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Grateful Dead 05/10/1987

Laguna Seca Recreation Area, Monterey, CA
SHNID 2256
Source Summary
DSBD> PCM> DAT> zefiro2> soundforge> CDR> EAC> SHN; via Karl Schneiderman, John Zei
Entered by dr.unclear
Checksums shn-md5, orig-shn-md5, st5
Disc Counts 0 / 3
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
12/11/00
07/10/2004
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Archive Identifier gd87-05-10.sbd.schneiderman.2256.sbeok.shnf ↗

Other Sources
SHNID 83750 flac16 ; Recording Info: SBD -> Cassette...
SHNID 92344 flac16 ; Hat-Mounted Realistic PZM's with Sony...
SHNID 137069 flac16 ; PCM Soundboard; Sony L-750ESX-HFB...
SHNID 142115 flac24 ; Recording Info: UltraMatrix SBD >...
SHNID 142116 flac16 ; Recording Info: UltraMatrix SBD > PCM...
SHNID 142133 flac16 ; Recording Info: UltraMatrix SBD >...
SHNID 148844 flac16 ; Bertha Remaster of source ID 137069...
SHNID 163535 flac2496 Recording Info: Ultramatrix SBD >...
SHNID 165066 flac1644 Recording Info: Ultramatrix SBD >...
Grateful Dead
5-10-87
Laguna Seca Raceway
Monterey, Ca
Source: DSBD>PCM>DAT>zefiro2>soundforge>CDR>EAC>SHN

Disc 1
Set I
Mississippi Half Step>
Feel Like A Stranger
West L.A. Fadeaway
New Minglewood Blues
Row Jimmy
Box Of Rain>
Desolation Row>
Don't Ease Me In

Disc 2
Set II
Hell In A Bucket
Scarlet Begonias>
Fire On The Mountain
Man Smart(Woman Smarter)>
Drums/Space>
China Doll

Disc 3
Set II(cont)
Playin' In The Band
Throwin' Stones>
Turn On Your Lovelight
Encore
Not Fade Away
Black Muddy River


Karl Schneiderman stranger@acd.net



Comments

Date: 04/03/2004
d1t1 seems to be corrupt. Verifies with MD5, but there is no music when decoded to wave. There is a wave file that accompanies this shn, but that also does not play.
Date: 07/10/2004
Did they have digi-boards in 87??
Date: 07/10/2004
PCM is considered digital, which is likely what this is sourced from.
Date: 07/10/2004
User: MB
Yes but even with the PCM included that should not be listed as DSBD.
Date: 07/11/2004
DSBD really means that the soundboard itself was digital equipment. It should have nothing to do with the method of recording (analog or digital) or the media used (cassette, DAT, etc.). I don't know whether the Dead used a digital board in 1987, or what the seeder intended to convey by "DSBD".
Date: 07/11/2004
Right, I've had this one for a while (not this source) with the provenance SBD -> PCM x ? -> DAT x ?
Date: 07/12/2004
User: MB
That was my point, because I find it unlikely that the board was digital back in`87. When did they start using a DSBD anyway? My guess would be early 90?s but someone probably knows and could tell us.
Date: 07/12/2004
User: wik
My 2 pesos: DSBD means the recording was made digitally from the soundboard, period. This could be a DAT or PCM or Digibeta or CDR; the board need not be "digital" (why would we care about that, anyway?)

DAUD means the show was recorded digitally from the audience. It does not tell us the audience members were digital. It refers to the tape. DSBD tapes were made from 1982 to 1995 - i.e., when digital tape devices were used. This is a DSBD, but since the PCM master is listed, calling it so is redundant.
Date: 07/21/2004
User: dmac
Yes well all this if fine and good, but does anyone have a non-corrupt D1T1????
Date: 08/29/2005
User: jbear725
I've created a torrent just for the non-corrupt Mississippi Half-Step on bt.etree for those in need of the correct file. Eventually it will be updated on archive.org so it's correct there.
Date: 08/29/2005
Here's the new md5 for that track:
3cb2e139a3c86919d0583b743171a2da *gd87-05-10d1t01.shn

I just noticed that the two sets of md5 offered for this source, "d1/d2/d3" and "alt-shn", match. As in each other.
Date: 08/30/2005
User: Charles
> the two sets of md5..., "d1/d2/d3" and "alt-shn", match ...each other.

They match for everything except d1t01; the "d1" md5 is the same as you have listed:

> 3cb2e139a3c86919d0583b743171a2da *gd87-05-10d1t01.shn
Date: 05/30/2010
User: johnzei
If I remember correctly the D was intended to indicate that it was mastered on digital media (PCM) not that the board was digital so it was mislabeled. My source lists this as SBD-> PCM-> DAT......and so on, not as DSBD. Sorry for the confusion. I seeded this in 2000. I do have the Half Step from this show if anyone is still interested. I'll have to compare the show with the Miller source and his comments would be appreciated.
Date: 05/30/2010
This pcm sbd is very clean, but I think that Joani Walker's cassette master sbd is a bit better for this show. Normally I go with the digital boards, but not for this one. Either way, they are both great recordings of a great show.
Date: 05/30/2010
I disagree 100% about the DSBD label. It has nothing to do with the console being a digital console. It has always referred to a recording being purely digital.