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Phish 12/09/1994

SHOWID 3154

Set I

Sound Check: Higher Ground, Frankenstein, My Old Home Place, Funky Bitch Llama, Foam, Guyute, Sparkle > I Didn't Know, It's Ice > If I Could > Run Like an Antelope

Set II

Wilson > Poor Heart > Tweezer* > McGrupp, Julius > Big Ball Jam, Cracklin' Rosie, You Enjoy Myself > Suzie Greenberg, E: Blue and Lonesome**, Foreplay** > Long Time**, Tweezer Reprise

Set III


Comment

* With Slave to the Traffic Light jam. ** Acoustic

Collectors With This Show

User (active/rating) Media / # Show Sound Details DB Source User Source
Joe (5/5) FLAC / 0 View 32614
Jud (5/5) SHN / 3 A View 5468 FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 >Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10 @48kHz
Notes: SHNs Available
Keith Deshane (5/0) / 0 View 32614
Marc Ciccarelli (5/0) SHN / 0 View   1.DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) 2. DAUD/OTS Schoeps mk4(ORTF)
Mergz (5/5) CD / 3 A A- View   AUD
scott allyn (5/0) / 0 View  
Ifthir (5/0) .shn / 0 View 5468
Ryan Boone (5/5) shn / 2 View 5468
Notes: **dankseed** Source: Set I: DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10 @48kHz Master (from D10) used in below transfer Set IIpt: DAUD/OTS Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10 @48kHz Master (from D10) used in below transfer Set IIpt+E: DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(hat) > KC5 actives > CMC6 > Aerco > Marantz PMD-700 @48kHz Master (on Marantz PMD-700) > clone used in below transfer Conversion: R500 > Canare Coax > Digigram VXPocket/Sony Pixbook > Soundforge 5.0 (fade in/out/edits/48>44.1 at highest setting[4of4] with anti-alias filter) > CD Wave > mkwACT v0.97 (shn files have seek tables appended) **No DAE at all** Tapers: Eliot Byron (I, IIpt) and Steve B. (IIpt and Encore) Transferred and uploaded by Jim Raras via Dankseeds
PhishJY (5/5) CD / 3 View   AKG 460B/ck61 > custom pre-amp > Sony D7 (@ 48kHz)
Notes: 145
Sergio Sanchez (5/5) SHN / 2 View 5468 see info file
Notes: dankseed
Brandon Johnston (5/4.9) SHN,CDR / 3 View 5468 Daud: Schoeps mk4 (mix of sources)
Jeff Mitchell (5/0) / 0 View 32614
Jeff Mitchell (5/0) / 0 View 5468
Jon Pavuk (5/4.3) SHN / 2 A A View 5468 Set I: FOB Schoeps mk4 (ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e...
Yossarian Hunter (5/5) shn / 2 View 5468
Notes: thanx avz *dank*
GBL (5/0) / 0 View 5468
Ben Wirth (5/5) SHN / 0 View 5468
Ben Wirth (5/5) FLAC / 0 View 32614
neal r (5/4) / 3 View 5468
Notes: Flac Archive #109
tmwsiy46 (5/0) 5468 / 0 View 5468
Nathan (5/5) CD-R / 3 A A View 5468 Set I: DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5; Set IIpt: DAUD/OTS Schoeps...
Jason Westerfeld (5/4.9) shn / 2 View 5468 DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF)>KC5 actives>CMC5>Sonosax SX-M2>Apogee AD-500e>Sony D10...
Shane (5/0) SHN / 2 View 5468 FOB Schoeps - see notes
Notes: dankseed. Split FOB Schoeps source
Derick Andrade -- (5/5) / 0 View 5468 Plethora/Myriad/Mix/Compilation of sources
Derick Andrade -- (5/5) / 0 View 32614 AKG 460B/ck61 > custom pre-amp > Sony D7 (@ 48kHz)
Wayne and Sarah (5/4.6) CDR / 3 View  
Notes: source: AKG 460B/ck61 > custom pre-amp > Sony D7 (@ 48kHz)
Bill Conrad (5/5) SHN / 3 A View 5468
prn76 (5/4) CDR / 3 View 5468
Mandi (5/5) SHN / 2 View   DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 >Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e >...
David (5/5) flac16 / 2 View  
Notes: source: AKG 460B/ck61 > custom pre-amp > Sony D7 (@ 48kHz) transfer: Sony PCM-R500 > M-Audio MicroTrack > CF Card > usb > pc > WaveLab 5.01b (fades, resample to 44.1 kHz) > CD Wave v1.94.7 > FLAC (level 8)
