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Frank Zappa 10/31/1978

SHOWID 76859

Set I

Ancient Armaments, Dancin' Fool, Easy Meat, Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me?, Keep It Greasey, The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing, City Of Tiny Lights, Pound For A Brown, Thirteen (* guitar solo on YCDTOSA #6), Ms. X (story told by Warren Cucurullo), Nancy's Fatnasy

Set II

Dinah-Moe Humm, Go Cry On Somebody Else's Shoulder/Little Rubber Girl (YCDTOSA #4), Idiot Bastard Son, Bobby Brown, Conehead*, Suicide Chump, Little House I Used To Live In*, Watermelon In Easter Hay*, Stinkfoot

Set III

Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance (YCDTOSA #6), Peaches En Regalia, Strictly Genteel, Sofa, Packard Goose*, Magic Fingers, Yellow Snow Suite, Camarillo Brillo, Muffin Man, Black Napkins/Deathless Horsie*


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* w/Shankar

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User (active/rating) Media / # Show Sound Details DB Source User Source
wes meyette (5/0) / View  
Joe (5/5) FLAC / 0 View   220 min, Aud, A-, unknown gen (1st or 2nd) from cdr
CJ (5/4.7) CDR / 3 View  
Jack Warner (5/5) FLAC / 0 View   MAC>FLAC
Marty (5/4.9) CDR / 3 View  
Notes: 3cdr/1flac
Dwayne (5/5) FLAC / 0 View   Audience Recording
cucamonga (5/0) / 3 A A View  
Jon Pavuk (5/4.3) FLAC / 2 A A- View   Audience
Notes: I believe this is the whole show. I recently acquired this in a trade from a Zappa collector who claimed this was a new source. To me, it sounds like the balcony recording (B+) is patched in some places in the show while the rest of it is a floor recording (A-/A). Both sources are from the master tapes, so I'm told. This is the holy grail of Zappa shows, and I hope you folks enjoy it. For more information, check out Jon Naurin's page on the Halloween 1978 run. Here's the link: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/home...stew/bigone.htm (although he says the show lasted 3 hrs and 45 min, I lean towards believing it was actually 2 hrs 45 min since the entire show fits on three 80 minute CDRs with close to no cuts. Also, this is all the info I have on this show and source...so please, no on email me or pm me and ask me all sorts of questions about source and whatnot. I can give only opinions on song versions and sound quality. Enjoy! Mike (kcdiscipline) April 23, 2004 PS--to all of those who have waited so long (Colston, thanks for nagging the crap outta me to get this seeded!), sorry for the wait. It's tough to do this
Mike Zielinski (5/4.9) CDR / 3 A A View   Aud
Notes: Lineage: Main source pre-fl/ZP: Aud (unknown equipment) > low gen CrO2 cassettes > wav (CEP, tracked, speed corrected) > FLAC (Frontend with SBE correction) + Alt. source pre-fl/ZP: Aud (unknown equipment) > ? > FLAC (one big mystery!) + ZP extra lineage: > .FLAC Frontend (decoded to .WAV) > WavMerge (all tracks merged) > Wavelab (speed correction per flambay) > GoldWave (patches edited in) > CDWav (tracks split, saved as .FLAC level 8 ) > you, the listener
Alan (Slydell) (5/5) SHN / 3 View   AUD
molexn (5/5) audio cdr / 3 View  
Adam Fox (5/5) CD-R / 3 View   AUD
Notes: 1978-10-31 Palladium - New York, NY
Mark (5/4.9) CDR / 3 B View  
Rich Pucci (5/4.7) CDR Audio / 3 View  
Notes: Early & Late Shows
RamblinRose (5/5) / 3 View   AUD
Notes: Click on date for details.
