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Grateful Dead 05/21/1974

Edmundson Pavilion, University Of Washington, Seattle, WA
SHNID 22801
Source Summary
MSR> C> Dats> CD> EAC> SHN> WAV> Samplitude2496 (shn id 2597) patched with AudMC > WAV > SHN (10150) via Charles Wier
Entered by dr.unclear
Checksums shn-md5, st5
Disc Counts 2 / 3
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
03/07/2004
03/12/2004
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Archive Identifier gd74-05-21.sbd-patched.wier.22801.sbeok.shnf ↗

Other Sources
SHNID 1347 S:MR > cassette > DAT > CD > EAC > SHN, except...
SHNID 2597 MSR> C> Dats> CD> EAC> SHN> WAV>...
SHNID 10150 AudMC > WAV > SHN Sony ECM18N mics > Sony...
SHNID 87114 flac16 ; Matrix 2 Source Mix - SBD ( shn id...
SHNID 87124 DTS Audio 5.1 ; SBD ( shn id 2597 )...
SHNID 87143 flac16 ; Sony ECM18N mics > Sony 152SD deck...
SHNID 87164 DVD-VA ; (Video Audio) 2 audio tracks; 1) SBD...
SHNID 98822 flac16 ; Recording Info: Sony ECM18N ->...
SHNID 98901 flac24 ; Recording Info: Sony ECM18N ->...
SHNID 109887 flac16 ; Matrix by Hunter Seamons using Final...
SHNID 114321 flac16 ; Updated source: Audience recording by...
SHNID 150950 flac16/48khz Source Info: Pat Lee's Master...
SHNID 150951 flac24/96khz Source Info: Pat Lee's Master...
GRATEFUL DEAD
Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
5/21/74

SBD (shnid=2597) patched with AUD (shnid=10150)

DISC ONE                            64:47
set one-a:
01 Me And My Uncle                   3:15
02 Brown Eyed Women                  5:54
03 Beat It On Down The Line          4:02
04 Deal                              5:06
05 Mexicali Blues                    4:31
06 It Must've Been The Roses         6:27
07 The Race Is On                    3:13
08 Scarlet Begonias                  6:36
09 El Paso                           5:26
10 Row Jimmy                         9:13
11 Money Money                       5:01
12 Ship Of Fools                     6:02   1/

total time: 56:14

DISC TWO                            69:10
set one-end:
01 Weather Report Suite Prelude >    1:08
02 Weather Report Suite Part One >   5:03
03 Let It Grow >                    10:50
04 China Doll                        5:43
set two-a:
05 Playin' In The Band              46:27

total time: 69:16

DISC THREE                          62:43
set two-end:
01 U.S. Blues                        6:55
02 Big River                         4:53   2/
03 Stella Blue (aud)                 8:23   3/
04 Around And Around (aud)           5:10   3/
05 Eyes Of The World >              13:49   4/
06 Wharf Rat >                       9:43
07 Sugar Magnolia                    9:47
encore:
08 /Johnny B. Goode                  4:02

total time:  61:23

SBD SOurce (shnid=2597)
MSR>C>Dats>CD>EAC>SHN>.WAV>Samplitude2496: retracked, normalized (added +1.8 dB) > SHN, CD.  Playin' has no Cassette gen, and is patched w/26 sec of AUD at reel flip.

AUD Patch source (shnid=10150)
AudMC > WAV > SHN
Sony ECM18N mics > Sony 152SD deck, recorded by Pat Lee, hand held mics in right balcony

Patches SHN > WAV > CE Pro (patching) > sector boundary correction (CE Pro & shntool v1.2.3) > SHN V3 encoding (shntool) by Charles Wier

SBEs fixed manually and with shntool, as the crowd is cut between most songs on both the SBD and AUD master.  Transitions are smooth, but not continual due to missing crowd.  Minor cut at beginning of JBG also cut on AUD and could not be patched.
1/  patch beginning ~0:13.8 w/ aud; 0:12.6 of silence removed from end
2/  trim silence from end
3/  patch w/ aud; -2 dB to R ch & trim/fade crowd
4/  10 dB boost to R ch fadein for 1st 5 secs (barely detectable)

