Grateful Dead 06/17/1975
Winterland Arena, San Francisco, CA
Source Summary
flac16; AUD/SBD Matrix of 2 previously circulating sources: AUD - (shn ID #233) and SBD - (shn ID #20084). Edited and converted by Chris Chappell.
flac16; AUD/SBD Matrix of 2 previously circulating sources: AUD - (shn ID #233) and SBD - (shn ID #20084). Edited and converted by Chris Chappell.
Other Sources
SHNID 233 AUD CM>DAT>CD> EAC> SHN; Recorded by Rob...
SHNID 20084 sbd>? gen cass>PCM>SEK'D Prodif96Pro>wav>SHN...
SHNID 87560 flac16 ; Sony ECM-280's > Sony TC-152SD...
SHNID 96125 flac16 ; SBD Source: MSR@ 7 1/2 ips > Maxell...
SHNID 96148 flac16 ; Matrix 2 Source Mix - SBD (shn id...
SHNID 96162 DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Mix ; - SBD (shn id 96125)...
SHNID 97077 flac16 ; 1 x ECM 250, 1 x ECM 270 => Sony...
SHNID 97078 flac24 ; 1 x ECM 250, 1 x ECM 270 => Sony...
SHNID 97079 flac16 ; MTX 1 x ECM 250, 1 x ECM 270 => Sony...
SHNID 143100 flac16 ; Source: Sony ECM-280's > Sony...
SHNID 143102 flac16 ; Source: Sony ECM-280's > Sony...
SHNID 145779 flac16 ; Partial Set 1 Source: Soundboard -> ?...
SHNID 171164 flac1648 Sbd > Master Reel > Wav
SHNID 171166 flac2496 ; Recording Info: SBD > Master Reel >...
Grateful Dead
Winterland Arena
San Francisco, CA
6-17-75
Sick Bits Vol. 7
* Bob Fried Memorial Boogie
Source:
Matrix: (SBD/AUD mix)
SBD: MR> ?gen cass>PCM>SEK'D Prodif96Pro>wav>SHN (shn ID #20084)
AUD: MAC:
Sony ECM-280 mics > Sony TC-152 SD cassette (shn ID #233)
AUD CM>DAT>CD>
EAC>SHN
Recorded by Rob Bertrando
Transfer/Editing:
Both sources were shn files downloaded from LMA and converted to
WAV > Vegas 5 (matrix) > WAV > CD Wave > FLAC 16 (level 8)
Matrixed by Chris Chappell
ScarFire@liquidcity.com
6/02/05
set 1 (partial)
d1t01 [9:06] Peggy-O
d1t02 [4:13] Me and My Uncle
d1t03 [3:27] *Help on the Way >
d1t04 [9:41] Slipknot >
d1t05 [9:39] Franklin's Tower
Total Time: 36:08
* no vocals
General Notes:
In an effort to find something to matrix from 1975, I found this 5 song stretch
at the end of set 1 from the Bob Fried Memorial Boogie that is the only portion of
this show that circulates in SBD. Because this version of Peggy-O is ultimately
responsible for turning me "on" to the Dead, I decided it was worth an effort to
see what a matrix would sound like. The SBD suffers from multiple cassette gens
and has no high end at all. My expectations were pretty low becasue of the SBD
quality, but I was pleasantly surprised when coupled with the AUD at about a 1:1
ratio, that the low end from the SBD (Phil esp.) really helped round out the amazing
AUD recorded by Rob Bertrando. If you don't have this show in its entirety, do
yourself a favor and download Rob's AUD, because it really is a quintessential
Dead bootleg. The show opener, Crazy Fingers (1st ever), is worth the download alone.
Other breakouts from this show include Help on the Way (sans vocals) and Franklin's
Tower. Blues For Allah would not be released for another 2 months, so it's likely
that Help was a work in progress, thus the lack of lyrics for it's debut. Slipknot!
appears only for the 3rd time, although it's the first time in this classic trio.
