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Garcia & Grisman 12/07/1991

SHOWID 89604

Set I

Jack A Roe, Spring In Cali, Grateful Dawg, Louis Collins, Off To Sea Once More, Friend Of The Devil, Oh The Wind And Rain, Eat My Dust, Arabia

Set II

Shady Grove, When First Unto This Country, I'm Troubled, Sweet Sunny South, The Thrill Is Gone, So What, Limbo, Red Rockin' Chair, Never Seen Nobody Like You, God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen

E: Ripple

Set III

 

Comment

 

Collectors With This Show

User (active/rating) Media / # Show Sound Details DB Source User Source
OldNeumanntapr (5/5) FLAC / 0 A View 23118 Neumann KM 54s > Denon DAT (Possibly DTR-80P)
Notes: Trade SHNs >FLAC (Level 8) Via xACT 2.37
Rick Martin (5/5) SHN / 2 A View   MAD (Vintage 1950s Neumann 257s)>Denon DAT deck (model unknown)) > DAT > WAV > SHNv3.
Notes: Complete
Marty (5/4.9) DVD / 1 View  
Notes: Missing first 4 songs no menu or chapters excellent sound & picture
sean hite (5/0) SHN / 0 View 13200
Notes: (13200) Garcia: Garcia & Grisman: Ip/II: MAD (ORTF Schoeps CMC34 [cardioids]) > DATs > Wavelab 3.0 M-S Processor @ 24 bits, dithering to 16 bits > master CD > HP 9350i extraction using EAC > patching using Sound Forge Studio 6.0 > tracking using CD Wave > sector boundary alignment using shntool > .shn encoding using mkwACT.
sean hite (5/0) SHN / 0 View 23118
Notes: (23118) Garcia: MAD (Vintage 1950s Neumann KM54s)>Denon DAT deck (model unknown)) > DAT > WAV > SHNv3. Tapers: J.& C. Vasseur. DAT material provided by J.Powell. DAT > SHN by C.Ladner: Sony PCM-R500 > coaxial S/PDIF > M Audio Audiophile 2496 > WAV recording/editing (Soundforge 6) > tracking (cdwav editor) > sector boundaries confirmed (shntool) > SHN (mkwact). Complete source. Clipping and distortion early on.
Gary (5/4.3) CDR / 2 View  
Notes: DAUD [23118] Neumann 257
Joplin R. (5/3) DVD / 1 View  
Notes: Partial, Single Cam on Tripod, "PRO-SHOT" probably by J. Kreutzmann. Excellent quality.
C. Daniels (5/0) DVD / 1 View  
crozier (5/4.9) FUJI / 2 View  
Notes: MAD (Vintage 1950s Neumann 257s)>Denon DAT deck (model unknown)) > DAT > WAV > SHNv3. Tapers: J.& C. Vasseur. DAT material provided by J.Powell. DAT > SHN by C.Ladner: Sony PCM-R500 > coaxial S/PDIF > M Audio Audiophile 2496 > WAV recording/editing (Soundforge 6) > tracking (cdwav editor) > sector boundaries confirmed (shntool) > SHN (mkwact).
Jon (5/0) DVD / 1 View  
Notes: Single Cam
Gratefulmjh (5/5) / 2 View  
Notes: low volume AUD
Voodoochild137 (5/5) DVD / 0 A+ A+ View  
Zeke Strober (5/4) DVD / 1 A A View  
Rudolf E. Zielinski (5/5) CDR / 2 A+ View   AUD
katy miller (5/5) cdr / 1 View  
Notes: A:?>?>CD IIp+e
KAS (5/5) / 0 View  
Notes: DVD 5
K Snyder (5/5) shn / 1 View  
Bruce O'Neil (4/0) shn / 0 View 23118 aud
Notes: jg+dg91-12-07.vasseur-neumann.misSHN.23118.sbeok.shnf
Bruce O'Neil (4/0) shn / 0 View 13200 aud
Notes: jg+dg91-12-07.schoeps.cohen-jupille.13200.sbeok.shnf
Phishrman27 (4/0) DVD / 2 View   AUD
Phishrman27 (4/0) FLAC / 2 View 23118 MAD
John Gibbs (4/5) DVD / 1 View   Pro Shot G SPOT SAYS Audio Codec MPEG-1 Layer 2 Audio Bitrate: 224 kb/s tot , Stereo...
Notes: Partial Pro Shot
Jeff Williams (4/0) DVD / 1 View   Pro Shot DVD
