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Grateful Dead 06/17/1991

Giants Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ
SHNID 33670
Source Summary
DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Mix
Entered by Matt Vernon
Checksums ffp, flac-md5
Disc Counts 2 / 3
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
4/4/06
04/04/2006
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Archive Identifier gd1991-06-17.dts.dan.33670.sbeok.flac16 ↗

Other Sources
SHNID 484 DSBD> DAT> CDR> SHN; new version d1, 5/18/99;...
SHNID 3591 sbd> ?> cdr> eac> shn; via Tony Gardner, with...
SHNID 25608 SBD -> Master Dat (44.1k) -> Dat Clone;...
SHNID 31606 flac16 ; SBD + AUD Matrix Mix
SHNID 86659 flac16/48 ; AUD Source: Nakamichi CM-300's...
SHNID 86660 flac16 ; AUD Source: Nakamichi CM-300's w/CP-4...
SHNID 95644 flac16 ; Lineage: Master DAT Recording...
SHNID 122790 flac24 ; Master Audience Recorded By Mr....
SHNID 122791 flac16 ; Master Audience Recorded By Mr....
SHNID 128692 flac16 ; 3 Source Matrix by Dusborne;...
SHNID 134054 flac16 ; Source: AKG 414-BTL (hypercard X-Y) >...
SHNID 135941 flac16/48kHz ; 5.1 LPCM Surround Sound (48k) -...
SHNID 135942 flac16 ; Matrix 2 Source Mix - SBD...
SHNID 135943 DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Mix ; SBD (shnid=25608) SBD...
SHNID 137545 flac24 ; Recording Info: SBD > Cassette Master...
SHNID 137547 flac16; Recording Info: SBD > Cassette Master...
SHNID 150371 flac16/48kHz ; Recording: FOB Schoeps CMC3...
SHNID 150633 flac24 ; Recording Info: SBD > Cassette Master...
SHNID 150677 flac16 ; Recording Info: SBD > Cassette Master...
SHNID 170672 FLAC 1644 Source: 2x Sennheiser ME 88s...
SHNID 170673 FLAC 2496 Source: 2x Sennheiser ME 88s...
Grateful Dead
Giants Stadium
East Rutherford, NJ
June 17, 1991

DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Mix

Disc 1

01 [00:55] Tuning >
02 [15:02] Eyes Of The World >
03 [07:00] Walkin' Blues
04 [06:10] Brown Eyed Women >
05 [01:33] Dark Star Tease >
06 [06:25] Masterpiece
07 [09:15] Loose Lucy
08 [07:12] Cassidy >
09 [06:23] Might As Well
TT [59:59]

Disc 2

01 [02:59] Tuning/St. Jam >
02 [07:02] Saint Of Circumstance >
03 [07:55] Ship Of Fools >
04 [01:18] Dark Star Jam >
05 [06:57] Truckin' >
06 [10:00] New Speedway Boogie >
07 [13:19] Uncle John's Band >
08 [06:12] Dark Star Jam >
09 [12:12] Drums >
TT [67:58]

Disc 3

01 [08:26] Space >
02 [05:17] China Doll >
03 [04:35] Playin' (Reprise)
04 [11:54] Sugar Magnolia
   Encore
05 [06:01] The Weight
TT [36:15]

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Source Info

SBD
SBD: Master Dat (44.1k) > Dat Clone
Transfer Info:  Dat (Sony R500) > SEK'D Prodif Plus > Samplitude
v7.02 Professional -> SHN
Via: The immortal, unstoppable Charlie Miller

AUD
FOB: B&K 4011's > Neumann BS48i power supplies > Aiwa/HHB1Pro DAT
Taper: Curtis Claymont
Location: "Sweet Spot" FOB, DFC

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Tech Notes

SHNs were decoded to wave and SF 8.0 was used to reassemble
the tracks back to 1 long wave.  CEP2.0 was used to align &
synch both sources.  CEP2.0 used to adjust the volume for
the center and LFE channels.  Surcode CD Pro DTS was used
to encode to DTS.  
- Mixed by dan@am-dig.com
- FLAC conversion done 17-JUN-2005  
- Artwork by dan@am-dig.com 300dpi - For best results print
at the highest resolution onto glossy photo paper.  Design
for use with a clear slim double jewel case.  