Thanks to Rob Bertrando for recording the AUD and others responsible for converting
and seeding this classic recording. Also thanks to the Music Never Stopped Project
for finding the SBD source and getting it out there even though it's only a partial.
Enjoy!
Chappy
Edit and Source notes [see attached]
FLAC Fingerprint [see attached]
Shntool output [see attached]
Grateful Dead
Winterland Arena
San Francisco, CA
6-17-75
Sick Bits Vol. 7
* Bob Fried Memorial Boogie
Source:
Matrix: (SBD/AUD mix)
SBD: MR> ?gen cass>PCM>SEK'D Prodif96Pro>wav>SHN (shn ID #20084)
AUD: MAC:
Sony ECM-280 mics > Sony TC-152 SD cassette (shn ID #233)
AUD CM>DAT>CD>
EAC>SHN
Recorded by Rob Bertrando
[complete text files for each source appended at end]
Transfer/Editing:
Both sources were shn files downloaded from LMA and converted to
WAV > Vegas 5 (matrix) > WAV > CD Wave > FLAC 16 (level 8)
Matrixed by Chris Chappell
ScarFire@liquidcity.com
6/02/05
set 1 (partial)
d1t01 [9:06] Peggy-O
d1t02 [4:13] Me and My Uncle
d1t03 [3:27] *Help on the Way >
d1t04 [9:41] Slipknot >
d1t05 [9:39] Franklin's Tower
Total Time: 36:10
* no vocals
Editing Notes:
- Pitch
Both sources were pitched differently, the SBD being the sharpest,
and the AUD being the flatest. I used the AUD as my master timeline
and pitch referenced the SBD to it. The SBD on average had to be pitched
down about -.17 (17 cents) to achieve pitch correction - 1.00 being
100 cents which is a semitone. I did not reference A=440 as I did not
desire to pitch adjust the AUD. It is very close though to A=440.
- Synch
Because of the speed fluctuation within a given source, multiple edits
were performed to keep the sources synched. Because the AUD was my
master pitch and time ref, the SBD was synched to the SBD (too many
edits to list).
- Sonic Quality/Matrix ratio
The only dynamic processing I employed was a little bit of compression
(Sony Track Comp.) to the SBD source. All I was trying to do here is to add some
punch to the AUD by using the low end presence of the AUD. The result is a
lively but clear recording, hopefully close to how it sounded at the show.
If I had to guess the AUD/SBD ratio would be somewhere around 1:1.
- Edits
The following are places where the SBD and AUD had splices, holes or
incomplete coverage in reference to the final matrix timeline. Crossfades
were used throughout for smooth transitions to a single source.
SBD:
d1t01 (0:00 - 1:00) - missing
d1t02 (0:00 - 0:58) - missing (crowd)
d1t03 (0:00 - 0:19) - missing (mostly crowd - about 6 secs of Help intro)
d1t04 (7:51 - 8:02) - missing
AUD:
d1t01 (5:55 - 6:15) - left channel only due to bad dropouts in the right channel
Even though this is a partial recording, all of the music is intact, full
coverage being achieved by the combination of both sources.
_______________________________________________________________________________
Here are the source notes for both AUD and SBD:
AUD (shn ID #233)
6-17-75
Winterland Arena
SF CA
(2 audio)
AUD CM>DAT>CD>
EAC>SHN
Recorded by Rob Bertrando
Sony ECM-280 mics > Sony TC-152 SD cassette > playback on Nak Dragon > DAT;
audience from Winterland floor, about 30-35' back,
just to the left of dead center.