Disc 1
    length     expanded size   cdr  WAVE  probs   filename
     3:14.67      34379228     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t01.shn
     5:53.58      62405660     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t02.shn
     4:02.36      42773516     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t03.shn
     5:05.65      53954924     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t04.shn
     4:30.56      47759756     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t05.shn
     6:26.71      68257436     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t06.shn
     3:12.57      34002908     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t07.shn
     6:35.71      69845036     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t08.shn
     5:26.30      57577004     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t09.shn
     9:13.30      97619804     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t10.shn
     5:01.12      53124668     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t11.shn
     6:02.16      63894476     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t12.shn
    64:46.44        653.83 MB                     (totals for 12 files, 0.5578 overall compression ratio)
Disc 2
    length     expanded size   cdr  WAVE  probs   filename
     1:08.12      12023468     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d2t01.shn
     5:02.52      53395148     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d2t02.shn
    10:49.43     114584780     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d2t03.shn
     5:42.52      60451148     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d2t04.shn
    46:26.55     491579804     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d2t05.shn
    69:09.64        698.12 MB                     (totals for 5 files, 0.5837 overall compression ratio)
Disc 3
    length     expanded size   cdr  WAVE  probs   filename
     6:55.03      73213100     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d3t01.shn
     4:53.15      51720524     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d3t02.shn
     8:22.71      88719836     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d3t03.shn
     5:10.17      54724028     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d3t04.shn
    13:49.29     146303852     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d3t05.shn
     9:43.29     102909452     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d3t06.shn
     9:46.51     103490396     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d3t07.shn
     4:02.27      42752348     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d3t08.shn
    62:43.17        633.08 MB                     (totals for 8 files, 0.5986 overall compression ratio)
Total
   196:39.50       1985.04 MB                     (totals for 25 files, 0.5799 overall compression ratio)

Comments

Date: 11/02/2005
User: A Dude
I was looking at this show at Archive.org and found this comment on this shnid: " January 12, 2005
Reviewer: oceantree
Subject: get the other source
Only worry about Stella and Aroundx2 from this source of this show, as they are missing on the other SB source. The other SB has much better sound quality."

This seemed amazing to me, since the other SB is 2597 that was used for this shn set.

So, I compared the two several times, and if you remove the "much", he is indeed correct.

Either Mr. Wier did not disclose NR or other processing or steps not listed here, or else CEPro adds a slight veiling.

I have to conclude that the various housekeeping done, were not worth the overall cost in quality.
Date: 11/03/2005
Sorry, Dude, but the mind is a terrible thing to waste. All SBD tracks, except d1t12 & d3t02-5, for which fixes were detailed in the text file, and d2t05, d3t01, d3t05 & d3t08, for which SBEs were fixed, are the EXACT same audio files as for shnid2597. The [shntool] md5 fingerprint, which is the checksum for the audio data only, follows, and is identical to the other seed for d1t01-11 & d2t01-4. The files which differ only by the SBE fixes were compared using EAC's Compare WAVs tool and are identical except at the ends where the samples were moved.

e697b2f30e35a071d674d59c57125e68 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t01.shn
b8375fe0d424db5a0a4bcfb13303f7ef [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t02.shn
9a5bfd4befd57d7a665bce3056c18481 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t03.shn
8da1e5d2cf7c405e79f035f5207068a8 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t04.shn
fc05dc298d7a1909dd74bef44acf3dbc [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t05.shn
9b0d7cbdb5b366fe911c39106d5d9312 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t06.shn
26878c1acc6c613ac20d1ffab53a31a0 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t07.shn
23ed31bf968c5f5e6deaa09bedbf300c [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t08.shn
09c72d8eb2caed490a352247c7a6156f [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t09.shn
72c4fc69b92e149efc0e61ff0eb1dd1b [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t10.shn
46cd54708b4afb3eb5eff36a4518e252 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t11.shn
285e716a3b9a2c60207d80f938071055 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t12.shn
0bbdd7731b6e4d4f66052caea69b5359 [shntool] gd74-05-21d2t01.shn
601f39ba1d8355e397dd8b3b5355567a [shntool] gd74-05-21d2t02.shn
eff5ec44ab47e15750508b26df8a87d4 [shntool] gd74-05-21d2t03.shn
4f4ef9edf2a19226bf825c54996ac13d [shntool] gd74-05-21d2t04.shn
efb6c26a064609b2783fb801ec77cbb3 [shntool] gd74-05-21d2t05.shn
638002533e978cce9e34d60c99bc4a2c [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t01.shn
a1e7d31fb89644e46f55cdb40a62c92a [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t02.shn
db321c6f4fa912b6904cd06d19c77af6 [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t03.shn
d46b050e90147f60b15da2a9232cc6cf [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t04.shn
6337a37bf0354b2f83b7137ebf503511 [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t05.shn
d6c37de6ec80853ef588076a9d6b985c [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t06.shn
7efc61167420488c08da7e7c8c0575d8 [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t07.shn
cfb29bc1a026adf5e1f7e0c8f5a3a14f [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t08.shn

Perhaps, the previous reviewer's comment at archive.org should have stated that the other SB has much better sound quality than Stella and Aroundx2 (the tracks patched from the AudMC).

At least for the time being, this appears to be the best SBD source patched with the best circulating audience. Absolutely no remastering has been done with the exception of patching the 2 sources together. No audio engineer egos present... I just tried to combine the best of what was available for an awesome show :)
Date: 07/24/2008
The beginning of WRS Prelude sounds like its cut. It's missing the opening guitar figure.
Date: 07/24/2008
Oops! The cut in Prelude was documented in the text file for 2597.