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Todd Rawfdawg's Collection

Grateful Dead   12/10/1969

Thelma Theater, Los Angeles, CA
Recording SHNID 8997
Media Shn   2 discs
Notes Stephen Stills...
SBD>MR>D>CD>EAC>SHN... (set 1)
AUD>MR>R>D>CD>EAC>SHN (set 2)
2nd source 1,2: MSR > D > CD except Cryptical Envelopment thru Cosmic Charlie: MSR > ? > D > CD
Tech Notes The tapes of the 10th come in two parts, both in excellent quality. Most of what we have from this date comes from a MSR > D containing nearly all of one set. The other tape, containing That's It For The Other One > Cosmic Charlie#, most often circulates labeled "12/10/69," as the second half of a cassette side, following the 12/11/69 Dark Star. (For more on this curious piece of tape, see DeadLists for 12/10/69.) Probably they played 2 sets on the 10th, as on the other nights, and probably That's It comes from the other set from the material on the MSR > D, but the evidence does not show which set is which and can be argued both ways.

helma Theater, Los Angeles, December 10, 11 & 12, 1969

Copies from the soundboard reels of these shows have circulated since the '70s, sometimes mislabled "Kaleidoscope Theater, LA," often with dates and sequences mixed up, usually in badly degraded sound quality. This set assembles complete copies of the 11th and the 12th in the best quality circulating. Except for the middle portion of the 11th, sound is excellent throughout; this inferior segment is listenable while leaving definite room for improvement if an upgrade shows up; we haven't been able to find one & don't want to delay further.

Many people gave help on the way to creating this set of CDs. Dave Greenberg did the final masters. Jack Warner was instrumental in providing the difficult composite for the 2nd disc of 12/11/69, which was first mastered by Scott Clugston. RB, KW, JN and HB also provided important assistance. Jim Powell instigated the project and writes these notes.
J-Card Comment dropout @ 0:11 of I Know You Rider
crackle @ 0:02 of Schoolgirl (sounds like equipment)
Lovelight cuts out after just over two minutes
Cosmic Charlie cuts out after just 50 seconds

The audience recording that supplies set 2 matches the timings of deadlists for what is speculated to be the 12-10-69 2nd set. It typically has circulated with the beginning of the 12-11 show (which has a nearly identical
ambience) under the name of either the 10th or 11th. This "That's It>Charlie" clearly does not match the SBD recording for these songs on 12-11-69. Therefore, the case is strong that 12-10-69 is an accurate date
for this portion, though the placement of it may be uncertain.
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SHNID 8997
(set 1: SBD> MR), (set 2: AUD> MR> R) > D> CD> EAC> SHN; edits (see notes), encoding, vined by J. Cotsman; with thanks to Andrew Clarke & Jack Warner
Owned by Todd Rawfdawg · Last Updated Jul 23, 2004