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Pink Floyd 09/13/1967

SHOWID 18578

Set I

Reaction In G (Stoned Alone)
Arnold Layne
Rust In A Million (One In A Million)
Matilda Mother
Scream Thy Last Scream
Astronomy Domine

Set II

 

Set III

 

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Michael D. (5/0) FLAC / View  
Joe (5/5) FLAC / 0 View   Lineage: 3rd Gen Cassette (Maxell XLII90)(Dolby On) > *Technics RS-B965-M (Dolby Off) >...
wes meyette (5/0) / View  
OldNeumanntapr (5/5) FLAC / 0 B View   Audience 'Stoned Alone' Bootleg
Notes: Includes Two Interviews.
OldNeumanntapr (5/5) FLAC / 0 B View   Audience; 3rd Gen Cassette (Maxell XLII90)(Dolby On) > *Technics RS-B965-M (Dolby Off) >...
Notes: (Vocals Practically Non Existant! Instruments are Clear. Microphone Possibly On-Stage And Not Aimed At PA?) ***Neonknight's Notes*** Grolsch kindly assisted us with the background to this recording. Copenhagen '67 was taped by a local musician called Carsten V. Michael K borrowed his master and made a copy. Marbal's cassette is likely in turn to have been copied from a 7.5 ips open reel transfer of Michael K's reel. There are no digital clones from the master or first gen Michael K reel but both still exist and remain in the hands of the owners. Perhaps we can look forward to one or both of them surfacing one day. A 3rd gen reel from the collection of the late Bernard White is often considered to be the best source for this concert. A friend has Bernard's reel and a 2001 transfer was sent to Eskimospy for use by Harvested in August 2005 for their 'What Syd Wants' release. The lineage for Bernard's reel went something like Carsten V > Michael K > UK collector > Bernard in the mid 1970s. Marbal's 3rd gen cassette has been transferred before by other collectors and they were not able to bring out the best in the recording. Marbal's copy, like his Rotterdam tape, is much cleaner with a tighter top end, and a fuller, more natural sound when compared to Bernard's. Listen carefully to Littlepieces' re-master and you you can distinguish each instrument and follow it if you care to. You will also hear subtle details such as the clink of a glass at 11.39 and Reaction in G being counted in, that you probably will have not noticed before. I believe it's also possible to appreciate the ambience of the venue. There is no getting away from the fact that the quality of this recording varies. However, Littlepieces has done an excellent job smoothing the imperfections out on the LPP version, particularly the many distortions that often contribute to burying the sound. This is a strong, loud performance by the band which was sometimes too much for Carsten V's recorder to cope with. Listen out for Matilda Mother, which reminds me of the Underground Scene Special UFO version, and a lively Scream Thy Last Scream. Thank you Marbal for entrusting me with your tape! ***Littlepieces' Mastering Notes for - Marbal's Copenhagen '67 Tape - Speed Corrected Only version*** All torrented unprocessed sources for this recording seem to share the same SQ and level fluctuations. The fact that the two lowest gen torrented sources, BWs 3rd gen reel and Marbal's 3rd gen cassette, have these as well, seems to indicate they are also on the 2nd gen sources they were copied from. The SQ is dark and the levels change for over a minute and slowly improves til about 1:20m when it becomes fairly stable until shortly after 12 minutes. From here a subtle increase in the hiss begins with a slowly decreasing upper half. This continues with some periods of improvement until eventually it becomes pronounced and by the time it reaches AD, the recording has become much weaker. The level changes also become more frequent beginning near the end of 'One in A Million'. There are many segments containing distortions and the frequency and intensity of these increase as the recording progresses. These give the impression that the recorder had his levels too high at times or his microphone was overwhelmed. As I said, all the mentioned artifacts are in all torrented unprocessed sources. This recording was marked as Dolby encoded but we transferred it without Dolby. Transferring a Dolby encoded recording without decoding the Dolby on playback is done often when playing the tape back on a different deck than that which it was encoded. The differences in decks often results in the decoding profile varying from the original encoding creating a poor result. Though this recording did not have its Dolby decoded, the expected boost in the higher frequencies are not near as apparent as usual. Marbal's cassette is a mono recording that was dubbed with a stereo deck into a two channel recording. Due to the previous transfers with less than perfect head alignment, it has a minor phase shift that is generally from 2-5 samples. The output level of each channel is similar most of the time and after about 12m I could a hear a bit more high end in the left channel. The speed was slow and was adjusted from 3.8% to 4.5%. *Other than adjusting the speed, no other changes were made to the 'Speed Corrected Only' version.