Disc One
SET1
Crazy Fingers
Beat It On Down The Line
Deal
Big River
Peggy-O
Me And My Uncle
Help On The Way (1) >
Slipknot! >
Franklin's Tower
Disc Two
SET2
Blues For Allah >
Stronger Than Dirt Or Milkin' The Turkey >
Drums >
Stronger Than Dirt Or Milkin' The Turkey >
Blues For Allah
Sugar Magnolia
E: U.S. Blues
COMMENTS (1) no lyrics
_______________________________________________________________________________
SBD (shn ID #20084)
Grateful Dead
06/17/75
Winterland Arena
San Francisco, CA
Soundboard:
missing Crazy Fingers through Deal [45 minutes]
sbd>? gen cass>PCM>SEK'D Prodif96Pro>wav>SHN
01. Peggy-o
02. Me And My Uncle
03. Help On The Way->Slipknot
04. Franklin's Tower
Another installment of The Music Never Stopped Project 2003!!
Shntool output:
D:\>shntool len matrix/*.flac
length expanded size cdr WAVE problems filename
9:06.13 96345020 --- -- ---xx matrix/gd75-06-17matrix-d1t01.flac
4:13.44 44732732 --- -- ---xx matrix/gd75-06-17matrix-d1t02.flac
3:27.29 36583052 --- -- ---xx matrix/gd75-06-17matrix-d1t03.flac
9:41.70 102653084 --- -- ---xx matrix/gd75-06-17matrix-d1t04.flac
9:39.15 102170924 --- -- ---xx matrix/gd75-06-17matrix-d1t05.flac
36:08.21 382484812 B (totals for 5 files, 0.5576 overall compression ratio)
Winterland Arena
San Francisco, CA
6-17-75
Sick Bits Vol. 7
* Bob Fried Memorial Boogie
Source:
Matrix: (SBD/AUD mix)
SBD: MR> ?gen cass>PCM>SEK'D Prodif96Pro>wav>SHN (shn ID #20084)
AUD: MAC:
Sony ECM-280 mics > Sony TC-152 SD cassette (shn ID #233)
AUD CM>DAT>CD>
EAC>SHN
Recorded by Rob Bertrando
Transfer/Editing:
Both sources were shn files downloaded from LMA and converted to
WAV > Vegas 5 (matrix) > WAV > CD Wave > FLAC 16 (level 8)
Matrixed by Chris Chappell
ScarFire@liquidcity.com
6/02/05
set 1 (partial)
d1t01 [9:06] Peggy-O
d1t02 [4:13] Me and My Uncle
d1t03 [3:27] *Help on the Way >
d1t04 [9:41] Slipknot >
d1t05 [9:39] Franklin's Tower
Total Time: 36:08
* no vocals
General Notes:
In an effort to find something to matrix from 1975, I found this 5 song stretch
at the end of set 1 from the Bob Fried Memorial Boogie that is the only portion of
this show that circulates in SBD. Because this version of Peggy-O is ultimately
responsible for turning me "on" to the Dead, I decided it was worth an effort to
see what a matrix would sound like. The SBD suffers from multiple cassette gens
and has no high end at all. My expectations were pretty low becasue of the SBD
quality, but I was pleasantly surprised when coupled with the AUD at about a 1:1
ratio, that the low end from the SBD (Phil esp.) really helped round out the amazing
AUD recorded by Rob Bertrando. If you don't have this show in its entirety, do
yourself a favor and download Rob's AUD, because it really is a quintessential
Dead bootleg. The show opener, Crazy Fingers (1st ever), is worth the download alone.
Other breakouts from this show include Help on the Way (sans vocals) and Franklin's
Tower. Blues For Allah would not be released for another 2 months, so it's likely
that Help was a work in progress, thus the lack of lyrics for it's debut. Slipknot!
appears only for the 3rd time, although it's the first time in this classic trio.
Thanks to Rob Bertrando for recording the AUD and others responsible for converting
and seeding this classic recording. Also thanks to the Music Never Stopped Project
for finding the SBD source and getting it out there even though it's only a partial.
Enjoy!
