Garcia & Grisman 12/07/1991
Set I
Jack A Roe, Spring In Cali, Grateful Dawg, Louis Collins, Off To Sea Once More, Friend Of The Devil, Oh The Wind And Rain, Eat My Dust, Arabia
Set II
Shady Grove, When First Unto This Country, I'm Troubled, Sweet Sunny South, The Thrill Is Gone, So What, Limbo, Red Rockin' Chair, Never Seen Nobody Like You, God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen
E: Ripple
E: Ripple
Set III
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Collectors With This Show
| User (active/rating) | Media / # | Show | Sound | Details | DB Source | User Source |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| OldNeumanntapr | FLAC / 0 | A | View | 23118 | Neumann KM 54s > Denon DAT (Possibly DTR-80P) | |
| Notes: | Trade SHNs >FLAC (Level 8) Via xACT 2.37 | |||||
| Rick Martin | SHN / 2 | A | View | MAD (Vintage 1950s Neumann 257s)>Denon DAT deck (model unknown)) > DAT > WAV > SHNv3. | ||
| Notes: | Complete | |||||
| Marty | DVD / 1 | View | ||||
| Notes: | Missing first 4 songs no menu or chapters excellent sound & picture | |||||
| sean hite | SHN / 0 | View | 13200 | |||
| Notes: | (13200) Garcia: Garcia & Grisman: Ip/II: MAD (ORTF Schoeps CMC34 [cardioids]) > DATs > Wavelab 3.0 M-S Processor @ 24 bits, dithering to 16 bits > master CD > HP 9350i extraction using EAC > patching using Sound Forge Studio 6.0 > tracking using CD Wave > sector boundary alignment using shntool > .shn encoding using mkwACT. | |||||
| sean hite | SHN / 0 | View | 23118 | |||
| Notes: | (23118) Garcia: MAD (Vintage 1950s Neumann KM54s)>Denon DAT deck (model unknown)) > DAT > WAV > SHNv3. Tapers: J.& C. Vasseur. DAT material provided by J.Powell. DAT > SHN by C.Ladner: Sony PCM-R500 > coaxial S/PDIF > M Audio Audiophile 2496 > WAV recording/editing (Soundforge 6) > tracking (cdwav editor) > sector boundaries confirmed (shntool) > SHN (mkwact). Complete source. Clipping and distortion early on. | |||||
| Gary | CDR / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | DAUD [23118] Neumann 257 | |||||
| Joplin R. | DVD / 1 | View | ||||
| Notes: | Partial, Single Cam on Tripod, "PRO-SHOT" probably by J. Kreutzmann. Excellent quality. | |||||
| C. Daniels | DVD / 1 | View | ||||
| crozier | FUJI / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | MAD (Vintage 1950s Neumann 257s)>Denon DAT deck (model unknown)) > DAT > WAV > SHNv3. Tapers: J.& C. Vasseur. DAT material provided by J.Powell. DAT > SHN by C.Ladner: Sony PCM-R500 > coaxial S/PDIF > M Audio Audiophile 2496 > WAV recording/editing (Soundforge 6) > tracking (cdwav editor) > sector boundaries confirmed (shntool) > SHN (mkwact). | |||||
| Jon | DVD / 1 | View | ||||
| Notes: | Single Cam | |||||
| Gratefulmjh | / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | low volume AUD | |||||
| Voodoochild137 | DVD / 0 | A+ | A+ | View | ||
| Zeke Strober | DVD / 1 | A | A | View | ||
| Rudolf E. Zielinski | CDR / 2 | A+ | View | AUD | ||
| katy miller | cdr / 1 | View | ||||
| Notes: | A:?>?>CD IIp+e | |||||
| KAS | / 0 | View | ||||
| Notes: | DVD 5 | |||||
| K Snyder | shn / 1 | View | ||||
| Bruce O'Neil | shn / 0 | View | 23118 | aud | ||
| Notes: | jg+dg91-12-07.vasseur-neumann.misSHN.23118.sbeok.shnf | |||||
| Bruce O'Neil | shn / 0 | View | 13200 | aud | ||
| Notes: | jg+dg91-12-07.schoeps.cohen-jupille.13200.sbeok.shnf | |||||
| Phishrman27 | DVD / 2 | View | AUD | |||
| Phishrman27 | FLAC / 2 | View | 23118 | MAD | ||
