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Phish 12/05/1997

Convocation Center, Cleveland, OH
SHNID 15663
Source Summary
Schoeps CMC6/mk41 > PSP-2 > SBM-1 > DA-P1; CDR > WAV > SHN; SHN conversion by Mike Woellert
Entered by Matt Vernon
Checksums ffp, md5, st5
Disc Counts 2 / 3
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
<3/6/03
03/06/2003
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Archive Identifier phish1997-12-05.015663.cleveland.mk41.cmc6.flac1644 ↗

Other Sources
SHNID 2460 Schoeps CMC6/mk41 > EAA PSP-2 > SBM-1 > DA-P1;...
SHNID 16621 Microtec Geffel m210 > Oade m248 > SBM-1 >...
SHNID 80764 FOB Schoeps CMC6/mk21 > Sonosax > SV255; HHB...
SHNID 112181 Neumann KM184 > DAT @ 48kHz; Tascam DA-20mkII >...
SHNID 112492 B&K 4011s > Neumann BS48i-2 > Modified Sony...
SHNID 150688 flac16/44.1khz Source:Sony Stereo Mic>Sony...
SHNID 151608 flac16 48kHz Neumann U89 > Sonosax SX-M2 >...
SHNID 165731 flac16 48kHz Neumann KM184 > Beyer MV100 >...
Phish

Cleveland State Convocation Center-Cleveland, OH

12/5/97





Source:  Schoeps CMC6/MK41 > PSP-2 > SBM-1 > DA-P1

Transfer: Unknown at this point





CD > WAV > SHN:  Mike Woellert (DMBnum41@aol.com)

Another gem from the famous fall '97 tour.  This show sounds sweet, and I would love to see

this get spread around.  This is my first seed to etree, so please tell me if there are

any problems.

Enjoy!!!  Etree rocks!





Disc 1:

1. Ghost

2. Wilson

3. Funky Bitch

4. Black-Eyed Katy

5. Sparkle

6. Runaway Jim->

7. My Friend, My Friend

8. Ginseng Sullivan



Disc 2

1. Limb by Limb

2. Character Zero

3. Stash

4. Bouncin' Around the Room

5. Julius

6. Slave to the Traffic Light



Disc 3

1. Lizards

2. Loving Cup

3. Chalkdust Torture

Encore:

4. Bold as Love


Comments

Date: 03/06/2003
User: twatts
http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=2460

Is this a CDR>EAC>SHN of the above source? If so, why did you reseed this show? If it is different, what is the difference?

A problem arises when there are two different SHN sets of the same source - causes confusion. Please read and follow the ETREE seeding guidelines: http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=SeedingGuidelines

"Before you seed a show, please consider this question: Is this the best possible source?"

Terry


Date: 03/06/2003
User: Bix
this one didn't just come out. I've had it for the better part of at least 8 months or so. I noticed they looked similar too. I sent an email to the one who seeded this version and asked him to put up the md5's for those who have his copy. So, a big THANK YOU to him.
Date: 03/09/2003
i was the one who put the source info and md5s up on etree. there are similarities to the two sources, there are definate differences, two different names, subtle differences in the source, different programs used, linage. i dont know why someone would make such changes to the same source. as far as the sound quality, ive listened to this several times before i put it up. no errors as i can tell. id say the quality of sound is above the average etree source. if the average were a C and the best source was rated an A+, id call this a B+. i however am not mike woellert, i recieved this source around summer of 2001.
Date: 03/15/2003
I was the original seeder. At the time, there wasn't a SHN in circualation for the show. This seed did not just come out, as the date says. It's probably been out there for at least a few years. I think a direct DAT > SHN source made it out just before this one. At the time, this was the only source. So I EAC'd and SHN'd it. Actually, I wouldn't even mind if this was taken out of the SHNs in Circ page. The only difference between this one, and http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=2460, is that DAE is performed in mine. So, like I said, this has been out for at least a few years. I've seeded a few shows since then, and if there was already a DAT > SHN at the time, I certainly wouldn't have seeded a CD > EAC > SHN seed. Again, I wouldn't mind if this was taken out of the SHN in Circ. page.
Date: 03/15/2003
The shns-in-circ page I believe isn't supposed to list only the BEST shn's in circulation, but hopefully ALL shn's in circulation. Then comments can be made about source quality etc to help identify the pros/cons of the various seeds. Thanks for posting the info about the history of how this came about, but it should be left on the shns-in-circ page because it is a circulated shn.