* ***Littlepieces' Mastering Notes for - Marbal's Copenhagen '67 Tape - LPP version*** To accompany the 'Speed Corrected Only' version I have produced a LPP version in an attempt to provide a copy with less interference from artifacts, more detail, and more overall SQ continuity. After testing each channel by itself and with the channels manually aligned, I decided to use only the left channel for approximately the 1st minute and then retain both channels and manually align through Arnold Layne, and use only the left channel from that point until the end of the recording. Using only the left channel should provide a bit more detail as the recording quality lessens after AL by including more high end and improved phasing. The most time consuming part of this project was definitely the manual spectral cleaning. I removed many many of the usual tics, pops, bumps, etc, but more importantly I was able to remove most of the distortions that interfered with the recording. I utilized and varied moderate noise reduction settings working mostly above 8kHz - 10khZ and only slightly lower on some audience sections while being diligent not to encroach on the harmonics. I could have worked the entire spectrum and squeezed most of the hiss out, but I generally don't like what this does to the nature of the sound. As with Marbal's Rotterdam recording, I think more aggressive NR, among other things, would have eliminated a sense of the acoustics of the small venue they are playing in. As with Rotterdam, the EQ increases I used were applied to only the upper half which as the recording progresses and weakens is even more buried than Rotterdam. The quality of this source and transfer allowed me to use an increasingly aggressive EQ profile and lessen the degree of difference between the best and worst parts of the recording. The EQ curve was adjusted at times throughout the recording but mostly did not exceed ~8kHz. In addition I used a multiband enhancer to increase the bass output by reducing the base width (mono) in the lower portion of the low end and increasing the gain when it was left channel only. There were many micro drop outs/downs, mostly ~20ms, and I either removed a short piece of damage or was able to use the other channel to repair the damaged segment. A few minor ones still remain as does some very short pieces of tape damage. I selectively reduced some low frequency hums during the audience/tuning segments and near the end of AD. These seem to be present and prominent in all unprocessed sources. Hopefully these changes allow a listener to progress through the recording without becoming so distracted by the artifacts and SQ and level changes. I think this rendition of Reaction In G is the best I've heard........it really cooks after a few minutes. And I love the way One in A Million hits so hard..........I have a new appreciation for this track. Marbal Tape / Neonknight Transfer / Little Pieces Production (LPP) October 2012 **************************************************
Rick Martin (5/5) CDR / 1 A View   Clones of 1st generation tapes, digitally enhanced
Notes: 1/2 CD(11-13-67 on the other 1/2)
Rick Martin (5/5) Flac / 1 B View   "Starclub Psycho" (Black Panther BPCD 032)
Notes: "Starclub Psycho" (Black Panther BPCD 032)
Rick Martin (5/5) Flac / 1 A- View   Pink Floyd - "EL Source" Master Cassette* > DAT (x5) > flac frontend > flac
Notes: Pink Floyd - "EL Source"
Jack Warner (5/5) FLAC / 0 View   MAC>D>FLAC
Denis Charette (5/4.5) CDR / 1 C View   G Aud
Notes: "Stoned Alone" G Aud
rockcdr (5/5) CD / 1 View  
Notes: AUD
afterdinnermint (5/5) CDR / 1 B- View  
Notes: This has definately aged, but it's still very listenable, and it's a great taste of early Floyd. Vocals are a bit murky in the mix, but there aren't many of them. My copy has a pro-recorded version of Intestellar Overdrive as filler, but I'm not sure where it's from. There is a also a pretty cool interview with Syd Barrett, Nick Mason, and Roger Waters from Canadian radio that's definately from 1967, but I don't know the rest of the source. Quick fade out and back between tracks 1 and 2, but other than that, this one's solid.
Gary (5/4.3) CDR / 1 View 76731
Notes: Starclub Psycho
Jonathan (5/0) / 1 View 76731
Notes: Fileset in Archive.
