Grateful Dead 11/01/1968
Armory Building, Silver Dollar Fairgrounds, Chico, CA
Source Summary
MSR > R > D > CD by Jim Powell EAC > SHN by J.Barnes (heyitsmejess@aol.com) EAC log files are included
MSR > R > D > CD by Jim Powell EAC > SHN by J.Barnes (heyitsmejess@aol.com) EAC log files are included
Other Sources
SHNID 9580 2nd Set; SBD>MSR>C>DAT>CDR; via Raoul Duke and...
SHNID 9965 MSR>C>D>CD; Seeded to etree by Seth Kaplan
SHNID 18100 SBD>MR>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN; patched with "barely...
SHNID 20008 MSR > R > D > CD by Jim Powell EAC > SHN by...
SHNID 131661 flac16 ; This is a restoration/rework using...
SHNID 150968 flac16/44.1khz Recording Info: SBD >...
Grateful Dead
Silver Dollar Fair, Chico 11/1/68
67:10 MSR > R > D > CD > EAC(secure) > SHN
MSR > R > D > CD by Jim Powell
EAC > SHN by J.Barnes (heyitsmejess@aol.com)
EAC log files are included
Intro 0:12
Dark Star > 12:17
Cryptical Envelopment > 1:48
drums > 0:14
The Other One > 10:55
Cryptical Envelopment > 7:06
New Potato Caboose > 0:41
[ > New Potato Caboose# 1:44 *
#Alligator > 2:35 *
drums > 5:05 *
Alligator > 4:39 ] *
Alligator/Caution jam > 12:36
Feedback > 6:01
We Bid You Goodnight 0:45
closing comments 0:32
* severely attenuated signal, useless for music 14:03 total
This tape consists of two segments, the first running for 35:02, from the introduction of the Dead's "last set" through the first 2:21 of New Potato Caboose, and the second starting a couple minutes in to Alligator and running through the end of the set in 32:14.
At 0:41 of New Potato Caboose the strength of the signal falls away severely in both channels, past all recovery and continues in this state for 14:03 before resuming proper strength and continuing for 19:54 to the end of the tape.
I note that Eaton lists for this date
11/01/68 Silver Dollar Fair, Chica Ca - xcerpt
4.9, 055min, Sbd, A0D1, Reel M->Dat 1, 44k,
10inch 8trk Master [EMAIL PROTECTED]>3700 x 0->3700 x 1
After We Bid You Goodnight Phil tells the audience to "Come back next week -- this is a good place."
Latvala played a Viola Lee from this date at one of the Fillmore Dick's Picks Release Parties.
It's not clear to me how all this fits together.
We have mastered both a complete version, including the 14:03 of bad signal, and an edited version, with this segment removed.
Both versions are included in this set.
Silver Dollar Fair, Chico 11/1/68
67:10 MSR > R > D > CD > EAC(secure) > SHN
MSR > R > D > CD by Jim Powell
EAC > SHN by J.Barnes (heyitsmejess@aol.com)
EAC log files are included
Intro 0:12
Dark Star > 12:17
Cryptical Envelopment > 1:48
drums > 0:14
The Other One > 10:55
Cryptical Envelopment > 7:06
New Potato Caboose > 0:41
[ > New Potato Caboose# 1:44 *
#Alligator > 2:35 *
drums > 5:05 *
Alligator > 4:39 ] *
Alligator/Caution jam > 12:36
Feedback > 6:01
We Bid You Goodnight 0:45
closing comments 0:32
* severely attenuated signal, useless for music 14:03 total
This tape consists of two segments, the first running for 35:02, from the introduction of the Dead's "last set" through the first 2:21 of New Potato Caboose, and the second starting a couple minutes in to Alligator and running through the end of the set in 32:14.
At 0:41 of New Potato Caboose the strength of the signal falls away severely in both channels, past all recovery and continues in this state for 14:03 before resuming proper strength and continuing for 19:54 to the end of the tape.
I note that Eaton lists for this date
11/01/68 Silver Dollar Fair, Chica Ca - xcerpt
4.9, 055min, Sbd, A0D1, Reel M->Dat 1, 44k,
10inch 8trk Master [EMAIL PROTECTED]>3700 x 0->3700 x 1
After We Bid You Goodnight Phil tells the audience to "Come back next week -- this is a good place."
Latvala played a Viola Lee from this date at one of the Fillmore Dick's Picks Release Parties.
It's not clear to me how all this fits together.
We have mastered both a complete version, including the 14:03 of bad signal, and an edited version, with this segment removed.
Both versions are included in this set.
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2nd Set; SBD>MSR>C>DAT>CDR;... (0)
MSR>C>D>CD; Seeded to etree... (1)
SBD>MR>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN;... (0)
MSR > R > D > CD by Jim... (3)
flac16 ; This is a... (0)
flac16/44.1khz Recording... (0)
2nd Set; SBD>MSR>C>DAT>CDR;... (0)
MSR>C>D>CD; Seeded to etree... (1)
SBD>MR>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN;... (0)
MSR > R > D > CD by Jim... (3)
flac16 ; This is a... (0)
flac16/44.1khz Recording... (0)
Date: 05/19/2003
User:
jesse barnes
from Jim Powell (sent to deadlists digest volume 4 #77)
The version of 11/1/68 I just put into circulation was transferred from
first gen reels in the collection of one friend, digitized to DAT and then
mastered to CD by another and remastered by a third. It's theoretically
possible there's another generation (or five) before the reel we were
working with, that my source doesn't know about or isn't telling me about,
but this seems highly unlikely. The fact that this version has the missing
minutes of bad fidelity itself tends to confirm the idea that this is
another lineage.
