Grateful Dead 10/19/1974
Winterland Arena, San Francisco, CA
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SHNID 227 SBD multitrack > DAT > CD; via A. Fink, M....
SHNID 21927 Recording Info: SBD -> Reel Master -> Dat...
SHNID 112531 flac24 ; 24 bit 88.2kHz SBD Reel > cass...
SHNID 112791 flac16 ; reel > cass recorded by Owsley...
SHNID 116170 flac24 ; SBD Reel > cass Recorded by the...
SHNID 116341 flac24 ; Lineage:16 track "truck monitor...
SHNID 131694 flac24 ; Lineage: 16 track "truck monitor mix"...
SHNID 131704 flac16 ; Lineage: 16 track "truck monitor mix"...
SHNID 139578 flac16 ; Source: sbd > 2nd gen cassette > dat...
SHNID 140626 flac16 ; Source: sbd > 2nd gen cassette > dat...
SHNID 152593 flac1644; Source: Unknown AUD from the...
SHNID 169824 flac2496 ; Recording: Sony ECM-22P mic (mono)...
SHNID 169825 flac1648 ; Recording: Sony ECM-22P mic (mono)...
SHNID 176648 flac1648 Louis Falanga's Master Audience...
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Grateful Dead
Winterland
San Francisco, CA
10.19.74
"sbd"
This topic generates large amounts of message traffic on Deadlists. Briefly, the "Wall of Sound" was a fundamentally different type of sound system where each musician adjusted the levels of their own instruments. Owsley Stanley (Bear) claims that there can be no soundboard recordings because there wasn't a soundboard.
During these "retirement" concerts there were apparently many recordings made, some of which were released as "Steal Your Face". There is a rumor that this recording is a copy of a rough mix cassette made for SYF provided to the taping community by Jerry Wexler's son or nephew (or something like that), along with 10.18.74 and 10.20.74.
These shows came from the Frank's Picks tree, round 4
http://frankspicks.org/fp4_Source_tape_info.htm
disc 1
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Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodleloo
Me And My Uncle
Friend Of The Devil
Beat It On Down The Line
It Must Have Been The Roses
El Paso
Loose Lucy
Black Throated Wind
Scarlet Begonias
To Lay Me Down
Mama Tried
disc 2
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Eyes Of The World
China Doll
Big River
Seastones
Set Two:
Uncle John's Band
Big Railroad Blues
The Race Is On
Tomorrow Is Forever
Mexicali Blues
Dire Wolf
disc 3
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Sugar Magnolia
He's Gone
Truckin'
Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) Jam
Drums
Truckin'
Black Peter
Sunshine Daydream
encores:
One More Saturday Night 4:53
U.S. Blues
dfinney@cts.com
Winterland
San Francisco, CA
10.19.74
"sbd"
This topic generates large amounts of message traffic on Deadlists. Briefly, the "Wall of Sound" was a fundamentally different type of sound system where each musician adjusted the levels of their own instruments. Owsley Stanley (Bear) claims that there can be no soundboard recordings because there wasn't a soundboard.
During these "retirement" concerts there were apparently many recordings made, some of which were released as "Steal Your Face". There is a rumor that this recording is a copy of a rough mix cassette made for SYF provided to the taping community by Jerry Wexler's son or nephew (or something like that), along with 10.18.74 and 10.20.74.
These shows came from the Frank's Picks tree, round 4
http://frankspicks.org/fp4_Source_tape_info.htm
disc 1
------
Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodleloo
Me And My Uncle
Friend Of The Devil
Beat It On Down The Line
It Must Have Been The Roses
El Paso
Loose Lucy
Black Throated Wind
Scarlet Begonias
To Lay Me Down
Mama Tried
disc 2
------
Eyes Of The World
China Doll
Big River
Seastones
Set Two:
Uncle John's Band
Big Railroad Blues
The Race Is On
Tomorrow Is Forever
Mexicali Blues
Dire Wolf
disc 3
------
Sugar Magnolia
He's Gone
Truckin'
Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) Jam
Drums
Truckin'
Black Peter
Sunshine Daydream
encores:
One More Saturday Night 4:53
U.S. Blues
dfinney@cts.com
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Date: 07/14/2000
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Diana Hamilton
This version suffers from a high-pitched hiss and, more seriously, a sense of "something missing".
After a by-ear comparison to the other shned copy of 10/19 ("Fink/Ferguson," db ID 2270, it seems like the lower frequencies are what's missing.)
Notably, the 10/20/74 shns from the "Frank's Picks" source appear to have the same defects. (I have not listened to a copy of the 10/18/74, also from Frank's.)
After a by-ear comparison to the other shned copy of 10/19 ("Fink/Ferguson," db ID 2270, it seems like the lower frequencies are what's missing.)
Notably, the 10/20/74 shns from the "Frank's Picks" source appear to have the same defects. (I have not listened to a copy of the 10/18/74, also from Frank's.)
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