Corey (5/4.1) cdr / 3 A+ B- View  
Notes: 31-Oct 1978, Palladium, NYC 219 min, Aud, B+ w/Shankar (*) "The Big One" Lineage: Aud/unknown equipment>low gen CrO2 cassettes>wav (CEP, tracked, speed corrected)>flac (Frontend with SBE correction) (1.41 GB) (Pioneer W606DR deck/SB Live! Gold Pro soundcard) Taped by: n/a Transferred by: BengoFury The sound improves a lot after the first 6 mins These tapes are believed to be 2nd gen, traded from SH in the late 80's, thanks to Lolo for giving them to me! Setlist: (suggested splitting for CD burning: 1-11, 12-20, 21-30) 01 Ancient Armaments 02 Dancin' Fool 03 Easy Meat 04 Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me? 05 Keep It Greasey 06 The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing 07 City Of Tiny Lights 08 A Pound For A Brown (TF, cuts, 2:56) 09 Thirteen (* guitar solo on YCDTOSA #6) 10 Ms. X (story told by Warren Cucurullo) 11 fantasy from a girl from the audience 12 Dinah-Moe Humm 13 Go Cry On Somebody Else's Shoulder/Little Rubber Girl (YCDTOSA #4) (TF, cut end, no music missing) 14 Idiot Bastard Son 15 Bobby Brown 16 Conehead* 17 Suicide Chump 18 Little House I Used To Live In* (TF, cut end, no music missing) 19 Watermelon In Easter Hay* 20 Stinkfoot 21 Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance* (YCDTOSA #6) 22 Peaches En Regalia 23 Strictly Genteel 24 Sofa 25 Packard Goose* (cut @ 4:23, tape flip) 26 Magic Fingers 27 Yellow Snow Suite 28 Camarillo Brillo 29 Muffin Man 30 Black Napkins/Deathless Horsie* (cuts @ 5:46, at the start of DH) == Frank Zappa's Band July 1978 - April 1979 == FZ, Ike Willis (out between Oct 14-31), Patrick O'Hearn (October 13-31), Denny Walley, Warren Cucurullo (Halloween guest and spring tour member), L. Shankar (Berlin + Halloween guest), Arthur Barrow, Vinnie Colaiuta, Ed Mann, Tommy Mars, Peter Wolf. Song properties of this tour: Yellow Snow Suite = Don't Eat The Yellow Snow, Nanook Rubs It, St. Alphonzo's Pancake Breakfast, Rollo
phoompapa (5/5) / 3 View  
Craig Behymer (5/5) flac / 2 A B+ View   Aud
Peter (5/0) cda / 3 View  
Brad Foster (4/4.9) FLAC / 2 View   AUD
Brad Foster (4/4.9) FLAC / 2 View   Sony ECM-23F > Sony TC 152-SD > MC
ART (4/5) CDR / 3 A+ B+ View  
Notes: one of best Zappa shows ever. Features guests L. Shankar on electric violin. FZ guitar sound is remarkable and there are loads of solos.
shakedown80 (4/4) / 0 View  
Notes: Aud (unknown equipment) > low gen CrO2 cassettes > wav (CEP, tracked, speed corrected) > FLAC (Frontend with SBE correction) Alt. source pre-fl/ZP: Aud (unknown equipment) > ? > FLAC (one big mystery!) ZP extra lineage: > .FLAC Frontend (decoded to .WAV) > WavMerge (all tracks merged) > Wavelab (speed correction per flambay) > GoldWave (patches edited in) > CDWav (tracks split, saved as .FLAC level 8 )
groundhog (4/4.7) FLAC / 3 View   MASTER CASSETTE > CASSETTE > AUDIGY 2 48 KHZ 24 BIT > SOUND FORGE (WAVES X-NOISE ,BBE,...
Notes: 1.43gb
Bohac (4/0) flac / 0 View  
Matthew Katz (4/5) CD-R / 2 View  
zowie (3/5) cd / 3 a- View   aud
TTDaddy (3/5) FLAC / 2 View   AUD
Notes: Converts to 3 audio discs
Richard Warren (3/5) flac / View  
Ken Dryden (3/5) CDRs / 3 View   Audience recording
Carl (3/0) CD-R / 3 View   Unknown audience rec.
Derek (3/5) CDR / 3 A A- View   AUD
Charlie Kidder (3/5) SHN / 3 View  
Matt (3/4.8) cdr / 3 View  
Notes: FZ, Denny Walley, Warren Cucurullo, L. Shankar (Halloween guest), Arthur Barrow, Patrick O'Hearn, Vinnie Colaiuta, Ed Mann, Tommy Mars, Peter Wolf.
