Jeff Kaisershot's Collection
Return to Forever 02/01/1974
Atwood Hall, Clark University, Worcester, MA
| Source | WCUW radio station master reel (10", 3 3/4 ips) > (played on Revox reel deck into Tascam cassette deck) > my copy (Maxell XLII-S) > soundforge 4.5 (to WAV) > FLAC 6 |
| Media | FLAC |
| J-Card Comment | Return to Forever: "Clarke at Clark" Chick Corea- keyboards Bill Connors- guitar Stanley Clarke- bass Lenny White- drums Atwood Hall (I think, not absolutely sure of this) Clark University, Worcester, Mass. (I am sure of this and date) February 1, 1974 filename: rtf2174flac16 (Two Shows!) Total (unedited*) runtime 183:45* (see Note below) Source: 1st generation cassettes of master sbd reel (WCUW Worcester 91.3 FM radio, which was at this time Clark University's radio station before going independent/public radio, long before I worked there) performance quality: B+/A, some unusual songs for RTF recording quality: B/A It varies some, mostly due to some weird mixing. I have made some adjustments that has helped this considerably. It's a nice clean source recording, transferred from Revox reel to Tascam cassette deck with no dolby used. setlist: First show 88:51 1: band introductions 2: beyond the 7th galaxy 3: after the cosmic rain 4: theme to the mothership 5: children's song (Corea & Clarke duet) 6: space circus 7: captain senor mouse Second show 95:18 1: band introductions 2: captain senor mouse 3: bass folk song 4: sometime ago 5: encore: space circus lineage: WCUW radio station master reel (10", 3 3/4 ips) > (played on Revox reel deck into Tascam cassette deck) my copy (Maxell XLII-S) > soundforge 4.5 (to WAV) > FLAC 6 > torrent. Technically that makes this a 4 X 3 step torrent: 4 steps from master tape to you (most glasnostrd19 uploads will be 3 steps from me to you or minimum lineage, with a few exceptions like this one) and 3 steps for you: 1 download. 2: FLAC > WAV 3: burn CD (or to DAT). comments: This is a torrent I need to upload because it is probably the best recording there is of this show, and there was an incomplete version of this posted several months ago on dime. This is complete and all of it comes from cassettes made from the original radio master reel. This is not an FM broadcast version, but as some call it, a "pre-FM". I simply call it a "soundboard". I worked at WCUW radio from 1987-2001, and hosted a show there for over 10 years that featured recorded live in concert recordings, about 200 of which were my own. Most were bands few have likely heard of, but a few are definitely worth hearing and will be heard in time, along with several from my own archives. This was about 14 years before I was at WCUW, and one of WCUW's first concert broadcast recordings, in the original tape (some too on this but a little less so) I could hear parts where all of a sudden the drums would get loud and the bass and guitar go way in the background. RTF is probably a tough band to mix sound for, because they like to feature all their players at various times (as in this most interesting pair of shows.) so there's a tendency to turn up one guy and then turn him down after the solo. It takes a real pro sound(wo)man to do that right at a RTF concert, and this person seemed to have some trouble at times with it. But after some level adjusting in needed places I'm finally not only content, but anxious to upload this torrent because it sounds pretty nice now. When I first got it I didn't know jack about computers, never mind torrents. But I know enough now to sometimes turn what I once thought was so erratic a recording that I couldn't even stand listening to it, into one that although a bit tedious to fix, wasn't nearly as big a project, or as bad a result as I was expecting. The mixing did sound alot better in the second show, but I'm seeding this all together as one huge lump of Chick stew because it kinda sounds like one long show, and even on RTF standards the songs in this thing are really stretched out. They duplicate Cap. Senor Mouse and Space Circus, but also play a couple from Stanley's solo album "Children of Forever", Children's Song, and Sometime Ago which runs 45 minutes (just that 1 song) and a long version of Bass Folk Song. This was the only RTF w/Connors show I'd heard with any of those songs (until a few that popped up on dime recently). They must have been in a good mood this night, because they played over 3 hours and whoever recorded it managed to get it all uncut (without interruption). Not easy with this show! Good thing he (she?) was using a reel. It took some work to do that on cassettes but all the songs and dialogue are complete and in set sequence. The 1st week of February 1994 I rebroadcasted most of this show to celebrate its 20th anniversary, from the 1st year of WCUW broadcasting- most, because the reel hubs they used did not always stay on, and about halfway through the second set during the rebroadcast, the hub came off and the reel fell off the recorder. Not one of the shining moments in Glasnost Radio history. I also have a RTF 1st gen. aud from Boston 11/17/74 w/ Al DiMeola that will be seeded as a (sort of) companion to this, and be able to fit with this on 4 CD's if you so choose (a complete show of about 83 minutes, last 8 min. song on disc 2) and to be seeded a little later, a RTF w/ Connors FM from Boston 11/73 which isn't pristine quality, but quite listenable from 1st gen. cassette of a master over-the-air reel. I like to try to put initial (pre-encore) sets on 1 disc anytime I can with