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Grateful Dead 11/16/1970
Fillmore East, New York, NY
| Media | 2 cdr 2 discs |
| J-Card Comment | The following is quoted from deadlists.com: "Set II is the tape which has long circulated apparently as "Anderson Theater NYC 11/23/70." A variety of lines of arguement suggests that this tape in fact comes from Fillmore East 11/16/70 and was mastered by the same crew that did 5/15/70, 9/20/70 and other surreptitious masters from this venue. In the pause before Mama Tried Bobby sings The Frozen Logger off mic. The alternating harmonica and Organ on Truckin'>The Other One is Pigpen. Winwood sits in on organ on Hard to Handle, Big Railroad Blues, and Not Fade > Goin Down > Not Fade. The Harmonica on Big RR may not be Pigpen. It's probably Chris Wood who takes the first vocal on NFA and is audible intermittantly throughout the following sequence. Uncle John's Band has a brief prelude jam with Will Scarlet on Harmonica. UJB sounds like an encore; Bobby says, "See y'all later," afterwards. Nearly all of China Cat Sunflower is missing on the soundbaord tape. Recently Bill Gadsden, Jim Wise and Frank Venezia put an 85-minute 2 CD set into circulation containing a fresh transcript of a 1st Generation Reel of this soundboard, including a nearly complete version of Hard to Handle. Previously, this tape circulated for years in a completely scrambled sequence (created when it was transferred from Reels to cassette.) According to Cory Arnold on 11/14/70 at the Fillmore East after Frank Zappa's performance Grace Slick came on stage and announced on behalf of Bill Graham that the Dead and the Airplane would be playing a surprise concert at the Fillmore East on Monday Novemeber 16. On the 16th the very pregnant Slick was unable to make the gig but Hot Tuna substituted for the Airplane. This is why the show does not appear in ads and palybills etc. Richard Volet writes: "Fillmore East, fall 1970 (maybe earlier that year?) Before Mickey Hart left, after T.C. left. The concert was originally billed as Airplane/Dead, but the Airplane broke up right then (I believe that week) and Hot Tuna took their place. I remember Hot Tuna playing with Will Scarlet on Harmonica, but I think without Papa John Creach. The New Riders played next with Garcia on pedal steel. The Dead set included Dear Mr. Fantasy with Steve Winwood on vocal and organ and guest appearance also of T.C. on Dark Star/St. Stephen. This was with 2 drummers (I also rememeber Garcia playing a Gibson SG and weir playing a hollow body Guild.)"." So that's what Deadlists says. Deadbase ofcourse is all wrong. However there are some stark differences between what is mentioned above as Gadsen/Wise/Venezia's new 85 minute version -- and this version I will offer up. Total time of my 2 discs is over 100 minutes. China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider is COMPLETE. Hard To Handle is the more COMPLETE. and the order is AGAIN slightly different: DISC ONE: 1.Bill Graham Intro/ Casey Jones [5:01] 2.Me & My Uncle [4:37] 3.PA troubles - Honkey Tonk Women [2:49] 4./Friend of the Devil [2:14] 5.Cold Rain and Snow [6:04] 6.King Bee [7:17] 7.China Cat Sunflower> [5:46] 8.I Know You Rider [4:42] 9.Traffic enters the stage [2:07] 10.Hard to Handle [8:07] 11.Big Railroad Blues [5:35] 12.Not Fade Away> [9:18] 13.GDTRFB> [5:44] 14.Not Fade Away [2:52] total time 71:56 DISC TWO: 1.tuning/crowd [2:07] 2.Frozen Logger [1:26] 3.Mama Tried [3:37] 4.Truckin'> [5:47] 5.The Other One [11:24] 6.Uncle John's Band [7:04] total time: 31.21 |
| Trades Allowed | Yes |
| Ratings | Sound: A |
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· Last Updated May 23, 2023
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