PrideofCucamonga (3/0) FLAC / 1 View  
monkeyfish (3/5) cdr / 3 View  
Mike (3/0) CDR / 3 A- View   Master clone (mix of 3 sources)
Wayne Stielau (3/5) CDR / 3 View   Aud Floor + Balcony
Notes: FLAC - 2 Discs
Wm. McLain Causey (3/0) CD-R / 5 C View   AUD
King of the Gypsies (2/5) / View  
OBIE (2/5) FLAC / 1 View  
Art (2/0) FLAC / 1 View   Audience Cassette
Notes: [225 min]
Eric H. (2/5) CDR / 3 View  
Notes: Fix the TAO
Andrew Long (2/4.9) flac16 / 3 View   various - best avail. as of 10/2013 (info file in notes)
Notes: Frank Zappa The Palladium New York City, NY 1978 10 31 - "The Big One" ~~ Source #2: from J.S. Master tape (new DR-1 transfer) ~~ Main body of this seed: taped and contributed by J.S. and transferred by doctorzap (new Nakamichi DR-1 transfer !!) includes patches from Source #1 copy: Hecht-Drew51 1st gen, plus final Deathless Horsie portion from Mystery source (of unknown/undocumented origin), and new "Pound For A Brown" fill from source #3 by fzmoi69 Considerable upgrade (A/A- sound !!) over previously seeded Shoebox version of the same J.S. Master tape (Sony transfer: A-/B+): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=17052 Current FZshows entry: 1978 10 31 - Palladium, New York, NY 230 min, Aud, B+ The Big One. With L. Shankar (*) and Warren Cucurullo (**). Ancient Armaments [H, part on TFZAABB], Dancin' Fool [H], Easy Meat, Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me?, Keep It Greasey, The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing, City Of Tiny Lights, A Pound For A Brown, Thirteen* [guitar solo on YCDTOSA6], Ms. X story**, fantasy from a girl from the audience, Dinah-Moe Humm, Go Cry On Somebody Else's Shoulder / Little Rubber Girl [YCDTOSA4], The Idiot Bastard Son, Bobby Brown, Conehead*, Suicide Chump, Little House I Used To Live In* [incl. Zeets, H], Watermelon In Easter Hay*, Stinkfoot [H], Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance* [YCDTOSA6], Peaches En Regalia, Strictly Genteel, Sofa, Packard Goose*, Magic Fingers [parts on H], Yellow Snow Suite [incl. Don't Eat The Yellow Snow, H], Camarillo Brillo, Muffin Man, Black Napkins [H], The Deathless Horsie* [H] This version: 231.57 min, AUD MC, A/A- (patches: A-/B+ to B/B-) Recording gear Info: Sony TC 152-SD deck / Sony ECM-23F Lineage : Master Tapes Maxell UDXLII > Nakamichi DR-1 > Realtek HDAudio pentium i7 > Soundforge 10 Pro Highest quality setting Izotope 64 bit src downsampling / MBIT+dither> TLH flac > wav > Soundforge 10: speed correction, phase offset adjustments, minor volume level adjustments, tracking, patching in fils > flac TLH lvl8 w/SBA (1,42 GB) taped by: J.S. transferred by: doctorzap edited by: flambay Fills: 1) from snopes-Drew51 1st gen (Source #1: ~225 min, AUD 1st, A-/B+) to nearly all tape flip cuts in J.S. MC Samples: http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=17175 Source: First generation audience recording Lineage: Maxell XLII Epitaxial Cassettes(1st gen) > Nakamichi CR-7A cassette deck > Tascam US-122L > Sound Forge 9.0 (record/edits/resample) > FLAC Level 8 > Soundforge 0 Pro: speed correction, extracting patches, merging with main source Taped By: Unknown? (Probably Hank) Aquired from: The Steve Hecht collection Transferred By: Drew51 Edited By: Drew51, flambay 2) final Deathless Horsie portion (Track 35) of unknown 'mystery' source origin (unknown gen AUD, EQed, B/B-) included from current FZ Shows seed (Source #1 version) 1978 10 31 New York NY 230.28 AUD (BengoFury-KCDiscipline-fl-ZP) http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11242 "Lineage": Aud (unknown equipment) > ? > FLAC (one big mystery!) > Soundforge 10: extracting patch & merging with main source taped by: unknown transferred by: unknown edited by: Zappa Penguin, flambay 3) Source #3 Fill lineage for "new" Pound For A Brown" patch: fzmoi69 Master tape > 1st gen backup copy > Nakamichi DR-1 > Realtek HDAudio pentium i7 > Soundforge 10 Pro Highest quality setting Izotope 64 bit src downsampling / MBIT+dither> TLH flac > wav > Soundforge 10: extracting patch, adjust volume level, merging with J.S.Master source material > TLH: SB aligned with rest of Source #2 seed > flac TLH lvl8 taped by: fzmoi69 transferred by: doctorzap patch edited by: flambay Band: Frank Zappa - guitar, vocals Patrick O'Hearn - bass, vocals Arthur Barrow - bass, vocals Denny Walley - slide guitar, vocals Vinnie Colaiuta - drums, seal calls Ed Mann - percussion Tommy Mars - keyboards, vocals Peter Wolf - keyboards Guests: L. Shankar* - electric violin Warren Cucurullo ** - monologue (Track 12) Nancy - monologue (Track 13) Setlist: 01 Crowd, Tuning (incl. Läther Grout, Revenge From The Knick Knack People, from PA) [1:54] 02 Ancient Armaments [part on H, part on TFZAABB] [5:10] 03 "The Big One" Intro [H] [3:46] 04 Dancin' Fool [H] [4:36] 05 Easy Meat [4:56] 06 Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me? [5:28] 07 Keep It Greasey [3:05] 08 The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing [3:31] 09 City Of Tiny Lites [10:10] 10 Pound For A Brown [4:38] °°° tf/Source #3 patch {4:19-5:04} 11 Thirteen* [parts of guitar solo on YCDTOSA6] [17:33] 12 Ms. X story** [8:16] 13 fantasy from a girl from the audience [4:52] 14 Dinah-Moe Humm [5:17] 15 Go Cry On Somebody Else's Shoulder [2:11] 16 Little Rubber Girl [YCDTOSA4] [3:16] 17 The Idiot Bastard Son [2:31] 18 Bobby Brown [2:48] °°° tf/Source #1 patch {2:40-end} 19 Conehead* [8:43] °°° tf/Source #1 patch {0:00-0:28} 20 Suicide Chump [11:11] 21 Little House I Used To Live In* [incl. Thirteen Vamp] [13:18] 22 Zeets [H] [4:13] 23 Watermelon In Easter Hay* [13:25] °°° tf/Source #1 patch {9:57-10:38} 24 Stinkfoot [H] [8:35] 25 Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance* [YCDTOSA6] [5:02] 26 Peaches En Regalia [3:00] 27 Strictly Genteel [5:45] 28 Sofa [2:50] 29 Packard Goose* [19:27] °°° tf/Source #1 patch {18:55-end} 30 Magic Fingers [parts on H] [2:39] °°° tf/Source #1 patch {0:00-0:05} 31 Yellow Snow Suite [incl. Don't Eat The Yellow Snow, H] [14:40] °°° cut/Source #1 patch {12:58-13:38} 32 Camarillo Brillo [3:29] 33 Muffin