Grateful Dead 08/22/1968
Fillmore West, San Francisco, CA
Source Summary
SBD>MR>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN; (two cassette sources, one in mono, one in stereo); see info file regarding confusion over this date; Thanks to David(s) Litfin, Sorochty, Gans, et al; edits/encoding JCotsman
SBD>MR>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN; (two cassette sources, one in mono, one in stereo); see info file regarding confusion over this date; Thanks to David(s) Litfin, Sorochty, Gans, et al; edits/encoding JCotsman
Other Sources
SHNID 20083 SBD portion via Jools, see info file for...
SHNID 92733 flac16 ; Source: Soundboard Reels > ? > DAT...
SHNID 143144 flac16/48kHz ; Source: Soundboard 2 track...
Grateful Dead
8-22-68
Fillmore West,
San Francisco
source 1: SBD>MR>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN (mono)
source 2: SBD>MR>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN (stereo)
source 1 provides everything except the Alligator->WBYGN portion
Disc 1 (26:38)
set 1:
1. //St. Stephen--> (4:25)
2. The Eleven--> (13:50)
3. Death Don't Have No Mercy (8:21)
Disc 2 (66:59)
set 2:
1. Dark Star (12:17)
2. Cryptical Envelopment--> (1:50)
3. The Other One%--> (4:01)
4. Cryptical Envelopment--> (6:20)
5. New Potato Caboose (13:15)
6. Alligator--> (3:26)
7. Drums--> (5:38)
8. Jam--> (9:27)
9. Caution--> (5:47)
10. Feedback%--> (3:49)
11. We Bid You Goodnight (1:05)
Notes:
--splice at 3:41 in The Other One
--several minor blemishes during the stereo portion of the show
--minor splice at 0:06 in Feedback
--Sound Forge was used for some minor edits, including a slight pitch correction for an excerpt and to fix a brief repeat during The Eleven.
The Confusion:
There has been a great deal of confusion regarding the date of 8-22-68, and this shn set still has several uncertain elements. Maybe some of this info can help:
--"source 1" (mono), has circulated fairly commonly under "8-22-68", though the Alligator that accompanies that recording is actually the version from 8-21-68. Still, there is no certainty that this material covering Stephen through New Potato is from 8-22. It does not match any other circulating material, though, and the intro from Bill Graham clearly places this at the Fillmore. Furthermore, this show may circulate with Dark Star as the opener, as it follows the Bill Graham intro. However, Bill Graham introduced the band at the start of each set in those days, so I've kept Dark Star where it was on my copy, in position to start the 2nd set.
--"source 2" is in stereo, and has been dated as 8-22-68 from David Gans. This portion often circulates following an alternate mix of the material that would make up "Two From The Vault" (8-24-68).
Other bits of reference:
--Phil's bass is out of tune during New Potato on 8-22, unlike the phenominal 8-24 version
--the Alligator from 8-21 differs as it does not segue into Caution
--the Alligator/Caution from 8-23 differs in that it does not segue into WBYG after Feedback
--the minor cut in Feedback on 8-22 may be disguised on some copies
Lastly, this probably isn't the end of confusion for 8-22, but as of Jan '03, it's a best guess
part of The Music Never Stopped Project 2003
Thanks to David Litfin, David Sorochty, David Gans, Seth Kaplan, and anyone else who helped explain anything
edits/encoding by JCotsman
8-22-68
Fillmore West,
San Francisco
source 1: SBD>MR>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN (mono)
source 2: SBD>MR>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN (stereo)
source 1 provides everything except the Alligator->WBYGN portion
Disc 1 (26:38)
set 1:
1. //St. Stephen--> (4:25)
2. The Eleven--> (13:50)
3. Death Don't Have No Mercy (8:21)
Disc 2 (66:59)
set 2:
1. Dark Star (12:17)
2. Cryptical Envelopment--> (1:50)
3. The Other One%--> (4:01)
4. Cryptical Envelopment--> (6:20)
5. New Potato Caboose (13:15)
6. Alligator--> (3:26)
7. Drums--> (5:38)
8. Jam--> (9:27)
9. Caution--> (5:47)
10. Feedback%--> (3:49)
11. We Bid You Goodnight (1:05)
Notes:
--splice at 3:41 in The Other One
--several minor blemishes during the stereo portion of the show
--minor splice at 0:06 in Feedback
--Sound Forge was used for some minor edits, including a slight pitch correction for an excerpt and to fix a brief repeat during The Eleven.
The Confusion:
There has been a great deal of confusion regarding the date of 8-22-68, and this shn set still has several uncertain elements. Maybe some of this info can help:
--"source 1" (mono), has circulated fairly commonly under "8-22-68", though the Alligator that accompanies that recording is actually the version from 8-21-68. Still, there is no certainty that this material covering Stephen through New Potato is from 8-22. It does not match any other circulating material, though, and the intro from Bill Graham clearly places this at the Fillmore. Furthermore, this show may circulate with Dark Star as the opener, as it follows the Bill Graham intro. However, Bill Graham introduced the band at the start of each set in those days, so I've kept Dark Star where it was on my copy, in position to start the 2nd set.
--"source 2" is in stereo, and has been dated as 8-22-68 from David Gans. This portion often circulates following an alternate mix of the material that would make up "Two From The Vault" (8-24-68).
Other bits of reference:
--Phil's bass is out of tune during New Potato on 8-22, unlike the phenominal 8-24 version
--the Alligator from 8-21 differs as it does not segue into Caution
--the Alligator/Caution from 8-23 differs in that it does not segue into WBYG after Feedback
--the minor cut in Feedback on 8-22 may be disguised on some copies
Lastly, this probably isn't the end of confusion for 8-22, but as of Jan '03, it's a best guess
part of The Music Never Stopped Project 2003
Thanks to David Litfin, David Sorochty, David Gans, Seth Kaplan, and anyone else who helped explain anything
edits/encoding by JCotsman
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Date: 02/06/2003
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Joe Samaritano
How much of the beginning of St. Stephen is clipped on this? Also where is the Other One splice?...I know it says 3:41, but mine is on Dat with no track times. A vocal or musical cue would be good.
When I saw this on etree, I pulled my Dat and the entire St. Stephen is in tact except for the pre-song tuning and I don't hear a splice in the Other One.
The sound is really good and the stated lineage is Master Reel Soundboard, Healy digital re-master for possible TFTV release (which, of course, ended up being 8/24).
When I saw this on etree, I pulled my Dat and the entire St. Stephen is in tact except for the pre-song tuning and I don't hear a splice in the Other One.
The sound is really good and the stated lineage is Master Reel Soundboard, Healy digital re-master for possible TFTV release (which, of course, ended up being 8/24).
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