Notes: Audio Codec MPEG-1 Layer 2 Audio Bitrate: 224 kb/s tot , Stereo Video System: NTSC 29.97 fps Video Bitrate: 6121 kbps INC
Fleahman (4/5) CDR / 2 A View 13200
Ryan Polansky (4/5) cdr / 2 A- View 23118 MAD (Vintage 1950s Neumann 257s)>Denon DAT deck (model unknown)) > DAT > WAV > SHNv3
Notes: Some intrusive audience noise at times, but too good of a show to pass up
quinnster (4/5) cdr / 2 View  
Matthew Smith (4/0) SHN / 1 A+ View   MAD > subsequent DAT stages > master CD
Chuck Gannon (4/5) SHN / 1 View 13200 Schoeps CMC34>MAD>SoundForge>SHN
Jason Maneval (4/5) SHN / 2 View 23118
Jon Paulk (4/5) shn / 2 View 13200 MAD (ORTF Schoeps CMC34 [cardioids]) > DATs > Wavelab 3.0 M-S Processor @ 24 bits,...
Tom (4/0) .SHN / 1 View   MAD (ORTF Schoeps CMC34 [cardioids]) > DATs > Wavelab 3.0 M-SProcessor @ 24 bits, dithering...
Notes: Garcia & Grisman Warfield Theater San Francisco, CA 12/7/91 Ip/II MAD (ORTF Schoeps CMC34 [cardioids]) > DATs > Wavelab 3.0 M-S Processor @ 24 bits, dithering to 16 bits > master CD > HP 9350i extraction using EAC > patching using Sound Forge Studio 6.0 > tracking using CD Wave > sector boundary alignment using shntool > .shn encoding using mkwACT. M-S processing by Dave Cohen. EAC > SHN by Joe Jupille. Disc One (5) 23:58 --Set I-- 01. Jack-A-Roe [5:06] [0:27] 02. Spring in California [5:11] [0:15] 03. Grateful Dawg [3:39] [0:16] 04. Louis Collins [5:17] [1:00] 05. Off To Sea Once More// [2:44#] (missing Friend Of The Devil) (missing Oh The Wind And Rain) (missing Arabia) Disc Two (12) 69:54 --Set II-- 01. //Shady Grove [#3:29] [0:07] 02. When First Unto This Country [4:08] [0:24] 03. I'm Troubled [3:38] [1:24] 04. Sweet Sunny South (1) [3:37] [1:55] 05. The Thrill Is Gone [5:27] [0:15] 06. So What? [7:28] [0:36] 07. Sitting Here In Limbo [6:56] [1:03] 08. Old Rockin' Chair [8:07] [0:19] 09. Red Rocking Chair [3:55] [0:16] 10. Never Seen Nobody Like You [3:26] [0:04] 11. God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen [8:29] [0:26] --Encore-- 12. Ripple [4:07] [0:07] Flaws: d1t01 Jack-A-Roe digi-flit @ 0:39 d1t05 Off to Sea Once More digi-static @ end, just before cut d1t05 Off to Sea Once More cuts out, most missing d2t01 Shady Grove cuts in, not much missing Notes: (1) Garcia and Grisman on banjo I have come across two partial copies of this show. The first is the end of set II, consisting of Sweet Sunny South through Ripple, with cuts at the end of Never Seen Nobody Like You and at the beginning of God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen. It came to me as deriving from a DAT sbd master. It sounds nice, but is a bit flat and unbalanced. I am not even sure it is a sbd, as I can occasionally hear mics being adjusted (though these could be stage mics). The second contains the first half of set I (through Off to Sea Once More, which cuts out) and all of set II (Shady Grove and Never Seen Nobody Like you cut in). It came to me reliably as a MAD > subsequent DAT stages > master CD (mine). I have chosen to use the "sbd" material only for patching the cut before Never Seen Nobody like you. This was done using Sound Forge Studio 6.0, which was also used to smooth the cuts out of Off to Sea Once More and into Shady Grove. This is my first stab at patching, so I apologize if the results are abrupt! Hopefully getting this out there might bring forth a complete copy of this wonderful show. Come out, come out, wherever you are!