Man [4:52] °°° cut/Source #1 patch {4:48-4:51} 34 Black Napkins [H] [6:13] °°° main source {0:00-6:08} > Source #1 patch {6:08-end} 35 The Deathless Horsie* [H] [9:53] °°° Source #1 {0:00-0:17} > 'Mystery' source {0:17-end} Total time (patched version) 231.57 min Credits: Many thanks to J.S. for taping this concert and for lending out your master tapes again. Many thanks to doctorzap for this new transfer. Thanks to the taper of the Source #1 & #3 versions, and to snopes and to Drew51 for contributing material from their 1st gen copy (fills), thanks also to the taper and to all original contributors of the 'Mystery' source version including the final portion of this concert, missing in the other two AUD sources. Enjoy !! Seeded by flambay www.zappateers.com/bb - Halloween 2012 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Previous uploads & Samples: Source #1: BengoFury 2nd gen (FZ Shows Archives): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1706 BengoFury-ZappaPenguin 2nd gen w.patches (FZ Shows): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11242 fzmoi69-doctorzap 1st gen Sony transfer (Shoebox): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=17010 fzmoi69-doctorzap 1st gen DR-1 transfer (Shoebox): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=21286 fzmoi69-doctorzap 1st gen Sony transfer (Samples): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=17175 Snopes-Drew51 1st gen (Samples) (Fills included here): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=17175 Source #2: spam-KCDiscipline unknown gen: seeded 2004 on EZT, patches included in http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11242 J.S.-doctorzap MC Sony transfer (Shoebox): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=17052 robsam-doctorzap 1st gen DR-1 transfer (Shoebox): http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=23389 Mystery Source portion (Deathless Horsie): included in http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11242 ffp: 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 01 Crowd, Tuning.flac:f6f717560c249cb06c281840c65d040e 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 02 Ancient Armaments.flac:d3c65a54d5618776a577ccc3d3250104 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 03 'The Big One' Intro.flac:309eafad24fa17b55bc6853eaad60342 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 04 Dancin' Fool.flac:40b92521f8c5016dc11ddaed1badc22e 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 05 Easy Meat.flac:905eea5a039f808c95313f7e64fe3b3e 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 06 Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me.flac:f24c5272185473d156db2ab0406488a8 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 07 Keep It Greasey.flac:8a8de832f6e46ba95b0eeb26dba9ec4f 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 08 The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing.flac:6bbede206a8b05a4ed0c7fe8eca0c7fb 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 09 City Of Tiny Lites.flac:c79a6c2efe8350a9bec3972094896258 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 10 Pound For A Brown.flac:95b33bb5f63b759394bbb462a5657ed0 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 11 Thirteen.flac:003275a5b3bec6ff57bcf4112a65249e 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 12 Ms. X.flac:a8acb9c38def5625a6c953919d7a9c13 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 13 Nancy's Fantasy.flac:99ae254543cfdfcdc84d4c5801ce799b 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 14 Dinah Moe Humm.flac:af323de9583c662891f913c2e4677c1d 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 15 Go Cry On Somedody Else's Shoulder.flac:452bc4155de5c81e1cdbf0214528f03e 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 16 Little Rubber Girl.flac:619f7722960b8efa72e7ff53e09afcb6 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 17 The Idiot Bastard Son.flac:cd5d5dfbba1b6c366028ec54c8ffda13 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 18 Bobby Brown.flac:41440fa686d68a4d229551eaaad6eb0a 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 19 Conehead.flac:a8dbf61699de619def7bbc214d5fda96 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 20 Suicide Chump.flac:ad1250b2a749c03d0fdb7bf6e92844cb 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 21 Little House I Used To Live In.flac:5d10e528508a9591975e9801854a8056 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 22 Zeets.flac:39d1d2655508df387f81ac96791e6b37 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 23 Watermelon In Easter Hay.flac:4263d5aa9ae04ddeabc3bc1f9407d71e 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 24 Stink Foot.flac:2034d2231ae7a32c2ab026fd9f897879 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 25 Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance.flac:bb04ba527e3d547ea22669cd71b7a5d8 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 26 Peaches En Regalia.flac:ac7e29d59624c01695ff948dd5ce8ca7 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 27 Strictly Genteel.flac:ff54c08bdb8bceb390cbf5dfdd3a3caa 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 28 Sofa.flac:983c4dcd3f3dca285d01845fce343e23 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 29 Packard Goose.flac:c7f352ab159db563c41fe64e01ee761e 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 30 Magic Fingers.flac:032d4f45582be53abbced1634f34a92e 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 31 Yellow Snow Suite.flac:beb3e19fe9496443cd7183b1346f48a8 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 32 Camarillo Brillo.flac:bf4413bd968a1b960db5341e59150cca 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 33 Muffin Man.flac:ed756280b295de41f97a675ed7b2f3f8 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 34 Black Napkins.flac:30d59f1ea2a9d319d72b03fafa18a0f4 1978 10 31 Palladium NYC - 35 The Deathless Horsie.flac:885fee9879581ef438b0edbda24a9322
Andrew Long (2/4.9) flac16 / 2 View   Multiple sources; Main body of this seed: taped and contributed by J.S. and transferred by...
