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Grateful Dead 02/11/1986

Henry J. Kaiser Convention Center, Oakland, CA
SHNID 11716
Source Summary
Updated Source Info: SBD> Cassette Master DAT> CD; Seeded to etree by Willy; note see user comments re pre-emphasis (or not)
Entered by Gary Field
Checksums shn-md5, st5
Disc Counts 2 / 2
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
08/28/02
11/09/2004
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Archive Identifier gd86-02-11.sbd.munder.11716.sbeok.shnf ↗

Other Sources
SHNID 74961 flac16 ; Schoeps CMC 441 (hypercardioids) >...
SHNID 117261 flac16 ; Recording Info: SBD -> Cassette...
SHNID 117263 flac24 ; Recording Info: SBD -> Cassette...
SHNID 117797 flac16 ; Matrix of SBD (shnid=117263) and AUD...
SHNID 117798 flac24 ; 24 Bit Matrix at 96 kHz Rate of SBD...
SHNID 119363 flac24 ; Master Audience Recorded By Mr....
SHNID 119364 flac16 ; Master Audience Recorded By Mr....
SHNID 135519 flac16 ; Set 2 Recording Info: SBD -> PCM ->...
SHNID 169566 flac1648 ; Source Info: Steve Marcus' Master...
SHNID 169567 flac2496 ; Source Info: Steve Marcus' Master...
SHNID 171800 flac16/48 DTS Audio 5.1 Mix - BD (shnid =...
SHNID 171806 flac24/48 2 Source Matrix Mix - SBD (shnid...
SHNID 171879 flac24/48 2 Source Matrix Mix (fixed) - SBD...
SHNID 171961 flac16/48 5.1 LPCM Surround Sound (48k) -...
Grateful Dead
Henry J. Kaiser Convention Center
Oakland, CA
February 11, 1986

Updated Source Info: SBD> Cassette Master> DAT> CD
(Had been marked: SBD>PCM>DAT>CD)

DISC ONE

1st Set

China Cat>
Rider
Minglewood
Dupree's
Me And My Uncle>
Mexicali
Bird Song>
Music Never Stopped>
Might As Well

DISC TWO

2nd Set

Drums*>
Aiko Aiko*
Eyes Of The World*>
Drums*>
Space>
Truckin'>
Stella Blue>
Not Fade Away

Encore

Not Fade Away*>
Hey Bo Diddley*>
Goin' Down The Road*

Notes-

*With members of The Neville Brothers
-First (and only) Hey Bo Diddley since 8-22-72

-I used CD Wave and Shntool to retrack and verify sb's, and CE2K for all editing.

EAC/SHN by Willy
_willy_@junkiesplace.com
Seeded to etree 08/28/02

Comments

Date: 08/28/2002
User: darrin
Another PCM-sourced show -- Listening tests should be conducted to determine whether these shns have pre-emphasis applied and need to be burned with the emphasis flag set for each track.


A recording with pre-emphasis encoded, but not decoded will sound artificially bright (similar to how a cassette recorded with dolby, but played back without dolby would sound).


Feurio! allows one to manually set emphasis flags when burning disks.


Subcode information regarding whether pre-emphasis was initially applied (it's applied before the initial a>d and de-emphasis is applied after d>a if the subcode's present) is LOST when a pcm/dat/cdr is converted to a wav.


If anybody does conduct this experiment on this or on any other PCM-sourced show, PLEASE post your results so others may benefit :)
Date: 11/07/2004
User: C Miller
This source sounds very nice. There doesn't seem to be the pre-emphasis that is common on other PCM mastered recordings.
Date: 11/09/2004
User: Diana
I earlier wrote into the comments field above, "note wavs have pre-emphasis, so files should ideally be burned to audio with PRE flag set (see user comments)" but at this point I don't remember if I had found that as a fact for this one (I had tested a couple PCM sources burned +/- flags at the time of Darrin's post), or just wrongly misconstrued on this one from Darrin's comments. So I'll take that out now.
Date: 11/09/2004
User: darrin
fyi, I have not listened to this show.
Date: 01/10/2007
User: btet
Just doing a quick listen I'm hearing very bright cymbals and guitar. Not sure if that's the result of pre-emphasis or not. I'll try to get ahold of Jay's source and compare the two.
Date: 05/16/2011
This sounds like a cassette to me.
Date: 10/19/2011
I just gave this a good listening to and can confirm that it is from a cassette. There's too much hiss for it to be a PCM. Plus there is a tape flip which was smoothed out at about 40 minutes into the first set, and another one in the 2nd set.
Date: 11/23/2011
Can one of the admins note that this is from a cassette master in the description?

I'm about to circulate multiple sbd sources and this info being listed as a PCM source is going to confuse things.
Date: 12/14/2011
Updated source info.