Michael Polites (5/0) / 0 View   from bt.etree.org
chooglin (5/0) / 0 View 32614
Feel the Heat (5/5) SHN/CDR / 2 View 5468
Notes: MD5's match etree
Ian Sawers (5/4) CDR / 3 A A View   DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 >
Notes: DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10 @48kHz Master
Timothy Henningsen (5/5) SHN / 3 A A View 5468 Schoeps mk4
Hank Schandel (5/5) SHN / 2 View 5468 Source: various Schoeps mk4, see Tech Notes.
chris ventura (5/0) / 0 View  
phishinNYC (5/5) SHN / 2 View 5468 Set I: FOB Schoeps mk4 (ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e...
Notes: Phish 12/09/94 Mesa Amphitheatre - Mesa, Arizona Source: Set I: DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10 @48kHz Master (from D10) used in below transfer Set IIpt: DAUD/OTS Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10 @48kHz Master (from D10) used in below transfer Set IIpt+E: DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(hat) > KC5 actives > CMC6 > Aerco > Marantz PMD-700 @48kHz Master (on Marantz PMD-700) > clone used in below transfer Conversion: R500 > Canare Coax > Digigram VXPocket/Sony Pixbook > Soundforge 5.0 (fade in/out/edits/48>44.1 at highest setting[4of4] with anti-alias filter) > CD Wave > mkwACT v0.97 (shn files have seek tables appended) **No DAE at all** Detailed info: Set I FOB was done on a stand, during the set break the rig was moved to the OTS and the first part of set II is from the OTS. This recording was patched with the set IIpt+E source (mk4/hat) as the Apogee battery died during YEM. See below for info on the patching. Minor Edits: Fades in/out beg/end of sets--5 sec in all cases Nasty analog/FOB noise on master removed in Guyute (d1t04~01:13) using 'channel swap crossfade' with a total duration of 10 sec where the glitch occurs at 5 sec; mix w/ both crossing at 0.0db. Missing part of second set/encore patched before YEM--in crowd noise. The patch was done using a crossfade with overlapping duration of 8.533s with the source going from -infdb to 0db and the destination going from 0db to -infdb. Tapers: Eliot Byron (I, IIpt) and Steve B. (IIpt and Encore) Huge thanks to Eliot who supplied the DATs for this transfer! Transferred and uploaded by Jim Raras via Dankseeds Please contact me with questions etc. There are also 48k shn's of this seed for archival. ____________________________________________________________________________ *Dankseed Certification received 01-09-24* and posted at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dankseeds/files/ph94-12-09/ Listening test performed by *5* danksters positive criteria met: Tracking- OK Seamless and complete- OK Lineage listed- OK negative criteria met: DAE- NO Resampled- NO Diginoise- NO ___________________________________________________________________________ Disc 1 / Set I 01:04:18 01. Intro/Crowd 00:29 02. Llama 03:56 03. Foam 09:57 04. Guyute 10:08 05. Sparkle > 03:50 06. I Didn't Know 03:47 07. It's Ice 09:24 08. If I Could 07:43 09. Run Like an Antelope 15:04 Disc 2 / Set II 00:58:46 01. Intro/Crowd 00:27 02. Wilson > 04:47 03. Poor Heart > 02:15 04. Tweezer 26:09 05. McGrupp > 09:24 06. Julius 07:10 07. Big Ball Jam > 02:29 08. HYHU > 01:53 09. Cracklin' Rosie > 02:58 10. HYHU 01:14 Disc 3 / Encore 00:44:13 01. You Enjoy Myself 21:21 02. Suzy Greenberg 05:54 03. Encore Break/Crowd 02:49 04. I'm Blue I'm Lonesome 02:57 05. Foreplay/Long Time 07:18 06. Tweezer Reprise 03:54 Setlist from "The Phish Companion" http://www.phish.net/mockingbird
Erin (5/5) CDR/SHN / 3 View 5468 Schoeps mk4
andrew (5/0) CD / 3 View  
Mike Woellert (5/4.6) CD-R / 3 View   Schoeps cmc5/mk4 > KC5 > SX-M2 > AD-500e > D10