ZIP007 (2/5) FLAC / 0 View   AUD
Notes: Master Tapes Maxell UDXLII > Sony TC-WE475 (new out of box) or Teac W-518R (used on tapes needing azimuth correction) > Monster Cable > Audigy 2 44.1Khz 16 Bit > Soundforge 9 >Traders Little Helper Flac level 8 w/s.b.e.c.
Lello (2/5) Dvd Pro / 2 A A View  
Jojo Fischer (2/5) cdr / 3 B View  
Notes: "Happy Halloween 1978"
MajorWoody (2/0) cdr / 3 A B+ View   Aud (unknown equipment) > low gen CrO2 cassettes > wav (CEP, tracked, speed corrected) >...
Notes: Really and truly, what needs to be said about this one? Zappa, O'Hearn, Shankar, special guests, epic jams (Packard Goose - does anything more need to be said?), one-time-only rarities (dig that Idiot Bastard Son - the backing music sounding almost like Lather) and old standby favorites (probably the finest version of Watermelon in Easter Hay ever played live) all unite for nearly four hours of absolute magic. Just to scratch the very surface of what's on offer here: we have twelve minutes of relative dead air (Ms. X and, even moreso, Nancy's Life Story. Bobby Brown is played. The bass on Easy Meat is really... out of tune. Those fifteen minutes combined are the lowpoint of the show. The high point? If I had to choose just one, Packard Goose. Nearly twenty minutes of blisteringly intense soloing from both Zappa and Shankar which, were it not for the "recent" discovery of the final fifteen minutes of the show, would be easy to consider the "climax" of the night. About that "recent" discovery. Evidently there were two very-well-prepared tapers in the audience that night. One of them made his recording from the floor, the other from the balcony. I believe it's the balcony recording which has been in circulation since the 1980s, but someone may have to correct me. Anyway, the other recording didn't see wide circulation until sometime in the late 1990s (late 1998, to hear Foggy G tell it). It had always irked me that this show was incomplete, especially when we knew a complete "patch" was out there. Of all the shows to be left in an incomplete condition, why this one!? Why the Big One? Of course, I devoted the next year or so of my life to bitching about this fact whenever remotely possible, until one day, from out of the blue, our very own flambay contacted me, with news that was not just exciting, but downright STARTLING. Not only was this second source out there - this second source, containing nearly ten minutes of breath-taking Deathless Horsie jamming - but, in a development which I had completely forgotten about, it was a COMPLETE version of this second source. In other words, a version which could be used for - wait for it - PATCHES! Yes, the original source of this show was a very nice sounding recording, but suffered from one major flaw: Of the four extended numbers (Pound, Little House, Packard, Black Napkins / Deathless), only one of them did not feature a tape-flip at some point. Nothing more frustrating than hearing that delicious guitar slam kick off the solo section to Packard Goose, only to be yanked back to reality as the violin solo quickly fades out. Well, okay, plenty of more frustrating things (tapes running out with no replacement, for instance), but still, tape cuts suck. Long story short: Thanks to flambay, each and every tape cut has been patched with the alternate source, which sounds a bit darker (strangely devoid of ambience - maybe it's the balcony recording? Who knows!), and each and every minute has been speed corrected. While there -may- be an even more superlative version out there (the patch source claims to be from a master recording, but shows clear signs of NR), this is still at the very least 95% "as good as it gets" (the main source being a probable second-gen), and sometimes - very, very rarely, but sometimes - the prospect of a little post-holiday surprise trumps Official Procedure. Band: Frank Zappa - guitar, vocals Patrick O'Hearn - bass, vocals Arthur Barrow - bass, vocals Denny Walley - slide guitar, vocals Vinnie Colaiuta - drums, seal calls Ed Mann - percussion Tommy Mars - keyboards, vocals Peter Wolf - keyboards Guests: L. Shankar - electric violin Warren Cucurullo - monologue Nancy - monologue Disc 1 77:23 Setlist: 01. Ancient Armaments 6:38 02. Intro 3:42 03. Dancin' Fool 