Kevin Tobin Videos (3/5) DVD / 1 Yes View   Pro-shot clips
Notes: From Matt Z. - never been seeded. Unlike the version seeded at LL on 1/11/08, the bit rate is higher and the audio is LPCM wave vice ac3 on the seeded version
Kevin Tobin Videos (3/5) DVD5 / 1 Yes View   single camera pro-shot with sbd (ac3) audio feed
Notes: unknown production - seeded on LL 1/11/08 LL Set 1 and seeded on TTD 10/11/07 TTD Seeding
joe m (3/5) DVD / 1 View   Pro Shot, PARTIAL
Doug (3/0) / 0 A+ View  
Notes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOUqEqxtUJE
Alex Bushe (3/5) DVD / 1 View   tripod
Notes: shot by Justin Kreutzmann from front of balcony
Carl (3/0) DVD-R / 1 View   see notes
Notes: Pro Shot Audio Codec MPEG-1 Layer 2 Audio Bitrate: 224 kb/s tot , Stereo Video System: NTSC 29.97 fps Video Bitrate: 6121 kbps
steve (3/5) CDR / 2 View  
Gibson_SG (3/0) shn / 0 View 23118
Alex Shapiro (3/5) CDR / 2 View   MAD (ORTF Schoeps CMC34 [cardioids]) > DAT
Alex Shapiro (3/5) CDR / 2 View 13200 MAD (ORTF Schoeps CMC34 [cardioids]) > DATs > Wavelab 3.0 M-S Processor @ 24 bits,...
Tom Conklin (3/0) DVD / 1 View  
Notes: aud-shot only includes: Off To Sea Once More, FOTD, Arabia, Oh The Wind And The Rain, Sitting In Limbo, God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen, and Ripple
Barry Smith (3/5) CDR / 2 View  
Drew Whorley (3/5) / 3 View  
Notes: shn
Drew Whorley (3/5) / 3 View  
Notes: shn
Steven Kotelniski (3/0) DVD / 1 A+ A+ View  
Notes: Fan shot. Incomplete.
Nick (3/5) CD-R / 2 A View  
CricKeT (3/0) DVD / 1 View   Said to be ProShot, but is not.
Notes: This was seeded by Dylan over at Traders Den. This is the low grade version. High grade Version Not For Trade.
Jeff Salmon (3/4.8) CDR / 2 A- View  
Notes: MAD(vintage 1950's Neumann 257s)>Denon DAT>DAT>WAV>SHNv3
JMB (3/5) DAT / 1 View   AU->D->P->D
Notes: B&K 4011 or Shoepps Partial set I, encore missing
kindkesey (3/0) wav / 2 View  
Jeff Martinson (3/4.7) CDR/SHN / 2 A A View   MAD (ORTF Schoeps CMC34 [cardioids]) > DATs > Wavelab 3.0 M-S
Notes: MAD (ORTF Schoeps CMC34 [cardioids]) > DATs > Wavelab 3.0 M-S Processor @ 24 bits, dithering to 16 bits > master CD > HP 9350i extraction using EAC > patching using Sound Forge Studio 6.0 > tracking using CD Wave > sector boundary alignment using shntool >==1p+2--shn achived+audio
Matt (3/0) CD / 2 A A- View   Bit Torrent
Greg Cohoon (3/0) SHN / 2 View 23118
Notes: 2 SHN, 2 CDA
ravenspace (3/0) shn / 1 View 13200
Robert Babula (3/0) / 2 View   MAD (Vintage 1950s Neumann 257s)>Denon DAT deck (model unknown)) > DAT > WAV > SHNv3.
Notes: First public performance of "Arabia". First 'Sitting In Limbo' in nearly a decade.
Brian Hedden (3/5) CD-R / 2 A A View   MAD (Vintage 1950s Neumann 257s)>Denon DAT deck (model unknown)) > DAT > WAV > SHNv3
Scott S (3/0) SHN / 2 View 13200
Jeff Warren (3/4) Shn / 0 A A View  
Shawnee (2/5) DVD / 1 View  
Notes: Partial
Canyon (2/5) DVD / 1 View   DVD
Notes: 7 *incomplete show*