Notes: Dank Seed...read the info file for full info
Matthew Barney (5/0) cdr / 3 View  
Chad McDaniels (5/0) / 2 View 5468
Notes: dankseed
Mitch Jareo (5/5) SHN / 3 View 5468
Notes: Dankseed.
Set I: FOB Schoeps CMC5/MK4 > SX-M2 > AD-500e > D10
Set IIpt: Schoeps CMC5/MK4 > SX-M2 > AD-500e > D10
Set IIpt+E: FOB Schoeps CMC6/MK4 > Aerco > PMD-700
Joe (5/0) SHN / 3 View   Aud
Notes: DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 >
ben samuels (5/5) SHN / 3 View 5468
Kyle (5/5) SHN / 2 A+ A+ View 5468
Paul R. Giunta (5/5) SHN / 2 A View 5468 DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 >
Paul R. Giunta (5/5) SHN / 2 A View 5468 DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 >
Furious George (5/4.9) SHN / 2 View 5468 DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 >Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e >...
Notes: Dankseed Certified DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 >Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10 @48kHz: DAUD/OTS Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 >Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10 @48kHz
Kevin Sigafoos (5/1.5) shn / 2 View 5468
erplander (5/0) shn / 2 View 5468 Schoeps mk4 (FOB in first set)
Aaron (5/4.8) SHN / 2 View 5468
Notes: FOB Schoeps(mostly)
Runaway Jay (5/5) SHN/CDR / 3 View 5468
Notes: Set I: FOB Schoeps mk4 (ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10 @48kHz; Set IIpt: Schoeps mk4 (ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10 @48kHz (OTS); Set IIpt+E: FOB Schoeps mk4 (hat) > KC5 actives > CMC6 > Aerco > Marantz PMD-700 @48kHz; R500 > Canare Coax > Digigram VXPocket/Sony Pixbook > Soundforge 5.0 (48>44.1kHz) > CDWav > mkwACT v0.97 > SHNv3
ian fenty (5/0) shn / 0 View 5468
ian fenty (5/0) shn / 3 View 5468
arnie (5/5) shn / 3 View 5468
Notes: *Dankseed*
Adam (5/0) SHN / 3 A View 5468
Notes: dankseed
Adam (5/0) SHN / 3 View   Unknown
Dr. VanNostrin (5/5) SHN/CDR / 2 View 5468
Notes: md5 has been run
Marc Biller (5/0) SHN / 2 View 5468 multiple sources, ask me if you need to know
Ti-jean (5/3) / 0 View 5468
nemski (5/5) SHN / 2 View 5468 FOB Schoeps mk4 (ORTF) & FOB Schoeps mk4 (hat)
The Solar Garlic (5/5) SHN / 2 A- View 5468 Multiple - See SHN Link
John Allen (5/5) SHN / 2 A+ View 5468 Schoeps mk4(ORTF) ... (see tech notes
Notes: *Dankseed Certification received 01-09-24*
pheecaspian (5/0) / 0 View   Set I: DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 DAUD/OTS Schoeps mk4(ORTF) >...
Brad Copeland (5/0) SHN / 2 View 5468
Matt Krakowski (5/0) cd-r / 3 View  
Notes: dankseed DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10 @48kHz Master (from D10)
Rich P. (5/5) shn / 2 View 5468
Notes: dankseed
badhat (5/1) shn / 2 View   DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 >Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e >...
Notes: dank
Kevin O'Hagen (5/0) / 2 View  
Jon Dewsbury (5/5) shn / 2 View  
Todd Langevin (5/5) SHN / 2 View 5468 See Notes
Notes: Certified Dank!!!
Mike Fischer (5/4) shn / 2 View 5468
Notes: FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10
larzwassel (5/0) SHN / 2 View 5468
B (5/4.7) SHN / 2 A View 5468
Notes: *dankseed*
andy (5/3) shn / 2 View 5468
thomas bern (5/5) SHN / 3 View  
Michael M. (5/0) / 0 A+ View 5468
Krismarn (5/0) SHN/FLAC / 2 View  
openpath (4/5) SHN / 0 View 5468 shn ; Schoeps mk4 (ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10 @48kHz
openpath (4/5) FLAC / 0 View 32614 AKG 460B/ck61 > custom pre-amp > Sony D7 (@ 48kHz)
Brad Foster (4/4.9) FLAC / 2 View   AKG 460B/ck61 > custom pre-amp > Sony D7
Brad Foster (4/4.9) SHN / 2 View   (s1) (FOB) Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > D10...