| John Gibbs | DVD / 1 | View | Pro Shot G SPOT SAYS Audio Codec MPEG-1 Layer 2 Audio Bitrate: 224 kb/s tot , Stereo... | |||
| Notes: | Partial Pro Shot | |||||
| Jeff Williams | DVD / 1 | View | Pro Shot DVD | |||
| Notes: | Audio Codec MPEG-1 Layer 2 Audio Bitrate: 224 kb/s tot , Stereo Video System: NTSC 29.97 fps Video Bitrate: 6121 kbps INC | |||||
| Fleahman | CDR / 2 | A | View | 13200 | ||
| Ryan Polansky | cdr / 2 | A- | View | 23118 | MAD (Vintage 1950s Neumann 257s)>Denon DAT deck (model unknown)) > DAT > WAV > SHNv3 | |
| Notes: | Some intrusive audience noise at times, but too good of a show to pass up | |||||
| quinnster | cdr / 2 | View | ||||
| Matthew Smith | SHN / 1 | A+ | View | MAD > subsequent DAT stages > master CD | ||
| Chuck Gannon | SHN / 1 | View | 13200 | Schoeps CMC34>MAD>SoundForge>SHN | ||
| Jason Maneval | SHN / 2 | View | 23118 | |||
| Jon Paulk | shn / 2 | View | 13200 | MAD (ORTF Schoeps CMC34 [cardioids]) > DATs > Wavelab 3.0 M-S Processor @ 24 bits,... | ||
| Tom | .SHN / 1 | View | MAD (ORTF Schoeps CMC34 [cardioids]) > DATs > Wavelab 3.0 M-SProcessor @ 24 bits, dithering... | |||
| Notes: | Garcia & Grisman Warfield Theater San Francisco, CA 12/7/91 Ip/II MAD (ORTF Schoeps CMC34 [cardioids]) > DATs > Wavelab 3.0 M-S Processor @ 24 bits, dithering to 16 bits > master CD > HP 9350i extraction using EAC > patching using Sound Forge Studio 6.0 > tracking using CD Wave > sector boundary alignment using shntool > .shn encoding using mkwACT. M-S processing by Dave Cohen. EAC > SHN by Joe Jupille. Disc One (5) 23:58 --Set I-- 01. Jack-A-Roe [5:06] [0:27] 02. Spring in California [5:11] [0:15] 03. Grateful Dawg [3:39] [0:16] 04. Louis Collins [5:17] [1:00] 05. Off To Sea Once More// [2:44#] (missing Friend Of The Devil) (missing Oh The Wind And Rain) (missing Arabia) Disc Two (12) 69:54 --Set II-- 01. //Shady Grove [#3:29] [0:07] 02. When First Unto This Country [4:08] [0:24] 03. I'm Troubled [3:38] [1:24] 04. Sweet Sunny South (1) [3:37] [1:55] 05. The Thrill Is Gone [5:27] [0:15] 06. So What? [7:28] [0:36] 07. Sitting Here In Limbo [6:56] [1:03] 08. Old Rockin' Chair [8:07] [0:19] 09. Red Rocking Chair [3:55] [0:16] 10. Never Seen Nobody Like You [3:26] [0:04] 11. God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen [8:29] [0:26] --Encore-- 12. Ripple [4:07] [0:07] Flaws: d1t01 Jack-A-Roe digi-flit @ 0:39 d1t05 Off to Sea Once More digi-static @ end, just before cut d1t05 Off to Sea Once More cuts out, most missing d2t01 Shady Grove cuts in, not much missing Notes: (1) Garcia and Grisman on banjo I have come across two partial copies of this show. The first is the end of set II, consisting of Sweet Sunny South through Ripple, with cuts at the end of Never Seen Nobody Like You and at the beginning of God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen. It came to me as deriving from a DAT sbd master. It sounds nice, but is a bit flat and unbalanced. I am not even sure it is a sbd, as I can occasionally hear mics being adjusted (though these could be stage mics). The second contains the first half of set I (through Off to Sea Once More, which cuts out) and all of set II (Shady Grove and Never Seen Nobody Like you cut in). It came to me reliably as a MAD > subsequent DAT stages > master CD (mine). I have chosen to use the "sbd" material only for patching the cut before Never Seen Nobody like you. This was done using Sound Forge Studio 6.0, which was also used to smooth the cuts out of Off to Sea Once More and into Shady Grove. This is my first stab at patching, so I apologize if the results are abrupt! Hopefully getting this out there might bring forth a complete copy of this wonderful show. Come out, come out, wherever you are! | |||||