The version of 11/1/68 I just put into circulation was transferred from
first gen reels in the collection of one friend, digitized to DAT and then
mastered to CD by another and remastered by a third. It's theoretically
possible there's another generation (or five) before the reel we were
working with, that my source doesn't know about or isn't telling me about,
but this seems highly unlikely. The fact that this version has the missing
minutes of bad fidelity itself tends to confirm the idea that this is
another lineage.
Date: 02/28/2008
User:
SteveSw
My version of this source has two directories, "edited" and "unedited". The "edited" version matches the fingerprint here. The "unedited" version, on the other hand, does not. The problem is with track 5, natch. The info file included with my "unedited" version describes an edit:
Lineage: MSR > R > D > CD > EAC (secure) > SHN
Track 5a: MSR > R > D > CD > EAC (secure) > SHN > WAV > Cool Edit 2000 > SHN
MSR > R > D > CD by Jim Powell
EAC > SHN by J.Barnes
Track 5a edited by Seth Kaplan
and then later I have this comment:
Additional note:
Attenuated signal sequence (track 5a) was initially almost
completely inaudible. Both channels were subsequently run
through Cool Edit 2000 and amplified 40 db including reduction
of some degree of hiss and removal of several artifacts result-
ing in a fairly listenable segment.
"unedited" MD5: f8d76af9c3ba8bbe746a647ed0ad53c6 *Track05.shn
My Md5: c841c624b8b8c16c621405568dcfa9ae *Track05a.shn
My question is, is that seth kaplan edit in common circulation?
Lineage: MSR > R > D > CD > EAC (secure) > SHN
Track 5a: MSR > R > D > CD > EAC (secure) > SHN > WAV > Cool Edit 2000 > SHN
MSR > R > D > CD by Jim Powell
EAC > SHN by J.Barnes
Track 5a edited by Seth Kaplan
and then later I have this comment:
Additional note:
Attenuated signal sequence (track 5a) was initially almost
completely inaudible. Both channels were subsequently run
through Cool Edit 2000 and amplified 40 db including reduction
of some degree of hiss and removal of several artifacts result-
ing in a fairly listenable segment.
"unedited" MD5: f8d76af9c3ba8bbe746a647ed0ad53c6 *Track05.shn
My Md5: c841c624b8b8c16c621405568dcfa9ae *Track05a.shn
My question is, is that seth kaplan edit in common circulation?
Date: 09/20/2008
User:
wally
My two cents……..
I also had 2 sets of files for shn id 17080, one edited and one unedited. I deleted the “unedited” set, because they match shn id 2008 for the same date. Also, the db shows a shn id gd69-11-01.21726 that matches shn id 2008. I think the shn id 21726 should be deleted since it is the wrong date and matches 2008. Also, I think 2008 should be noted as the unedited file set.
Does anyone else see it this way?
Thanks
Salah
I also had 2 sets of files for shn id 17080, one edited and one unedited. I deleted the “unedited” set, because they match shn id 2008 for the same date. Also, the db shows a shn id gd69-11-01.21726 that matches shn id 2008. I think the shn id 21726 should be deleted since it is the wrong date and matches 2008. Also, I think 2008 should be noted as the unedited file set.
Does anyone else see it this way?
Thanks
Salah
Date: 09/20/2008
User:
Wally
edited comment-
My two cents
I also had 2 sets of files for shn id 17080, one edited and one unedited. I deleted the unedited set, because they match shn id 2008 for the same date. Also, the db shows a shn id gd69-11-01.21726 that matches shn id 2008. I think the shn id 21726 should be deleted since it is the wrong date and matches 2008. Also, I think 2008 should be noted as the unedited file set.
Does anyone else see it this way?
Thanks
My two cents
I also had 2 sets of files for shn id 17080, one edited and one unedited. I deleted the unedited set, because they match shn id 2008 for the same date. Also, the db shows a shn id gd69-11-01.21726 that matches shn id 2008. I think the shn id 21726 should be deleted since it is the wrong date and matches 2008. Also, I think 2008 should be noted as the unedited file set.
Does anyone else see it this way?
Thanks
Date: 09/20/2008
User:
Wally
fwiw- maybe the unedited md5 should be deleted from the zip for shn id 17080?
peace
salah
peace
salah
Date: 09/20/2008
User:
mvernon
gd69-11-01.21726 that matches shn id 20008 has been merged into 20008 (we merge so that folks that linked to 21726 will now link to 20008)
Date: 09/20/2008
User:
mvernon
this shnid (20008) was seeded with edited and unedited versions, so we can't delete either of them. the confusion partly arises since the edited and unedited versions use the same filenames for what are actually different tracks so they need to be kept in different directories and here in different checksum files, though they duplicate some fingerprints between them
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