Joseph Lawson (4/5) SHN / 2 View 5468 Check TXT file, 3 diff sources
shakedown80 (4/4) / 0 View 5468
shakedown80 (4/4) / 0 View 32614
Jeff (4/0) FLAC / 3 View  
The Iguana (4/0) DataDVD / 1 View 5468 Set I: DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) Set IIpt: DAUD/OTS Schoeps mk4(ORTF) Set IIpt+E: DAUD/FOB...
Notes: ph1994-12-09.5468.shnf
Thom Mann (4/1) CDR / 3 View 32614
KenWah (4/5) AUD/SHN / 3 View  
Notes: I WAS THERE!!!! Multi-source "Dank Seed"
Friedemann Rothfuchs (4/5) SHN / 2 DAN View   Set I: DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF); Set IIpt: DAUD/OTS Schoeps mk4(ORTF)
Notes: Phish 12/09/94 Mesa Amphitheatre - Mesa, Arizona Source: Set I: DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10 @48kHz Master (from D10) used in below transfer Set IIpt: DAUD/OTS Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10 @48kHz Master (from D10) used in below transfer Set IIpt+E: DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(hat) > KC5 actives > CMC6 > Aerco > Marantz PMD-700 @48kHz Master (on Marantz PMD-700) > clone used in below transfer Conversion: R500 > Canare Coax > Digigram VXPocket/Sony Pixbook > Soundforge 5.0 (fade in/out/edits/48>44.1 at highest setting[4of4] with anti-alias filter) > CD Wave > mkwACT v0.97 (shn files have seek tables appended) **No DAE at all** Detailed info: Set I FOB was done on a stand, during the set break the rig was moved to the OTS and the first part of set II is from the OTS. This recording was patched with the set IIpt+E source (mk4/hat) as the Apogee battery died during YEM. See below for info on the patching. Minor Edits: Fades in/out beg/end of sets--5 sec in all cases Nasty analog/FOB noise on master removed in Guyute (d1t04~01:13) using 'channel swap crossfade' with a total duration of 10 sec where the glitch occurs at 5 sec; mix w/ both crossing at 0.0db. Missing part of second set/encore patched before YEM--in crowd noise. The patch was done using a crossfade with overlapping duration of 8.533s with the source going from -infdb to 0db and the destination going from 0db to -infdb. Tapers: Eliot Byron (I, IIpt) and Steve B. (IIpt and Encore) Huge thanks to Eliot who supplied the DATs for this transfer! Transferred and uploaded by Jim Raras <jraras@yahoo.com> via Dankseeds Please contact me with questions etc. There are also 48k shn's of this seed for archival. ____________________________________________________________________________ *Dankseed Certification received 01-09-24* and posted at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dankseeds/files/ph94-12-09/ Listening test performed by *5* danksters positive criteria met: Tracking- OK Seamless and complete- OK Lineage listed- OK negative criteria met: DAE- NO Resampled- NO Diginoise- NO ___________________________________________________________________________ Disc 1 / Set I 01:04:18 01. Intro/Crowd 00:29 02. Llama 03:56 03. Foam 09:57 04. Guyute 10:08 05. Sparkle > 03:50 06. I Didn't Know 03:47 07. It's Ice 09:24 08. If I Could 07:43 09. Run Like an Antelope 15:04 Disc 2 / Set II 00:58:46 01. Intro/Crowd 00:27 02. Wilson > 04:47 03. Poor Heart > 02:15 04. Tweezer 26:09 05. McGrupp > 09:24 06. Julius 07:10 07. Big Ball Jam > 02:29 08. HYHU > 01:53 09. Cracklin' Rosie > 02:58 10. HYHU 01:14 Disc 3 / Encore 00:44:13 01. You Enjoy Myself 21:21 02. Suzy Greenberg 05:54 03. Encore Break/Crowd 02:49 04. I'm Blue I'm Lonesome 02:57 05. Foreplay/Long Time 07:18 06. Tweezer Reprise 03:54 Setlist from "The Phish Companion" http://www.phish.net/mockingbird 03:54 Setlist from "The Phish Companion" http://www.phish.net/mockingbird d
bruce lynd (4/0) data / 2 View 32614 AKG 460B/ck61 > custom pre-amp > Sony D7 (@ 48kHz)