Damian (5/5) CD / 2 View  
Notes: The Pink Floyd "What Syd Wants" Harvested Records (HRV CDR 032) Disc One 101 Reaction in G 6:36 102 Arnold Layne 4:06 103 One in a Million 6:25 104 Matilda Mother 6:46 105 Scream Thy Last Scream 5:32 106 Astronomy Domine 7:32 venue: Star Club, Copenhagen date: September 13, 1967 time: 36:57 source: Bernard's reels 107 Let's Roll Another One (rehearsal) date: January 20, 1967 time: 4:33 108 Matilda's Mother (Granada TV) date: January 27, 1967 time: 2:11 109 Interstellar Overdrive (Granada TV extended version with voiceover) date: January 27, 1967 time: 4:55 110 CBC Radio Interview (with Interstellar Overdrive) date: January ??, 1967 time: 10:40 side one total time: 59:17 Disc Two 201 Reaction in G 5:28 202 Pow R Toc H 12:04 203 Scream Thy Last Scream 4:36 204 Set The Controls 10:11 205 Interstellar Overdirve 13:55 venue: Oude-Ahoy Hallen, Rotterdam date: November 13, 1967 time: 46:14 source: Bernard's reels 206 See Emily Play (acetate #1) date: May 21, 1967 time: 2:45 207 Scream Thy Last Scream (Jones mono mix) date: August 7, 1967 time: 4:39 208 Vegetable Man (Jones mono mix) date: October 9, 10, or 11, 1967 time: 2:37 209 Roger Waters interview (Swedish radio) date: September 10, 1967 time: 2:54 source: ??? 210 Vegetable Man (1967 mix) date: October 9, 10, or 11, 1967 time: 2:53 211 Vegetable Man Jam (rehearsal) date: ??? time: 3:22 212 [In the] Beechwoods (backing track) date: October 20, 1967 time: 4:42 213 Green Onions (Tomorrow's World snippet) date: December 17, 1967 time: 0:32 214 Improvised Instrumental (Tomorrow's World snippet) date: December 17, 1967 time: 1:12 side two total time: 71:51 Dedicated in loving memory to Roger Barrett and Bernard White. Liner notes: "Bernard White died in 2005 and he is dearly missed by Pink Floyd fans from across the globe. Before the sad events that lead to his death, he was a true groundbreaker in terms of Pink Floyd collecting and knowledge. A contributor to various early books and articles about the band, with a happy knack of being in the company of the right people at the right moment, Bernard always had time to talk to fans who visited the various shops and market stalls that he worked in and owned in London. People would track Bernard down from all over the world and stand around for hours asking questions and seeking a chance to borrow his precious reels, tapes and memorabilia. Most requests were politely declined but there were a lucky few whom he assisted. The Copenhagen, Rotterdam, CBC and Irene Winsby recordings on these discs are from Bernard's reels. The two 1967 concerts were copied from a visitor to the UK capital in around 1975. Bernard knew Irene Winsby and CBC was from Capital Radio when they made the six-part Pink Floyd Story. For this Harvested release, the reels were transferred using the best equipment under recording studio-type conditions, then enhanced and edited. A little more Rotterdam was found separately and added in to give a longer recording than most will have. Much of Bernard's archive was disposed of hurriedly after his death, with very little regard to how it would be kept. Indeed, rumor has it that a lot of it was simply thrown away. The cream of the collection survived; however, and it's just possible that other items will reach the light of day." IP This is a release that the Harvested Team has been working on for a while and big kudos to MOB and Ed for all their great hard work. This release will appeal mostly to hardcore fans that want a glimpse into the only known concert recordings of The Pink Floyd with Syd Barrett circa 1967. Even though the source for this was the master reels, the sound quailty is still pretty bad most of the time, yet shines through during others. Syd's vocals are absent (or barely audible) most likely due to a bad microphone or mix, but luckily a good part of the performance is instrumental (Matilda Mother at the Copenhagen gig rocks!!!). We felt that since we had the original source for these important historic recordings (that have been widely available for years) that they deserved a tedious remastering process in an attempt to create a definitive version of these shows. Enjoy! RonToon, Ed and MOB
Joplin R. (5/3) CD-R / 1 View  
Notes: Earliest known Floyd concert.
Jeff Mitchell (5/0) / 0 View  
sonny gable (5/5) / 1 View  
Jon Pavuk (5/4.3) FLAC / 1 A C+ View   Audience>2nd gen>DAT [48khz]>SHN>CDWav>FLAC(level 6) via Traders Little Helper
Notes: 48K
Jon Pavuk (5/4.3) FLAC / 1 A B- View   "What Syd Wants">Harvested Records (HRV CDR 032)>Audience>Bernard's reels (Master) >...