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DTS-Audio-CD Info

Front
Left Channel SBD
Right Channel SBD  

Center  
Mixed to Mono -6db SBD

Surround  
Left Channel B&K 4011's
Right Channel B&K 4011's

Sub/LFE  
Mixed to Mono -5db SBD

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Notes

d1t09 approx 0.621 seconds of crowd cheer missing after the
last song and before Bob Weir's comments "We'll be back in a
little bit".  Strange.  The AUD was trimmed to match and the
result is smooth and undetectable.

d1t08 at 51:57.173 the levels increase by approx +6db on the
FOB.  I reduced the levels to match the rest of the recording
by doing a gradual decrease in gain. This smooth and is most
likely undetectable.

d2t09 Level drop significantly on the FOB from 57:36.956 to
57:47.500 for a total of 10.544.  Doing a gradual increase
in gain I raised this low level portion +10db.  This smooth
and is most likely undetectable.

d2t09 13.220 seconds missing of drums, just before space is
about to start on the SBD source.  This is not only very
difficult to explain why but was really hard to find exactly
where to make a patch.   I was finally able to get a good
idea where this was and patch it with the FOB. This smooth
and most likely undetectable.

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Editorial Comments

I felt it worthy to include a few observations/opinions.

This is another strange 1991 SBD.  Let me explain.  Quite
a few digital SBD's for the 1991 year are in circulation.  
I am sure some of you have noticed a sorta strange sound
quality to them.  What makes them sound they way they do
is unknown to me.  I'd call them too digital.  They tip-
toe along the edge of blurry.  If I had to guess I would
think a portable DAT deck was being fed an analog signal
into the line in.  And although the levels were set
appropriately the deck was overloaded by 'too hot' a feed
from the SBD.  

This 1991 SBD source is very similar to many other 1991
shows.  4/27/91, 6/22/91, 8/16/91, 9/8/91 thru 9/18/91 to
name a few.  These sources have a good mix and are clear as
a bell, yes, but also sound too digital.  Too much of a
hard edge to them.  Perhaps the decks were overloaded,
maybe it was a poor A to D chip.

The FOB used for this mix is excellent.  An 'in-your-face'
recording with a nice rowdy feel to it.  A great compliment
to the SBD.  While it doesn't completely 'fix' the overly
digital sound of the SBD it does help.

A good listening spot.  Check out where it sounds as if the
Dead are about to head into Dark Star in the middle of
the first set.  Listen to the crowd reaction to Dark Star
and then when they break to Masterpiece.  This is really fun
in 5.1 and on the matrix.  A great moment in GD history.

I remember wondering to myself if this was going to be a
long 1 set show like Foxboro 1987.  After opening the show
with Eyes Of The World and then this Dark Star exploration,
there was really a feeling of anything could happen.

Good show, over rated show, Vince or not, what can and should
be said is this show it is truly an extraordinarily unique
Grateful Dead performance.

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Additional Formats

This show is available in the following formats:

1. The straight DSBD and FOB: B&K 4011's
2. SBD + AUD Matrix Mix at 16/44 CD-Audio
3. SBD + AUD Matrix Mix at 24/96 DVD-Audio
4. SBD + AUD DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Surround Sound
5. SBD + AUD DVD-Audio 5.1 Surround Sound

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More On DTS

Today's audio standards are moving towards multi-channel
sound, like DTS and Dolby Digital.  While the Audio-CD
standard (Red Book) hasn't changed to accommodate these
new sound formats, it is still possible to go around the
specification and to put a 5.1 surround recording on a
regular Audio-CD.  To play a DTS-Audio-CD you must connect
your DVD/CD player via a digital cable (optical or coaxial)
to your DTS Dolby-Digital receiver. It is not 100% sure that
your receiver will recognize a DTS-Audio-CD, so the first
time you're trying to playback a DTS-Audio-CD you must do
a test to determine if it can. Begin with the volume very
low, start the disc and rise the volume gradually. NEVER
listen to a DTS-Audio-CD through the analogue audio outputs
of your CD/DVD player.

Burning Instructions
Burn them the absolute same way as you would burn any normal
Audio-CD from FLAC files.

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