RM's Giant Live Music Archive (2/5) DVD / 0 View   NTSC Pro-Shot video (C145 & L040)
Notes: Audio Codec MPEG-1 Layer 2 Audio Bitrate: 224 kb/s tot , Stereo Video System: NTSC 29.97 fps Video Bitrate: 6121 kbps
Adam Dwyer (2/0) shn / 1 View 13200
Michael McMullan (2/5) CDR/FLAC / 2 A- View 23118 Aud
michael Ferguson (2/4.3) SHN / 1 View 13200
Dan Goorsky (2/5) shn / 2 A A View  
Notes: missing three tunes off first disc
William Ferdinandsen (2/5) CDR / 2 View  
Chris (2/2.5) shn / 2 View 23118
TedK (2/4.5) cdr / 2 View  
Eric Laskey (2/0) Fuji / 2 A View   DAUD
Michael Goff (2/5) cd / 1 View 13200
Notes: garcia dvd#32
Dan Faust (2/5) cdr / 2 A View   MAD (Vintage 1950s Neumann 257s)>Denon DAT deck (model unknown)) > DAT > WAV > SHNv3.
quimbo (1/5) FLAC / 0 View 13200
quimbo (1/5) FLAC / 0 View 23118
Geoff MacNaughton (1/5) 2 / 2 B+ View 13200
Geoff MacNaughton (1/5) 2 / 2 C+ View 23118
John Peters (1/0) SHN / 1 View 23118 Neumann KM54s: DAT (unknown Denon DAT deck) > DAT > Sony PCM-R500 > coaxial S/PDIF > M Audio...
thegreatdivide6 (1/0) DVD / 0 View   pro shot
Notes: DVD
Carter (1/5) CDR / 2 View  
Phil (1/5) CD/R / 2 View  
Notes: in SHN format on DVD
Rick Childs (1/4.9) CDR / 2 A++ A++ View 23118
Notes: Garcia & Grisman 12/07/1991 Warfield Theater San Francisco, CA MAD (Vintage 1950s Neumann 257s)>Denon DAT deck (model unknown)) > DAT > WAV > SHNv3. Tapers: J.& C. Vasseur. DAT material provided by J.Powell. DAT > SHN by C.Ladner: Sony PCM-R500 > coaxial S/PDIF > M Audio Audiophile 2496 > WAV recording/editing (Soundforge 6) > tracking (cdwav editor) > sector boundaries confirmed (shntool) > SHN (mkwact). Disc 1 - Set 1 01 Jack-A-Roe [05:33] 02 Spring in California [05:27] 03 Grateful Dawg [03:57] 04 Louis Collins [06:18] 05 Off To Sea Once More [05:58] 06 Friend Of The Devil [07:49] 07 Oh The Wind And Rain [05:41] 08 Arabia [16:24] Total time: 57:08 Disc Two - Set 2 01 Shady Grove [03:34] 02 When First Unto This Country [04:31] 03 I'm Troubled [05:12] 04 Sweet Sunny South [07:12] 05 The Thrill Is Gone [05:20] 06 So What? [08:03] 07 Sitting Here In Limbo [07:59] 08 Old Rockin' Chair [08:22] 09 Red Rocking Chair [04:12] 10 Never Seen Nobody Like You [03:34] 11 God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen [09:31] Encore 12 Ripple [04:29] Total time: 72:03 Comments: First public performance of "Arabia". First 'Sitting In Limbo' in nearly a decade. There were some major problems with clipping and distortion early on during the first set as the levels were set very high on the master. Because of the degree of distortion, I spliced the first 26 seconds of the first track from the previous seeded source. Early on there is some fairly loud close up yelping/noise. I went through and selectively attenuated regions of clipping and also the intermittent yelping and whooping using Soundforge 6, but it still is at times annoyingly loud. First note or two of Shady Grove is clipped. Word has it that it is also the first Garcia recording by Chuck and Janet Vasseur. It appears that the Neumann model used were 257s. Reviewing the Neumann website I can't find reference to this microphone number (i see 254s-256s), but these were apparently used for all of the Vasseur's audience recordings, so i need to update the db. Portions of this performance are featured in the film "Grateful Dawg". If you do not have this, GET IT by all means. The emotional kick in the gut you will feel from scene 1 take 1 with Jerry on stage at the Warfield alone is worth the price and will bring it all right back. misSHN 3/04.