4:34 04. Easy Meat 4:56 05. Don't You Want A Man Like Me? 5:29 06. Keep It Greasey 3:05 07. The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing 3:31 08. City Of Tiny Lights 10:11 09. Pound For A Brown (tapeflip @ 2:53, patched with alt source) 4:30 10. Thirteen (main source resumes @ 0:26) 17:38 11. Ms. X 8:11 12. Nancy's Life Story 4:51 Disc 2 75:20 1. Dinah-Moe Humm 5:05 2. Go Cry On Somebody Else's Shoulder 2:23 3. Little Rubber Girl (tapeflip @ 3:11, patched with alt source) 3:15 4. Idiot Bastard Son (main source resumes @ 0:04) 2:30 5. Bobby Brown 2:49 6. Conehead 8:43 7. Suicide Chump 11:11 8. Little House I Used To Live In (tapeflip @ 17:26, patched with alt source) 17:27 9. Watermelon In Easter Hay (main source resumes @ 0:11) 11:34 10. Preamble 1:51 11. Stinkfoot 8:26 Disc 3 77:45 1. Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance 5:04 2. Peaches En Regalia 2:59 3. Strictly Genteel 5:43 4. Sofa 2:48 5. Packard Goose (tapeflip @ 4:18-5:32, patched with alt source) 19:26 6. Magic Fingers 2:37 7. Don't Eat the Yellow Snow 2:24 8. Nanook Rubs It 5:24 9. St. Alphonso's Pancake Breakfast 1:50 10. Father O'Blivion 2:24 11. Rollo 2:31 12. Camarillo Brillo 3:29 13. Muffin Man 4:31 14. Black Napkins (cuts @ 5:44, patched with alt source) 6:32 15. The Deathless Horsie (all from alt source, clicks in last 0:05 or so) 9:56 Notes: With L. Shankar on tracks 10, 18, 20-21, 24, 28, and 38. Lineage: Main source pre-fl/ZP: Aud (unknown equipment) > low gen CrO2 cassettes > wav (CEP, tracked, speed corrected) > FLAC (Frontend with SBE correction) Alt. source pre-fl/ZP: Aud (unknown equipment) > ? > FLAC (one big mystery!) ZP extra lineage: > .FLAC Frontend (decoded to .WAV) > WavMerge (all tracks merged) > Wavelab (speed correction per flambay) > GoldWave (patches edited in) > CDWav (tracks split, saved as .FLAC level 8 ) > you, the listener Do not sell or redistribute this recording in any "for-profit" sense. Audience recordings are good. Bootlegs are bad. Torrented to http://www.zappateers.com/bb on Jan. 21st 2008 by ZP
Andrew (2/5) CDR / 3 View  
Notes: Pops on disc 3
YokohamaJ (2/0) cdr / 2 View   RECORDED BY W.C. SONY TC 126 / SONY F 99 S: LINEAGE: MASTER CASSETTE > CASSETTE > AUDIGY...
Walter Sobchak (2/1) CDR / 3 View  
EMSheldon (2/0) SHN / 3 View   Label: Moustache's Magic Music MMM-02-14/15/16 (2003)
Notes: Happy Halloween 1978 (3-CD Box) Palladium, New York, 31-Oct-1978 Musicians: Frank Zappa, Patrick O'Hearn, Denny Walley, Arthur Barrow, Vinne Colaiuta, Ed Mann, Tommy Mars, Peter Wolf plus Lakshmirayana Shankar and Warren Cucurrullo Label: Moustache's Magic Music MMM-02-14/15/16 (2003) 1. Ancient Armaments [Halloween version] 2. Intro [Halloween version?] 3. Dancin' Fool [Halloween version] 4. Easy Meat 5. Honey, Don't You Want a Man Like Me? 6. Keep It Greasy 7. The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing 8. City of Tiny Lites 9. A Pound for a Brown on the Bus 10. Thirteen [Zappa/Shankar] [one source of the Stage #6 version] 11. Ms X 12. Fantasy from a Girl from the Audience 13. Dinah-Moe Humm 14. Go Cry on Somebody Else's Shoulder [Zappa/Walley - one source of "Little Rubber Girl" on Stage #4] 15. The Idiot Bastard Son / Bobby Brown 16. Conehead 17. Suicide Chump 18. Little House I Used to Live In 19. Watermelon in Easter Hay 20. Stink-Foot [Halloween version] 21. Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance [Stage #6 version] 22. Peaches en Regalia 23. Strictly Genteel 24. Sofa 25. Packard Goose 26. Magic Fingers [one source of the Halloween version] 27. Yellow Snow Suite [Halloween version] 28. Camarillo Brillo 29. Black Napkins [Halloween version] 30. The Deathless Horsie [Halloween version] Collage cover, with Zappa conducting the band. Limited 500-copy edition. Auspiciously released very close in time to the (non-bootleg) Halloween audio-DVD. Tracks 1-3 (2?), 20, 27, 29-30 and part os 26 have been officially released on the Halloween audio-DVD. (Track 1 also formed the B-side for the "I Don't Wanna Get Drafted" single.) Part of track 14 has been released on Stage #4, as "Little Rubber Girl". Track 11 is Warren Cucurrullo telling a story about when he picked up a transsexual. Track 21 and part of track 10 have been officially released on Stage #6.