Jordan Jacobs (5/3) Flac / 0 View   SBD
Notes: Master Cassette* > DAT (x5) > flac (may not be SBD)
Steve Blanchard (5/5) SHN / 1 View   unknown, believed to be sbd
Steve Blanchard (5/5) FLAC / 1 View   Master Cassette* > DAT (x5) > flac frontend > flac; "EL Source"
Rick Hanlon (5/5) cdr / 1 View  
Oleg (5/5) CDR / 1 View  
Oleg (5/5) CDR / 1 View  
clay pelland (5/5) / 1 View  
Rich Pucci (5/4.7) CDR Audio / 1 View  
Travis (5/3) cdr - SHN / 1 View  
travis (5/5) cdr / 1 a View  
Marcos Hassan (5/5) / 0 View 76731
Harry P (5/5) CDR / 1 B View  
Notes: From "Stone Rust" boot - Syd's guitar sounds very clear, most of the vocals cannot be heard well
Jon (5/0) CDR / 1 B View  
mashedpotatoes (5/5) CDR / 1 View  
Notes: on same disc as 11.13.67
RamblinRose (5/5) CD-R / 1 View   AUD
Notes: w/ Syd Barrett Filler: Berliner Sportpalast 6/5/71 - Cymbaline & Saucerful of Secrets, Astronomy Domine & Blues
Down4311 (5/3.8) CD / 1 View   ???-AUD
richard bryce (5/4) CD / 1 View  
Notes: inc Syd
Reverend Alex Lagusis (5/0) / 0 View 76731
kippenhok (5/0) cd / 1 C+ View  
Notes: HYGIY 3
Lloyd H (5/5) CDR / 1 A B- View   SBD
Notes: Syd Barret is here! Decent recording with very minor audience through mics, vocals are especially murky. Filler is 11/13/67 It's decent S.Q for age.
Nate (5/0) cdr / 1 B+ View  
Notes: still cool.
Kufat (5/5) SHN / 1 View   Best known
Notes: "Wonderful Wonderful Copenhagen"
Bonus (5/5) CDR / 1 B- View  
Billster (5/5) CDR / 1 B- View  
Steven Bosley (5/0) SHN 1 / 1 View  
Notes: Starclub Phyco
jeremy (5/0) shn / 1 View   no source
Notes: Starclub Phyco
DRS (5/0) Cd-r / 1 not View  
Notes: vocals are buried
Ryan41 (5/0) cdr / 1 View   clones of 1st generation tapes, digitally enhanced
Notes: w/ Syd Barret!
Joe Hardwick (5/0) CDR / 1 C View  
Notes: Title: "Starclub Phyco"
Joe Hardwick (5/0) MP3 / 1 View  
Notes: Title: "Stoned Alone"
Joe Hardwick (5/0) XL2 / 1 View  
Notes: Title: "Stoned Alone"
john (5/0) cd-r / 1 A+ B+ View  
Notes: the only good ROIO with Syd Barrett. It is great. Some great guitar work from Barrett. Evey floyd fan should have this
Robert Miller (5/5) CD-R / 1 A C View   FM broadcast
Notes: Copenhagen 1967 w/ Syd Barrett interview
Roger Postema (5/0) CDR / 1 C View   Starclub, Copenhagen
Notes: Glorified Bootleg
Jeremy (5/1) CDR / 1 B View   AUD (??) > CD > EAC > SHN
Notes: "Stoned Alone"
Jake (5/2.3) cdr / 1 View  
Mike Hanlin (5/5) shn / 0 A B View  
Ahreno (5/0) CDR / 1 View  
Chris M. (4/4) CDR / 1 View  
Notes: part of Syd Barrett comp.
John Cook (4/5) FLAC / 1 View   "EL Source" Master Cassette > DAT (x5) > flac frontend > flac
Notes: 171 MB, 37:44
Brad Foster (4/4.9) FLAC / 1 View   AUD
bugboyfjp12 (4/0) flac / 1 View  
Marinus van der Plaats (4/5) / 0 View  
Zionpower (4/0) / 0 View   from unprocessed master tape
Ed (4/5) FLAC / 1 B View  
Notes: Includes Interview.