multidisc shows. Note: for CD burning purposes, I copied the last 2 seconds (exactly) of Track 2 Second show (Captain Senor Mouse, a quiet section) onto the start of track 3 (bass folk song) without a fadein (as I usually do to start a disc) in case someone wishes to save this to another media (DAT) and not lose any continuity. That's important to me. This is the ONLY editing done to this file (as in adding or removing anything). It's not real clear which show is 1st or second, but all tracks of each are complete and in correct order. If you burn to disc or save to DAT, either way it will sound fine without any editing, and I like to give people that option especially with this long a show. If burning to CD I suggest CD 1 here as 1st show tracks 1-6, CD 2, 2nd show tracks 3-5, disc 3 with 1st show first 2 tracks and encore of second show (track 7) If you have a DAT tape with 184 minutes on it, this would make a good use for it. I believe that Maxell 3 hr. DATS have a little extra time on them, not sure if it's enough for this unedited but there are some silent parts that could be edited out of this if you wish to put it on a 3 hour DAT. I thought about doing that but I know many RTF fans are completists (myself included) and none other that the Doctor- of Stud Muffin Productions fame, had been bugging me for the end of this show for years. Maybe that's why I haven't heard from him in about 10 years and have lost contact. (You'll be hearing some of his work soon!) I couldn't find it for awhile, but if he's out there he's gonna want to download this whole thing because he got an unremastered version of most of it. This sounds alot better than what he or anybody else got from me of this (only a few) and it's all here now, a first time seed from a 1st generation source of this entire show. It's not a "Glasnost Radio production" originally, as many of my torrents to come will be, but sort of, since I get to be the doctor! A bit of role-reversal is a good thing sometimes, and I really do like Return to Forever a LOT, especially with Al DiMeola. This edition was pretty good too, and this is the longest RTF show I've ever heard. Anyone who heard it on the radio knows WCUW radio quality was terrible, and has been for most of the station's history, due to a tube transmitter circa J.F. Kennedy/P.T.109. So I hope to share some of the best of Glasnost Radio archives, my own archives, and first up here, something from WCUW archives of pre-Glasnost Radio days. This is the only recording I recall ever broadcasting on the show from 1974, which was WCUW's first full year on the air, and recorded by WCUW staff. The next big thing they broadcasted (to my knowledge) was Oregon in 1975. That's coming very soon if not already up along with this. I'm very new to uploading so I will need to learn how many shows I can seed without overloading my computer or Dime's tracker. But the delay in my uploading has caused my upload reserves to swell up like a dam that's about to cave in. I hope to have something for almost every kind of taste, my ups will come from many different microphones/decks and sources, some will be sbd, some auds, some a mix of both. Glasnost Radio Productions liked to seek out better ways to record concerts and improve recordings, although no noise reduction is used for a glasnostrd19 upload (with only a few exceptions, unless it's before or after it passes through my hands.) A few may think I'm not fussy enough about sound quality, but most will think I'm too fussy or just fussy enough to make sure (eventually) that people will soon associate my artworkless and in some cases setlistless torrents as a mark of sound quality. I hope so. I don't know alot about computers, less about torrents (I'm learning), but audio is my specialty w/over 30 years at it. I seed other people's shows day and night and have maintained a share ratio close to 2.8 without the benefit of a single upload. That is all about to change, but I have to see how many I can seed before planning out what goes up when. 2007 also marks my 30th anniversary of recording shows. So it's about time I get to share some of that with you folks. I have a partial and less than optimal recording of possibly the greatest RTF concert of all time (also the only time I saw them- Boston Nov. 14, 1975) which will be seeded with a complete Nov. 74 RTF Boston show (soon). If anyone has this whole show do the RTF world a big favor and upload it please! (World premiere live performance of Romantic Warrior- amazing show!!!) It has made the list of glasnostrd19's Top 10 most wanted torrents of all time. Do not sell this recording. Trade freely and losslessly. 1 band introductions and tuning.flac:5d483988d9184344494b4c7ac1da08dc 2 beyond the seventh galaxy.flac:63e80e3c2690ad8b07ef66991bbd75bb 3 after the cosmic rain.flac:d070696b401ef31aeb946364d53df256 4 theme to the mothership.flac:06651e11bfda0eceea7d8a8d0f010367 5 children's song corea and clarke duet.flac:8465cb90ca8422f4c30b85f6331c3180 6 space circus.flac:353d364c2e2783f86c3994a4cd7cd272 7 captain senor mouse.flac:05fb079892ad250809957de70ee0a804 1 band introductions.flac:529e6d9667fb9a87a467f683dc7c3102 2 captain senor mouse.flac:f7502e7d3016ad78f8f0f53293797a60 3 bass folk song.flac:5c9fe8e5561f3ec183225bd0472247b8 4 sometime ago.flac:f70bc14f3821ce28f643dd1ad36515fb 5 encore space circus.flac:abab4c26161ad7b19ebd4e56defc58b0 |
| Trades Allowed | Yes |
| Ratings | Sound: A |
| Lists | Jazz/Fusion |
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