Jason DeRose (2/5) 3 / 3 View   Unknown
John Peters (1/0) FLAC / 1 View   Sony TC 152-SD deck / Sony ECM-23F: MC Maxell UDXLII > Nakamichi DR-1 > Realtek HDAudio pentium...
WheelToTheStorm (1/5) flac / A+ View   SBD
Carter (1/5) CDR / 4 View  
Jeff Kaisershot (1/5) SHN / 3 B+ View   AUD
Jeff Kaisershot (1/5) FLAC / 0 A- View   AUD; unknown gen (1st or 2nd) from cdr
Jeff Kaisershot (1/5) FLAC / 0 A View   AUD
Jeff Kaisershot (1/5) FLAC / 0 A View   AUD
Herandnu (1/5) cdr / 2 A- View  
Notes: [New York] Good audience recording. Two different sources. w L. Shankar. Incomplete.
Mark Diamond (1/3) / 3 View  
Jim (1/5) cdr / 3 View   AUD
kam (1/0) flac / 0 View  
Randy Foley (1/5) CDR / 3 B View   AUD
Notes: (77:31)/(77:51)/(79:01)
wharfratpat (1/4) FLAC / 4 View   AUD
LossLess Legs (1/0) CDR / 3 View   MASTER CASSETTE > CASSETTE > AUDIGY 2 48 KHZ 24 BIT > SOUND FORGE (WAVES X-NOISE ,BBE,...
Notes: 10/20/2006 - YokohamaJ
bluibootleg (1/0) FLAC / 3 View   Audience
robin (1/4.9) cdr / 3 View   see notes
magilla (1/5) FLAC / 3 View   Aud/unknown equipment>low gen CrO2 cassettes>wav (CEP, tracked, speed corrected)>flac (Frontend...
Dario Birindelli (1/3) CDR / 3 B++ View   AUD
taperBWeed (1/5) / 3 View   aud A-/B+
fossilcat (1/5) 3CDR / 3 B View  
bewise (1/0) flac / 3 View  
Notes: 1450mb sd 20
Greg (1/5) Audio CDR / 3 View  
Notes: Famous Halloween show that some believe to be one of the best Zappa shows ever. Features guest L. Shankar on electric violin. Frank Zappa's guitar sound is remarkable and there are loads of solos. The line up is: Denny Walley, Warren Cucurullo, L. Shankar (Halloween guest), Arthur Barrow, Vinnie Colaiuta (what chops!), Ed Mann, Tommy Mars and Peter Wolf. TAO. Pops at the end of disc three during Muffin Man and Black Napkins. Thanks Art
Kris (1/0) Audio / 3 B View  
Notes: TAO
Joe Zielinski (1/5) CDR / 3 Vg+ View  
Kyle Wallace (1/5) / 3 View   aud
Jody Bugabear (1/5) SHN / 3 View   HappyHalloween1978
Remi LeClair (1/5) CDR / 3 View   unk. aud.