| Kevin Tobin Videos | DVD / 1 | Yes | View | Pro-shot clips | ||
| Notes: | From Matt Z. - never been seeded. Unlike the version seeded at LL on 1/11/08, the bit rate is higher and the audio is LPCM wave vice ac3 on the seeded version | |||||
| Kevin Tobin Videos | DVD5 / 1 | Yes | View | single camera pro-shot with sbd (ac3) audio feed | ||
| Notes: | unknown production - seeded on LL 1/11/08 LL Set 1 and seeded on TTD 10/11/07 TTD Seeding | |||||
| joe m | DVD / 1 | View | Pro Shot, PARTIAL | |||
| Doug | / 0 | A+ | View | |||
| Notes: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOUqEqxtUJE | |||||
| Alex Bushe | DVD / 1 | View | tripod | |||
| Notes: | shot by Justin Kreutzmann from front of balcony | |||||
| Carl | DVD-R / 1 | View | see notes | |||
| Notes: | Pro Shot Audio Codec MPEG-1 Layer 2 Audio Bitrate: 224 kb/s tot , Stereo Video System: NTSC 29.97 fps Video Bitrate: 6121 kbps | |||||
| steve | CDR / 2 | View | ||||
| Gibson_SG | shn / 0 | View | 23118 | |||
| Alex Shapiro | CDR / 2 | View | MAD (ORTF Schoeps CMC34 [cardioids]) > DAT | |||
| Alex Shapiro | CDR / 2 | View | 13200 | MAD (ORTF Schoeps CMC34 [cardioids]) > DATs > Wavelab 3.0 M-S Processor @ 24 bits,... | ||
| Tom Conklin | DVD / 1 | View | ||||
| Notes: | aud-shot only includes: Off To Sea Once More, FOTD, Arabia, Oh The Wind And The Rain, Sitting In Limbo, God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen, and Ripple | |||||
| Barry Smith | CDR / 2 | View | ||||
| Drew Whorley | / 3 | View | ||||
| Notes: | shn | |||||
| Drew Whorley | / 3 | View | ||||
| Notes: | shn | |||||
| Steven Kotelniski | DVD / 1 | A+ | A+ | View | ||
| Notes: | Fan shot. Incomplete. | |||||
| Nick | CD-R / 2 | A | View | |||
| CricKeT | DVD / 1 | View | Said to be ProShot, but is not. | |||
| Notes: | This was seeded by Dylan over at Traders Den. This is the low grade version. High grade Version Not For Trade. | |||||
| Jeff Salmon | CDR / 2 | A- | View | |||
| Notes: | MAD(vintage 1950's Neumann 257s)>Denon DAT>DAT>WAV>SHNv3 | |||||
| JMB | DAT / 1 | View | AU->D->P->D | |||
| Notes: | B&K 4011 or Shoepps Partial set I, encore missing | |||||
| kindkesey | wav / 2 | View | ||||
| Jeff Martinson | CDR/SHN / 2 | A | A | View | MAD (ORTF Schoeps CMC34 [cardioids]) > DATs > Wavelab 3.0 M-S | |
| Notes: | MAD (ORTF Schoeps CMC34 [cardioids]) > DATs > Wavelab 3.0 M-S Processor @ 24 bits, dithering to 16 bits > master CD > HP 9350i extraction using EAC > patching using Sound Forge Studio 6.0 > tracking using CD Wave > sector boundary alignment using shntool >==1p+2--shn achived+audio | |||||
| Matt | CD / 2 | A | A- | View | Bit Torrent | |
| Greg Cohoon | SHN / 2 | View | 23118 | |||
| Notes: | 2 SHN, 2 CDA | |||||
| ravenspace | shn / 1 | View | 13200 | |||
| Robert Babula | / 2 | View | MAD (Vintage 1950s Neumann 257s)>Denon DAT deck (model unknown)) > DAT > WAV > SHNv3. | |||
| Notes: | First public performance of "Arabia". First 'Sitting In Limbo' in nearly a decade. | |||||
| Brian Hedden | CD-R / 2 | A | A | View | MAD (Vintage 1950s Neumann 257s)>Denon DAT deck (model unknown)) > DAT > WAV > SHNv3 | |
| Scott S | SHN / 2 | View | 13200 | |||
| Jeff Warren | Shn / 0 | A | A | View | ||
| Shawnee | DVD / 1 | View | ||||
| Notes: | Partial | |||||
| Canyon | DVD / 1 | View | DVD | |||
| Notes: | 7 *incomplete show* | |||||