Chappy
Edit and Source notes [see attached]
FLAC Fingerprint [see attached]
Shntool output [see attached]
Grateful Dead
Winterland Arena
San Francisco, CA
6-17-75
Sick Bits Vol. 7
* Bob Fried Memorial Boogie
Source:
Matrix: (SBD/AUD mix)
SBD: MR> ?gen cass>PCM>SEK'D Prodif96Pro>wav>SHN (shn ID #20084)
AUD: MAC:
Sony ECM-280 mics > Sony TC-152 SD cassette (shn ID #233)
AUD CM>DAT>CD>
EAC>SHN
Recorded by Rob Bertrando
[complete text files for each source appended at end]
Transfer/Editing:
Both sources were shn files downloaded from LMA and converted to
WAV > Vegas 5 (matrix) > WAV > CD Wave > FLAC 16 (level 8)
Matrixed by Chris Chappell
ScarFire@liquidcity.com
6/02/05
set 1 (partial)
d1t01 [9:06] Peggy-O
d1t02 [4:13] Me and My Uncle
d1t03 [3:27] *Help on the Way >
d1t04 [9:41] Slipknot >
d1t05 [9:39] Franklin's Tower
Total Time: 36:10
* no vocals
Editing Notes:
- Pitch
Both sources were pitched differently, the SBD being the sharpest,
and the AUD being the flatest. I used the AUD as my master timeline
and pitch referenced the SBD to it. The SBD on average had to be pitched
down about -.17 (17 cents) to achieve pitch correction - 1.00 being
100 cents which is a semitone. I did not reference A=440 as I did not
desire to pitch adjust the AUD. It is very close though to A=440.
- Synch
Because of the speed fluctuation within a given source, multiple edits
were performed to keep the sources synched. Because the AUD was my
master pitch and time ref, the SBD was synched to the SBD (too many
edits to list).
- Sonic Quality/Matrix ratio
The only dynamic processing I employed was a little bit of compression
(Sony Track Comp.) to the SBD source. All I was trying to do here is to add some
punch to the AUD by using the low end presence of the AUD. The result is a
lively but clear recording, hopefully close to how it sounded at the show.
If I had to guess the AUD/SBD ratio would be somewhere around 1:1.
- Edits
The following are places where the SBD and AUD had splices, holes or
incomplete coverage in reference to the final matrix timeline. Crossfades
were used throughout for smooth transitions to a single source.
SBD:
d1t01 (0:00 - 1:00) - missing
d1t02 (0:00 - 0:58) - missing (crowd)
d1t03 (0:00 - 0:19) - missing (mostly crowd - about 6 secs of Help intro)
d1t04 (7:51 - 8:02) - missing
AUD:
d1t01 (5:55 - 6:15) - left channel only due to bad dropouts in the right channel
Even though this is a partial recording, all of the music is intact, full
coverage being achieved by the combination of both sources.
_______________________________________________________________________________
Here are the source notes for both AUD and SBD:
AUD (shn ID #233)
6-17-75
Winterland Arena
SF CA
(2 audio)
AUD CM>DAT>CD>
EAC>SHN
Recorded by Rob Bertrando
Sony ECM-280 mics > Sony TC-152 SD cassette > playback on Nak Dragon > DAT;
audience from Winterland floor, about 30-35' back,
just to the left of dead center.
Disc One
SET1
Crazy Fingers
Beat It On Down The Line
Deal
Big River
Peggy-O
Me And My Uncle
Help On The Way (1) >
Slipknot! >
Franklin's Tower
Disc Two
SET2
Blues For Allah >
Stronger Than Dirt Or Milkin' The Turkey >
Drums >
Stronger Than Dirt Or Milkin' The Turkey >
Blues For Allah
Sugar Magnolia
E: U.S. Blues
COMMENTS (1) no lyrics
_______________________________________________________________________________
SBD (shn ID #20084)
Grateful Dead
06/17/75
Winterland Arena
San Francisco, CA
Soundboard:
missing Crazy Fingers through Deal [45 minutes]
sbd>? gen cass>PCM>SEK'D Prodif96Pro>wav>SHN
01. Peggy-o
02. Me And My Uncle
03. Help On The Way->Slipknot
04. Franklin's Tower
Another installment of The Music Never Stopped Project 2003!!