Notes: didn't know, mcgrupp, rosie
Brian (4/0) SHN / 2 A A View   DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony...
Notes: DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10 @48kHz
Levi Hunt (4/5) cdr / 3 A A View   FOB Schoeps MK4(ORTF) > KC5 Actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10
Notes: etree
John Riordan (4/2) SHN / 3 A A View 5468 Set I, IIpart: DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 >...
Notes: (dankseed)
Dylan (4/0) CDR / 3 View 5468 (FOB) Schoeps mk4
David Malone (4/5) CDR / 3 View 5468
Notes: My first show
Scott (4/5) CD / 3 View   Set I: FOB Schoeps mk4 (ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e...
Notes: Phish 12/09/94 Mesa Amphitheatre - Mesa, Arizona Source: Set I: DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10 @48kHz Master (from D10) used in below transfer Set IIpt: DAUD/OTS Schoeps mk4(ORTF) > KC5 actives > CMC5 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Apogee AD-500e > Sony D10 @48kHz Master (from D10) used in below transfer Set IIpt+E: DAUD/FOB Schoeps mk4(hat) > KC5 actives > CMC6 > Aerco > Marantz PMD-700 @48kHz Master (on Marantz PMD-700) > clone used in below transfer Conversion: R500 > Canare Coax > Digigram VXPocket/Sony Pixbook > Soundforge 5.0 (fade in/out/edits/48>44.1 at highest setting[4of4] with anti-alias filter) > CD Wave > mkwACT v0.97 (shn files have seek tables appended) **No DAE at all** Detailed info: Set I FOB was done on a stand, during the set break the rig was moved to the OTS and the first part of set II is from the OTS. This recording was patched with the set IIpt+E source (mk4/hat) as the Apogee battery died during YEM. See below for info on the patching. Minor Edits: Fades in/out beg/end of sets--5 sec in all cases Nasty analog/FOB noise on master removed in Guyute (d1t04~01:13) using 'channel swap crossfade' with a total duration of 10 sec where the glitch occurs at 5 sec; mix w/ both crossing at 0.0db. Missing part of second set/encore patched before YEM--in crowd noise. The patch was done using a crossfade with overlapping duration of 8.533s with the source going from -infdb to 0db and the destination going from 0db to -infdb. Tapers: Eliot Byron (I, IIpt) and Steve B. (IIpt and Encore) Huge thanks to Eliot who supplied the DATs for this transfer! Transferred and uploaded by Jim Raras via Dankseeds Please contact me with questions etc. There are also 48k shn's of this seed for archival. ____________________________________________________________________________ *Dankseed Certification received 01-09-24* and posted at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dankseeds/files/ph94-12-09/ Listening test performed by *5* danksters positive criteria met: Tracking- OK Seamless and complete- OK Lineage listed- OK negative criteria met: DAE- NO Resampled- NO Diginoise- NO ___________________________________________________________________________ Disc 1 / Set I 01:04:18 01. Intro/Crowd 00:29 02. Llama 03:56 03. Foam 09:57 04. Guyute 10:08 05. Sparkle > 03:50 06. I Didn't Know 03:47 07. It's Ice 09:24 08. If I Could 07:43 09. Run Like an Antelope 15:04 Disc 2 / Set II 00:58:46 01. Intro/Crowd 00:27 02. Wilson > 04:47 03. Poor Heart > 02:15 04. Tweezer 26:09 05. McGrupp > 09:24 06. Julius 07:10 07. Big Ball Jam > 02:29 08. HYHU > 01:53 09. Cracklin' Rosie > 02:58 10. HYHU 01:14 Disc 3 / Encore 00:44:13 01. You Enjoy Myself 21:21 02. Suzy Greenberg 05:54 03. Encore Break/Crowd 02:49 04. I'm Blue I'm Lonesome 02:57 05. Foreplay/Long Time 07:18 06. Tweezer Reprise 03:54 Setlist from "The Phish Companion" http://www.phish.net/mockingbird
Chris Gallagher (4/5) CDR / 3 View