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The Other Ones 08/03/2002

Alpine Valley Music Theatre, East Troy, WI
SHNID 11279
Source Summary
Source: FOB/DFC Schoeps MK4>KC5>CMC6>Apogee AD-1000>Sony D7 (48khz); Mics run ORTF @ 6' High from Section 202 row AA Seat 125 - Transfer: D8>Prodif Plus>Samplitude 5.5>CDwav>MKWact>SHN(v3); Taped/Transferred/Seeded bt: Mike Fischer (Phishsdank@aol.com)
Entered by Steve Swartz
Checksums shn-md5, st5
Disc Counts 2 / 3
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
08/08/02
08/13/2002
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Archive Identifier too2002-08-03.schoeps.fischer.11279.shnf ↗

Other Sources
SHNID 11446 Source: FM>Sony mini disc (used only to convert...
SHNID 13876 STAGE MICROPHONES > SEPARATE MIXING CONSOLE AT...
SHNID 14251 STAGE MICROPHONES > SEPARATE MIXING CONSOLE AT...
SHNID 100660 Tapers Section, Lawn Unknown mics > Unknown...
SHNID 113315 Source: Sennheiser 441>Teac DAT>Sony D8>DAT...
SHNID 154683 Flac16 Nak.cm300 w/cp-4 shotgun caps.>Sony...
SHNID 176309 Flac1644 Broadcast Mix > DAT > AIFF (44.1k)...
The Other Ones
August 3, 2002
Terrapin Station - Alpine Valley
East Troy, WI



Source:    FOB/DFC Schoeps MK4>KC5>CMC6>Apogee AD-1000>Sony D7 (48khz)
           Mics run ORTF @ 6' High from Section 202 row AA Seat 125

Transfer: D8>Prodif Plus>Samplitude 5.5>CDwav>MKWact>SHN(v3)

Taped/Transferred/Seeded bt: Mike Fischer (Phishsdank@aol.com)

Disc 1

Set 1
1.  Intro >
2.  Cryptical Envelopement@ >
3.  The Other One >
4.  Feels Like a Stranger
5.  Bird Song
6.  Lazy Lightning / Supplication
7.  Iko Iko >

Disc 2

Set 1

1.  Estimated Prophet* >
2.  Casey Jones

Set 2
3.  The Music Never Stopped
4.  Baba Jingo
5.  China Cat Sunflower >
6.  I Know You Rider

Disc 3

Set 2 (cont)
1.  Morning Dew
2.  Dark Star V1 >
3.  Born Cross Eyed >
4.  Dark Star V2 >
5.  Cryptical Reprise
6.  One More Saturday Night
Encore
7.  Help On the Way >
8.  Slipknot! >
9.  Franklins Tower


@ with He's Gone Tease

*Music gets quiet, because the guys whos seats we were taping at got all pissed at us,
and finally made us move our gear being dicks!  We told them that we would move
at set break, but they were just asses!!  Moved to row BB, seat 124.
Fischer


Comments

Date: 08/13/2002
User: jb
They weren't being dicks, you were. Of course everybody here wants the best possible recording of every show, but that does NOT give you a God-given right to steal people's seats willy-nilly if they don't want you there. Not everybody is a taper, and just because you are doesn't give you the right to ruin someone's show who is not.
Date: 08/13/2002
User: Forbin
True dat. Taper must be a Phish-head Love Phish, but that type of seat-stealing chit-me first attitude (EVEN if you're a taper) was out of control the last couple years at shows (the chit I saw at Shoreline 10/7 was deplorable...people literally standing in front of others in the reserved section and not willing to move). Above all, people, respect others. Good day.
Date: 08/13/2002
The "Intro" on first disc is before the band came onstage, then major static/distortion, then TOO warming up. No need for the preshow/distortion part. The beginning of Music also has like 2 minutes of useless crowd noise. Tracking is a bit weird too.
Date: 08/13/2002
the 8-4-02 schoeps is superior to this seed, save yerself the time and wait for the FM-SBD to start circulating :-)
Date: 08/13/2002
User: darryl
is it just me or is the piano a little overbearing and the drums are almost non-existant? i am downloading the FM source right now but havent had a chance to listen to any of it. hopefully the mix is better, too bad it has an MD generation!
-darryl.
Date: 08/13/2002
User: dms
disc 3 track 09 needs sector boundary corrected...

C:\shn\too2002-08-03.shnf>shntool len *.shn
length expanded size cdr WAVE probs filename
2:22.05 25060604 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d1t01.shn
12:19.19 130404332 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d1t02.shn
7:05.22 75021788 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d1t03.shn
9:02.12 95637068 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d1t04.shn
12:15.60 129795164 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d1t05.shn
10:25.42 110348828 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d1t06.shn
10:08.63 107399420 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d1t07.shn
12:00.27 127071548 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d2t01.shn
6:22.16 67422476 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d2t02.shn
14:11.73 150288140 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d2t03.shn
10:10.19 107648732 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d2t04.shn
9:15.08 97920860 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d2t05.shn
8:12.68 86948780 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d2t06.shn
12:03.05 127549004 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d3t01.shn
13:46.28 145772300 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d3t02.shn
6:01.74 63854492 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d3t03.shn
5:27.20 57729884 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d3t04.shn
1:44.71 18512636 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d3t05.shn
5:50.04 61749452 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d3t06.shn
4:13.52 44751548 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d3t07.shn
8:38.37 91462268 --- -- -xx too2002-08-03d3t08.shn
10:50.12 114688696 -b- -- -xx too2002-08-03d3t09.shn
192:27.62 2037038020 B (totals for 22 files)
Date: 08/13/2002
User: shnaholic
the md in the lineage for the otherones fm 8-3-02 is just a/d conversion...there was nothing recorded by the md and thusly no md compression on the signal, just analog to digital conversion.
Date: 08/29/2002
User: astrnmyd
I must agree with the taper in this situation. The guys whose seats they were stood right by the tapers and never said anything until estimated. I know they were their seats but they couldn't wait for the set end. You can hear the taper say "can you please wait to the end of the set?" I mean, from what i heard the tapers were trying to be polite. It's not like the guys were forced to sit on the back of the lawn. There was five feet of difference. Also, don't assume because someone likes phish they are automatically a dickhead. I think everyone could have been happy if they would have waited 15 mins. Just my humble opinion.
Date: 08/30/2002
User: Rob
My comments regarding this .shn is that it sounds fantastic! I'm sure the FM will be most everyone preference, But besides the part when they had to move the stand. This seed is very nice. If you have ever tried to tape at Alpine you'd know it's hard to pull a decent tape from the lawn. The shape of the pavillion area puts the sound out to the Taper's section on the lawn in a very uneven mix. So at Alpine FOB is the way to go.Yes, I am a taper. But I always do the section. But some times you need to go FOB and Alpine is one of those places.