| RM's Giant Live Music Archive | DVD / 0 | View | NTSC Pro-Shot video (C145 & L040) | |||
| Notes: | Audio Codec MPEG-1 Layer 2 Audio Bitrate: 224 kb/s tot , Stereo Video System: NTSC 29.97 fps Video Bitrate: 6121 kbps | |||||
| Adam Dwyer | shn / 1 | View | 13200 | |||
| Michael McMullan | CDR/FLAC / 2 | A- | View | 23118 | Aud | |
| michael Ferguson | SHN / 1 | View | 13200 | |||
| Dan Goorsky | shn / 2 | A | A | View | ||
| Notes: | missing three tunes off first disc | |||||
| William Ferdinandsen | CDR / 2 | View | ||||
| Chris | shn / 2 | View | 23118 | |||
| TedK | cdr / 2 | View | ||||
| Eric Laskey | Fuji / 2 | A | View | DAUD | ||
| Michael Goff | cd / 1 | View | 13200 | |||
| Notes: | garcia dvd#32 | |||||
| Dan Faust | cdr / 2 | A | View | MAD (Vintage 1950s Neumann 257s)>Denon DAT deck (model unknown)) > DAT > WAV > SHNv3. | ||
| quimbo | FLAC / 0 | View | 13200 | |||
| quimbo | FLAC / 0 | View | 23118 | |||
| Geoff MacNaughton | 2 / 2 | B+ | View | 13200 | ||
| Geoff MacNaughton | 2 / 2 | C+ | View | 23118 | ||
| John Peters | SHN / 1 | View | 23118 | Neumann KM54s: DAT (unknown Denon DAT deck) > DAT > Sony PCM-R500 > coaxial S/PDIF > M Audio... | ||
| thegreatdivide6 | DVD / 0 | View | pro shot | |||
| Notes: | DVD | |||||
| Carter | CDR / 2 | View | ||||
| Phil | CD/R / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | in SHN format on DVD | |||||
| Rick Childs | CDR / 2 | A++ | A++ | View | 23118 | |
| Notes: | Garcia & Grisman 12/07/1991 Warfield Theater San Francisco, CA MAD (Vintage 1950s Neumann 257s)>Denon DAT deck (model unknown)) > DAT > WAV > SHNv3. Tapers: J.& C. Vasseur. DAT material provided by J.Powell. DAT > SHN by C.Ladner: Sony PCM-R500 > coaxial S/PDIF > M Audio Audiophile 2496 > WAV recording/editing (Soundforge 6) > tracking (cdwav editor) > sector boundaries confirmed (shntool) > SHN (mkwact). Disc 1 - Set 1 01 Jack-A-Roe [05:33] 02 Spring in California [05:27] 03 Grateful Dawg [03:57] 04 Louis Collins [06:18] 05 Off To Sea Once More [05:58] 06 Friend Of The Devil [07:49] 07 Oh The Wind And Rain [05:41] 08 Arabia [16:24] Total time: 57:08 Disc Two - Set 2 01 Shady Grove [03:34] 02 When First Unto This Country [04:31] 03 I'm Troubled [05:12] 04 Sweet Sunny South [07:12] 05 The Thrill Is Gone [05:20] 06 So What? [08:03] 07 Sitting Here In Limbo [07:59] 08 Old Rockin' Chair [08:22] 09 Red Rocking Chair [04:12] 10 Never Seen Nobody Like You [03:34] 11 God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen [09:31] Encore 12 Ripple [04:29] Total time: 72:03 Comments: First public performance of "Arabia". First 'Sitting In Limbo' in nearly a decade. There were some major problems with clipping and distortion early on during the first set as the levels were set very high on the master. Because of the degree of distortion, I spliced the first 26 seconds of the first track from the previous seeded source. Early on there is some fairly loud close up yelping/noise. I went through and selectively attenuated regions of clipping and also the intermittent yelping and whooping using Soundforge 6, but it still is at times annoyingly loud. First note or two of Shady Grove is clipped. Word has it that it is also the first Garcia recording by Chuck and Janet Vasseur. It appears that the Neumann model used were 257s. Reviewing the Neumann website I can't find reference to this microphone number (i see 254s-256s), but these were apparently used for all of the Vasseur's audience recordings, so i need to update the db. Portions of this performance are featured in the film "Grateful Dawg". If you do not have this, GET IT by all means. The emotional kick in the gut you will feel from scene 1 take 1 with Jerry on stage at the Warfield alone is worth the price and will bring it all right back. misSHN 3/04. | |||||