x poordevil (1/5) DVD ProA+ / 1 View   Pro shot DVD
aikox2 (1/4.9) / 0 View  
Notes: DVD PRO. Seven-song excerpt.
mike (1/5) DVD / 1 View   Partial sets *filmed by Justin Kreutzman*
Notes: Audience Shot> Low Gen VHS > SA > DVD Off to Sea Once More FOTD Oh the Wind and the Rain Arabia Sitting in Limbo God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen Ripple
Dave (1/3) / 1 View  
Notes: DVD
SpiralLightofVenus (1/5) DVD / 0 AUD View  
Notes: DVD AUD TB5
Mark Diamond (1/3) / 2 View 23118
Jim (1/5) DVD / 1 View   partial set
Notes: Off to Sea Once More - FOTD - Arabia - Oh the Wind and the Rain - Sitting in Limbo - God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen - Ripple
Curtis Ensler (1/0) DVD / 1 View  
Notes: ens of Set 1 and Encore
Jerry Jacobsen (1/5) DVD-R / 1 A View  
Notes: Incomplete show: Off To Sea Once More, FOTD, Arabia, Oh The Wind And The Rain, Sitting In Limbo, God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen, and Ripple
STLBlues (1/5) DVD / 1 A+ A+ View   Pro-Single-Cam (4:3) > Unknown Recording > DVD5 > VOB Merge 2.5 > DVD Lab PRO 2.0...
Notes: Pro-Single-Cam (Tripod) - LPCM sbd/aud Matrix Audio - Partial Show Only (54 minutes)
STLBlues (1/5) DVD dts5.1 / 1 A A View   Pro-Single-Cam - click on "view" for complete details
Notes: Pro-Shot - DTS 5.1 Audio - 54 minutes
Maria Reine (1/5) DVD / 1 View  
Notes: NTSC, pro shot. DVD[max500p]
artisgilmore (1/0) D5 / 1 View  
Jeff (1/5) DVD / 1 View   unknown
Notes: DV402 Garcia & Grisman 12-7-91 Warfield Theater San Francisco Ca Pro Shot G SPOT SAYS Audio Codec MPEG-1 Layer 2 Audio Bitrate: 224 kb/s tot , Stereo Video System: NTSC 29.97 fps Video Bitrate: 6121 kbps Off to Sea Once More FOTD Arabia Oh the Wind and the Rain Sitting in Limbo GOd Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen Ripple f90c6e7c4138f4abcfb8255456ebe646 *g&g.txt c3dc76a17eb1eb7425159e93b900aee3 *VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP c3dc76a17eb1eb7425159e93b900aee3 *VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO 666cb0df9051eb96bc6319e3d4d0eddc *VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.BUP 666cb0df9051eb96bc6319e3d4d0eddc *VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO 9d4f29a5fe4a07decfa994c6379d972e *VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB f9ea3099c42f0422a86e684050d0cc16 *VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB a81ce60e5ef7a5caab513c4d8de3c7f6 *VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB downloaded from: http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46856
taperBWeed (1/5) / 2 View 23118 MAD (Vintage 1950s Neumann 257s)>Denon DAT deck (model unknown)) > DAT > WAV > SHNv3.
earthscapeben (1/0) DVD / 1 View   Pro Shot
Notes: Pro Shot
Ruby Tuesday (1/5) DVD / 1 View  
Notes: Partial show, pro shot
denance (1/4.9) shn / 0 View 13200
denance (1/4.9) shn / 2 View 23118