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Grateful Dead 05/03/1987

Frost Amphitheatre, Palo Alto, CA
SHNID 34396
Source Summary
flac16; Seamless fix of shn id 1193 - 65% DSBD PRE-FM SBD/35% FOB Schoeps CMC32S. Note Added 11/9/08: Reflac version w/o replay gain added. See info file for details
Entered by Matt Vernon
Checksums ffp, orig-flac-replaygain-md5, flac-md5
Disc Counts 2 / 3
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
04/29/2006
04/29/2006
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Archive Identifier gd1987-05-03.weber.gardner.tetzeli.fix-1193.34396.reflac.flac16 ↗

Other Sources
SHNID 1193 DSBD/DAUD MIX: 65% DSBD PRE-FM SBD --> PCM -->...
SHNID 16175 Unknown SBD patched with circulating Matrix;...
SHNID 18848 SBD > MC > DAT > CD > EAC > SHN; EAC/SHN by...
SHNID 83738 flac16 ; Recording Info: SBD -> Cassette...
SHNID 98294 flac16 ; FOB 10th Row Sony D5 w/NAK...
SHNID 135937 flac16 ; Digital Soundboard > PCM copy > Sony...
SHNID 148781 flac16/48kHz ; Source Info: Chris Hecht's...
SHNID 148782 flac24 ; Source Info: Chris Hecht's Master...
SHNID 152831 flac16/48 Source Info: Bob Wagner's Master...
SHNID 152832 flac24/96 Source Info: Bob Wagner's Master...
SHNID 166865 flac2496 ; Recording Info: Ultramatrix SBD >...
SHNID 166933 flac1648; Recording Info: Ultramatrix SBD >...
Grateful Dead
5/3/87
Frost Amphitheatre
Palo Alto, CA
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Fix of shnid 1193.  

This is actually a refix.  My first one was probably okay, but I wanted something more accurate in making the transition between CDs 2 and 3 seamless, something that was difficult because of the fades in the overlapping sections.  Unfortunately, what I discovered was there was something qualitatively different between the end of CD 2 and the beginning of CD 3, so no matter how exactly I matched the volume at the splice points you could easily hear where the splice was.  I finally had to settle for approximately matching the levels at the overlap, synching the overlap precisely and doing a cross fade in CE Pro (around 4 sec. into Space).  It's not perfect, but it's the best I can do and it sounds pretty good.  I'm sure someone else can do better.

I converted the SHNs to FLAC and merged the drums and space into one track each (they had been three tracks each).

Bill Tetzeli, btet@adelphia.net
5:20 AM 4/29/2006
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DSBD/DAUD MIX

65% DSBD PRE-FM SBD --> PCM --> DAT --> CDR
35% FOB Schoeps CMC32S --> Grace P.S. --> Sony PCM601 ES --> DAT --> CDR

mixed by Sean Weber, converted to shn by Bill Gardner

Disc 1
Set 1
1. Set Intro
2. Touch of Grey
3. Promised Land
4. Row Jimmy
5. Itsy Bitsy Spider Tuning
6. Little Bunny Foo Foo Tuning
7. Peggy-O
6. Never Trust A Woman
7. Cassidy
8. Don't Ease Me In

Disc 2
Set 2
1. Set Intro
2. Iko
3. Feel Like a Stranger
4. Ship of Fools
5. Estimated Prophet -->
6. Drums

Disc 3

1. Space
2. The Other One -->
3. Black Peter -->
4. Throwing Stones -->
5. Not Fade Away

Encore:
6. Set intro
7. The Mighty Quinn

shntool output:

    length     expanded size   cdr  WAVE problems filename
     2:20.34       24776012    ---   --   ---xx   gd87-05-03d1t01.flac
     6:24.21       67787036    ---   --   ---xx   gd87-05-03d1t02.flac
     6:14.49       66088892    ---   --   ---xx   gd87-05-03d1t03.flac
    13:02.30      138015404    ---   --   ---xx   gd87-05-03d1t04.flac
     2:26.03       25761500    ---   --   ---xx   gd87-05-03d1t05.flac
     1:15.14       13262972    ---   --   ---xx   gd87-05-03d1t06.flac
  
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    length     expanded size    cdr  WAVE problems  fmt   ratio  filename
     2:20.34       24776012 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.4535  gd87-05-03d1t01.flac
     6:24.21       67787036 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6183  gd87-05-03d1t02.flac
     6:14.49       66088892 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6082  gd87-05-03d1t03.flac
    13:02.30      138015404 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.5978  gd87-05-03d1t04.flac
     2:26.03       25761500 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.5017  gd87-05-03d1t05.flac
     1:15.14       13262972 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.5867  gd87-05-03d1t06.flac
     8:54.03       94204700 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.5941  gd87-05-03d1t07.flac
     6:27.30       68337404 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6302  gd87-05-03d1t08.flac
     6:24.44       67841132 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6531  gd87-05-03d1t09.flac
     4:03.71       43032236 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6344  gd87-05-03d1t10.flac
     1:16.60       13547564 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.4662  gd87-05-03d2t01.flac
     7:36.23       80492540 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6503  gd87-05-03d2t02.flac
     8:34.11       90695516 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6416  gd87-05-03d2t03.flac
     9:12.47       97483388 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.5507  gd87-05-03d2t04.flac
    11:20.10      119975564 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6283  gd87-05-03d2t05.flac
    11:33.30      122315804 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.4935  gd87-05-03d2t06.flac
     8:55.40       94468124 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.4809  gd87-05-03d3t01.flac
     4:46.08       50469260 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6356  gd87-05-03d3t02.flac
     9:13.22       97600988 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.5874  gd87-05-03d3t03.flac
     8:30.24       90020492 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6548  gd87-05-03d3t04.flac
    11:55.05      126137804 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6036  gd87-05-03d3t05.flac
     0:44.04        7771052 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.5805  gd87-05-03d3t06.flac
     4:54.60       52002764 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6423  gd87-05-03d3t07.flac
   156:05.43     1652088148 B                            0.5940  (23 files)

Comments

Date: 08/01/2006
User: btet
This source is deprecated in favor of the Hinko source (shnid 18848). I had to do a crossfade to achieve seamlessness, and the difference in quality before and after the crossfade is audible. The Hinko source doesn't have this problem; it's also seamless and a very good sounding straight SBD. I chucked my edit (this source) after downloading the Hinko seed.
Date: 11/09/2006
User: btet
This was inadvertently FLAC encoded with replaygain. If you're playing the FLACs in Winamp you should reFLAC the files without the replaygain option. If you're burning extracted .wavs to CD, these are unaffected and no reFLACing is necessary. I apologize for the error.