Evan Halperin (1/0) Aud / 3 A View   unknown
Notes: w/Shankar (*) "The Big One" Lineage: Aud/unknown equipment>low gen CrO2 cassettes>wav (CEP, tracked, speed corrected)>flac (Frontend with SBE correction) (1.41 GB) (Pioneer W606DR deck/SB Live! Gold Pro soundcard) Taped by: n/a Transferred by: BengoFury The sound improves a lot after the first 6 mins These tapes are believed to be 2nd gen, traded from SH in the late 80's, thanks to Lolo for giving them to me! Setlist: (suggested splitting for CD burning: 1-11, 12-20, 21-30) Ancient Armaments Dancin' Fool Easy Meat Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me? Keep It Greasey The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing City Of Tiny Lights A Pound For A Brown (TF, cuts, 2:56) Thirteen (* guitar solo on YCDTOSA #6) Ms. X (story told by Warren Cucurullo) fantasy from a girl from the audience Dinah-Moe Humm Go Cry On Somebody Else's Shoulder/Little Rubber Girl (YCDTOSA #4) (TF, cut end, no music missing) Idiot Bastard Son Bobby Brown Conehead* Suicide Chump Little House I Used To Live In* (TF, cut end, no music missing) Watermelon In Easter Hay* Stinkfoot Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance* (YCDTOSA #6) Peaches En Regalia Strictly Genteel Sofa Packard Goose* (cut @ 4:23, tape flip) Magic Fingers Yellow Snow Suite Camarillo Brillo Muffin Man Black Napkins/Deathless Horsie* (cuts @ 5:46, at the start of DH) == Frank Zappa's Band July 1978 - April 1979 == FZ, Ike Willis (out between Oct 14-31), Patrick O'Hearn (October 13-31), Denny Walley, Warren Cucurullo (Halloween guest and spring tour member), L. Shankar (Berlin + Halloween guest), Arthur Barrow, Vinnie Colaiuta, Ed Mann, Tommy Mars, Peter Wolf. Song properties of this tour: Yellow Snow Suite = Don't Eat The Yellow Snow, Nanook Rubs It, St. Alphonzo's Pancake Breakfast, Rollo
Evan Halperin (1/0) Aud / 3 A View   unknown
Notes: w/Shankar (*) "The Big One" Lineage: Aud/unknown equipment>low gen CrO2 cassettes>wav (CEP, tracked, speed corrected)>flac (Frontend with SBE correction) (1.41 GB) (Pioneer W606DR deck/SB Live! Gold Pro soundcard) Taped by: n/a Transferred by: BengoFury The sound improves a lot after the first 6 mins These tapes are believed to be 2nd gen, traded from SH in the late 80's, thanks to Lolo for giving them to me! Setlist: (suggested splitting for CD burning: 1-11, 12-20, 21-30) Ancient Armaments Dancin' Fool Easy Meat Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me? Keep It Greasey The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing City Of Tiny Lights A Pound For A Brown (TF, cuts, 2:56) Thirteen (* guitar solo on YCDTOSA #6) Ms. X (story told by Warren Cucurullo) fantasy from a girl from the audience Dinah-Moe Humm Go Cry On Somebody Else's Shoulder/Little Rubber Girl (YCDTOSA #4) (TF, cut end, no music missing) Idiot Bastard Son Bobby Brown Conehead* Suicide Chump Little House I Used To Live In* (TF, cut end, no music missing) Watermelon In Easter Hay* Stinkfoot Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance* (YCDTOSA #6) Peaches En Regalia Strictly Genteel Sofa Packard Goose* (cut @ 4:23, tape flip) Magic Fingers Yellow Snow Suite Camarillo Brillo Muffin Man Black Napkins/Deathless Horsie* (cuts @ 5:46, at the start of DH) == Frank Zappa's Band July 1978 - April 1979 == FZ, Ike Willis (out between Oct 14-31), Patrick O'Hearn (October 13-31), Denny Walley, Warren Cucurullo (Halloween guest and spring tour member), L. Shankar (Berlin + Halloween guest), Arthur Barrow, Vinnie Colaiuta, Ed Mann, Tommy Mars, Peter Wolf. Song properties of this tour: Yellow Snow Suite = Don't Eat The Yellow Snow, Nanook Rubs It, St. Alphonzo's Pancake Breakfast, Rollo
Brian (0/0) / 0 View   aud.unknown.flac
Pat (0/4.8) flac16 / 3 View   AUD
Notes: Lineage: Main source (pre Zappateers) Aud (unknown equipment) > low gen CrO2 cassettes > wav (CEP, tracked, speed corrected) > FLAC (Frontend with SBE correction)
Frank Colonna (0/0) CDR / 4 A- View   SONY TC 126 / SONY F 99 S
Kevin Barrett (0/0) CD-R / 3 View  
Patrick Stoops (0/0) shn / 3 View   Label: Moustache's Magic Music MMM-02-14/15/16 (2003)
Notes: 3aud
Mike (0/5) FLAC / 3 View   SONY F 99 > SONY TC 126 > SMASTER CASSETTE > CASSETTE > AUDIGY 2 48 KHZ 24 BIT >...
The Swingin'Pig (0/0) lossless / 0 View  
Razmid (0/4.8) shn / 3 View  
Derek (0/0) FLAC / 3 View  
Alex Basile (0/5) CDR / 3 View   AUD
Notes: Aud/unknown equipment>low gen CrO2 cassettes>wav (CEP, tracked, speed corrected)>flac
Matt W (0/5) CD-R/3 SHN / 3 B+ View  
wayne (0/0) / 0 View  
wayne (0/0) / 0 View  
Craig Jefcoat (0/4.5) / 3 B+ View   AUD
klik (0/0) FLAC / 3 View  
kimbro (0/0) / 3 B View   AUD
Matt (0/0) CD / 3 A View