Shntool output:
D:\>shntool len matrix/*.flac
length expanded size cdr WAVE problems filename
9:06.13 96345020 --- -- ---xx matrix/gd75-06-17matrix-d1t01.flac
4:13.44 44732732 --- -- ---xx matrix/gd75-06-17matrix-d1t02.flac
3:27.29 36583052 --- -- ---xx matrix/gd75-06-17matrix-d1t03.flac
9:41.70 102653084 --- -- ---xx matrix/gd75-06-17matrix-d1t04.flac
9:39.15 102170924 --- -- ---xx matrix/gd75-06-17matrix-d1t05.flac
36:08.21 382484812 B (totals for 5 files, 0.5576 overall compression ratio)
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AUD CM>DAT>CD> EAC> SHN;... (5)
sbd>? gen cass>PCM>SEK'D... (0)
flac16 ; Sony ECM-280's >... (0)
flac16 ; SBD Source: MSR@... (2)
flac16 ; Matrix 2 Source... (0)
DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Mix ; -... (0)
flac16 ; 1 x ECM 250, 1 x... (0)
flac24 ; 1 x ECM 250, 1 x... (0)
flac16 ; MTX 1 x ECM 250,... (0)
flac16 ; Source: Sony... (0)
flac16 ; Source: Sony... (0)
flac16 ; Partial Set 1... (0)
flac1648 Sbd > Master... (1)
flac2496 ; Recording Info:... (0)
AUD CM>DAT>CD> EAC> SHN;... (5)
sbd>? gen cass>PCM>SEK'D... (0)
flac16 ; Sony ECM-280's >... (0)
flac16 ; SBD Source: MSR@... (2)
flac16 ; Matrix 2 Source... (0)
DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Mix ; -... (0)
flac16 ; 1 x ECM 250, 1 x... (0)
flac24 ; 1 x ECM 250, 1 x... (0)
flac16 ; MTX 1 x ECM 250,... (0)
flac16 ; Source: Sony... (0)
flac16 ; Source: Sony... (0)
flac16 ; Partial Set 1... (0)
flac1648 Sbd > Master... (1)
flac2496 ; Recording Info:... (0)
Date: 01/25/2006
User:
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This has been upped to tmnsp.net as part of the 74-75 project I always fill out the id3 info, the ffp is the same. I created a wav md5 which will also be the same,and a new flac.md5 for to account for the id3 tags
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c92172df3e7cb72f0bf131d4ff9121ec *gd75-06-17matrix-d1t04.flac
c5872cf81a1d23c268b5e1244216808c *gd75-06-17matrix-d1t05.flac
cc18648b94108bc974369182a6d3f82f *gd75-06-17matrix-d1t01.wav
d79ddad14442a45b4786c8258172d7bb *gd75-06-17matrix-d1t02.wav
4e63f68ffa007667551be77efa1d1a70 *gd75-06-17matrix-d1t03.wav
272a778553929e33bd6466c6e35e7793 *gd75-06-17matrix-d1t04.wav
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e2247a90456c7e717cb939a5fd3cc463 *gd75-06-17matrix-d1t01.flac
3d644a7abb0a11bdd5df44737f0571d2 *gd75-06-17matrix-d1t02.flac
56d99ea7b94b5c4968cd4b51392fa9a7 *gd75-06-17matrix-d1t03.flac
c92172df3e7cb72f0bf131d4ff9121ec *gd75-06-17matrix-d1t04.flac
c5872cf81a1d23c268b5e1244216808c *gd75-06-17matrix-d1t05.flac
cc18648b94108bc974369182a6d3f82f *gd75-06-17matrix-d1t01.wav
d79ddad14442a45b4786c8258172d7bb *gd75-06-17matrix-d1t02.wav
4e63f68ffa007667551be77efa1d1a70 *gd75-06-17matrix-d1t03.wav
272a778553929e33bd6466c6e35e7793 *gd75-06-17matrix-d1t04.wav
280f67b758b2c65cc048dca5852c671d *gd75-06-17matrix-d1t05.wav
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