groundhog (4/4.7) SHN / 1 View  
Notes: 192mb
LEE SPATZ (4/0) / 0 View  
krastian (4/0) / 0 View  
Keith Mageau (4/4.9) CDR / 1 B+ View   AUD>??>Silver CD>CDR
Notes: "Wonderful, Wonderful Copenhagen"
Michael Piper (4/4.8) CDR / 1 View   silver > wav > flac
Notes: this is a brief set (just over 33mins) with Syd; very poor sound quality, especially vocals; liberated boot: 'Starclub Phyco'
Matt D. (4/0) CDR / 1 B- View   RoIO: Starclub Psycho
Notes: 1. Stoned Again 2. Arnold Layne 3. Rush In A Million 4. Matilda Mother 5. Scream Thy Last Scream 6. Astronomy Domine Total Time: 34:40
a thomson (4/4.9) / 1 View  
Alan Morris (4/5) CDR / 1 View  
John and Becca Witcher (4/5) 1 / 1 View  
Notes: On same disc as wildwood boys63-02-23, janis69-06-25, hendrix apt. demos
Greg (4/5) CDR / 1 A A- View  
Keegan (4/0) CDR / 1 C+ View  
Adam Martiyan (4/4.7) CDR / 1 A A View  
JLP (4/0) cdr / 1 B+ View  
Notes: Stoned Alone
Dave (4/0) CD-R / 1 B+ A- View   FM Broadcast
Notes: w/ Syd Barrett Interview
Bill Bruno (4/4.6) shn / 1 aud View  
Notes: "Starclub Psycho"
Ray (4/0) SHN / 1 View  
chucktcounceller (4/0) CDR / 1 View   AUD
randall vw (4/5) / 1 View  
TTDaddy (3/5) FLAC / 1 View   AUD
Notes: Marbal's Copenhagen '67 Tape (2 versions---speed-corrected only & LPP remaster) Lineage: 3rd Gen Cassette (Maxell XLII90)(Dolby On) > *Technics RS-B965-M (Dolby Off) > Focusrite Saffire Pro 14 > Audacity 1.3 > Wav (24bit/96kHz) ======>> DAW (32bit float/96kHz) > Wav (16bit/44kHz) > CDWave (1.98) > FLAC (16bit/44kHz)
Richard Warren (3/5) flac24 / View  
Notes: AUD
Mike Pageau (3/0) SBD 15 / 1 View 76731
Mike Pageau (3/0) AUD 17 / 1 View  
Doug (3/0) Mp3 / 0 B View  
Notes: Scant vocals, but what the hell...I mean, its '67 Floyd!
Carl (3/0) CD-R / 1 View   Master Audience Cassette > DAT (x5) > flac frontend > flac
Chris Larson (3/5) flac / 1 B View 76731 Starclub Psycho
Notes: 190mb/36min, "Starclub Psycho" BPCD 032 Black Panther (md5 matches db source)
Chris Larson (3/5) flac / 1 B+ View   What Syd Wants - HRV
Notes: 151mb/36:56, Harvested version
timmy b (3/5) cdr / 1 View 76731
Robbie Kellman (3/5) shn / 1 View  
Dan Stone (3/0) CDR / 1 View   SHN
Notes: on disk with 11.13.67 Liberated boot "have you got it yet? vol 3"
Brad (3/5) shn / 1 View  
Joel (3/0) Audio / 1 View  
Joey (3/5) .shn / 1 View   Audience>1st gen tape > CDR > SHN
Notes: Pink Floyd The Star Club; Copenhagen, Denmark 1967-09-13 Source: Audience (G+) Lineage: 1st gen tape > CDR > SHN Taped by: Transferred by: Bootleg Title: Wonderful, Wonderful Copenhagen Digital Floyd Archives DFA-028 File Size: 182MB (SHN) Setlist: 1. Reaction In G Minor (6:19) 2. Arnold Layne (3:42) 3. Rust In A Million (5:21) 4. Mathilda Mother (6:27) 5. Scream They Last Scream (5:54) 6. Astronomy Domine (7:28) MD5/FLAC Fingerprints: 751872ce814df2bd5649976fc1cdf242 *pf67-09-13t01-1stgen.shn c715fd00198b81d01e6749108783d1bb *pf67-09-13t02-1stgen.shn b59a5dab2112143f0c7ee10b688db161 *pf67-09-13t03-1stgen.shn 92a361996935d6d35d452122bdfb2f1f *pf67-09-13t04-1stgen.shn 9bfcd3bd52190c9ee59f181120bf6220 *pf67-09-13t05-1stgen.shn 22125a7af39a4556f2324c474cb5374e *pf67-09-13t06-1stgen.shn Notes: This CD comes from the 1st gen tape. It is much better than some bootlegs that were released previously.
Eric Simpson (3/4.9) cd-r / 1 B View  
Notes: (aud/stage?) "Stoned Alone"
Joe the Troll (3/0) / 0 View  
Joe the Troll (3/0) / 0 View