| x poordevil | DVD ProA+ / 1 | View | Pro shot DVD | |||
| aikox2 | / 0 | View | ||||
| Notes: | DVD PRO. Seven-song excerpt. | |||||
| mike | DVD / 1 | View | Partial sets *filmed by Justin Kreutzman* | |||
| Notes: | Audience Shot> Low Gen VHS > SA > DVD Off to Sea Once More FOTD Oh the Wind and the Rain Arabia Sitting in Limbo God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen Ripple | |||||
| Dave | / 1 | View | ||||
| Notes: | DVD | |||||
| SpiralLightofVenus | DVD / 0 | AUD | View | |||
| Notes: | DVD AUD TB5 | |||||
| Mark Diamond | / 2 | View | 23118 | |||
| Jim | DVD / 1 | View | partial set | |||
| Notes: | Off to Sea Once More - FOTD - Arabia - Oh the Wind and the Rain - Sitting in Limbo - God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen - Ripple | |||||
| Curtis Ensler | DVD / 1 | View | ||||
| Notes: | ens of Set 1 and Encore | |||||
| Jerry Jacobsen | DVD-R / 1 | A | View | |||
| Notes: | Incomplete show: Off To Sea Once More, FOTD, Arabia, Oh The Wind And The Rain, Sitting In Limbo, God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen, and Ripple | |||||
| STLBlues | DVD / 1 | A+ | A+ | View | Pro-Single-Cam (4:3) > Unknown Recording > DVD5 > VOB Merge 2.5 > DVD Lab PRO 2.0... | |
| Notes: | Pro-Single-Cam (Tripod) - LPCM sbd/aud Matrix Audio - Partial Show Only (54 minutes) | |||||
| STLBlues | DVD dts5.1 / 1 | A | A | View | Pro-Single-Cam - click on "view" for complete details | |
| Notes: | Pro-Shot - DTS 5.1 Audio - 54 minutes | |||||
| Maria Reine | DVD / 1 | View | ||||
| Notes: | NTSC, pro shot. DVD[max500p] | |||||
| artisgilmore | D5 / 1 | View | ||||
| Jeff | DVD / 1 | View | unknown | |||
| Notes: | DV402 Garcia & Grisman 12-7-91 Warfield Theater San Francisco Ca Pro Shot G SPOT SAYS Audio Codec MPEG-1 Layer 2 Audio Bitrate: 224 kb/s tot , Stereo Video System: NTSC 29.97 fps Video Bitrate: 6121 kbps Off to Sea Once More FOTD Arabia Oh the Wind and the Rain Sitting in Limbo GOd Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen Ripple f90c6e7c4138f4abcfb8255456ebe646 *g&g.txt c3dc76a17eb1eb7425159e93b900aee3 *VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP c3dc76a17eb1eb7425159e93b900aee3 *VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO 666cb0df9051eb96bc6319e3d4d0eddc *VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.BUP 666cb0df9051eb96bc6319e3d4d0eddc *VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO 9d4f29a5fe4a07decfa994c6379d972e *VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB f9ea3099c42f0422a86e684050d0cc16 *VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB a81ce60e5ef7a5caab513c4d8de3c7f6 *VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB downloaded from: http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46856 | |||||
| taperBWeed | / 2 | View | 23118 | MAD (Vintage 1950s Neumann 257s)>Denon DAT deck (model unknown)) > DAT > WAV > SHNv3. | ||
| earthscapeben | DVD / 1 | View | Pro Shot | |||
| Notes: | Pro Shot | |||||
| Ruby Tuesday | DVD / 1 | View | ||||
| Notes: | Partial show, pro shot | |||||
| denance | shn / 0 | View | 13200 | |||
| denance | shn / 2 | View | 23118 | |||
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