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Grateful Dead 09/21/1982

Madison Square Garden, New York, NY
SHNID 34754
Source Summary
flac16; Pitch corrected version of shn id 33684: SBD -> Cassette Master -> Dat by Bill Tetzeli. Note Added 11/9/08: Reflac version w/o replay gain added. See info file for details
Entered by Matt Vernon
Checksums flac-md5, ffp, orig-flac-replaygain-md5
Disc Counts 2 / 3
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
05/21/2006
05/22/2006
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Archive Identifier gd1982-09-21.sbd.miller.tetzeli.fix-33684.34754.reflac.flac16 ↗

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Grateful Dead - September 21, 1982
Madison Square Garden - New York, NY
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Pitch-corrected fix of Charlie Miller's 4/3/06 seed

Charlie gave me the go-ahead to have a crack at adjusting the pitch on
this show.  After about 24 hours listening off and on and trying to
match Brent's electronic piano with a virtual keyboard on my laptop,
I've decided on a pitch/time stretch of 101.8% from the intro through
Loser, then a stretch of 100.7% for the rest of the show - it sounds
like the first 45 minutes were played on a different deck.  CAVEAT:
this source suffers from that wonderful cassette artifact, tape wow.
That made it extremely hard to pin the pitch.  Precision is not only
not guaranteed, it is expressly disavowed - the only thing I can
promise is the pitch on this new source is more accurate than it
originally was.

Bill Tetzeli (btet@adelphia.net)
7:30 PM 5/21/2006
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When this source was first circulated, the flac files contained
REPLAYGAIN tags. The wav files compressed inside the flac files are
fine, but if you listen to the flac files themselves using a player
like WinAMP, these tags cause all the tracks to be played at the same
volume. That's not good for concerts where some tracks are supposed to
be louder than others.

There's a new version of this source available. It has exactly the
same wav files; it's just the flac wrapper that's different, the
wrapper doesn't have REPLAYGAIN set anymore. The new version has the
same ffp file (since the wav's are the same), but a new md5 file
(since the flac files are different). The md5 file for the old source
is called "orig-flac-replaygain-md5"; the md5 file for the good new
source is called "flac-md5". If you have a source for this that
matches the ffp, you can create the new source by unflac'ing the old
source and then recompressing at flac level 8 using the flac command
line tool or the flac frontend.

From now on, only the new version of the source should be circulated.

SteveSw - Nov, 2008
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Recording Info:
SBD -> Cassette Master -> Dat

Transfer Info:
Dat (Sony D8) -> CD (Tascam CDRW700) -> Samplitude Professional v7.02 -> FLAC
(3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC)

All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller
charliemiller87@earthlink.net
April 3, 2006

Patch Info:
(FOB/18th Row) Senn 421>Cm>CD>Samplitude>WAV (Recorded By Jim Wise)
Loser patched from 5:29 - 5:36
Not Fade Away patched from 0:09 - 0:24

Notes:
-- Seamless transition between Discs 2 and 3
-- Dat to CD transfer done October 1999
-- I can not confirm the lineage, but that is how my Dat was labeled

Set 1:
d1t01 - Introduction By John Scher
d1t02 - Playing In The Band ->
d1t03 - Crazy Fingers ->
d1t04 - Me And My Uncle ->
d1t05 - Big River
d1t06 - West L.A. Fadeaway
d1t07 - Beat It On Down The Line
d1t08 - Loser
d1t09 - Looks Like Rain
d1t10 - China Cat Sunflower ->
d1t11 - I Know You Rider

Set 2:
d2t01 - Touch Of Grey ->
d2t02 - Samson And Delilah
d2t03 - High Time
d2t04 - Estimated Prophet ->
d2t05 - He's Gone ->
d2t06 - Drums ->
d3t01 - Space ->
d3t02 - Throwing Stones ->
d3t03 - Not Fade Away ->
d3t04 - Black Peter ->
d3t05 - Good Lovin'

Encore:
d3t06 - U.S. Blues

==========

    length     expanded size    cdr  WAVE problems  fmt   ratio  filename
     0:26.52        4708748 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6128  gd82-09-21d1t01.flac
    10:05.68      106881980 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6715  gd82-09-21d1t02.flac
    10:02.51      106312796 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6643  gd82-09-21d1t03.flac
     3:01.19       31973132 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6711  gd82-09-21d1t04.flac
     6:26.00       68090444 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6842  gd82-09-21d1t05.flac
     8:11.40       86706524 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6706  gd82-09-21d1t06.flac
     3:28.00       36691244 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6980  gd82-09-21d1t07.flac
     7:07.38       75412220 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6587  gd82-09-21d1t08.flac
     8:42.01       92083196 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6324  gd82-09-21d1t09.flac
     5:53.09       62290412 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6765  gd82-09-21d1t10.flac
     6:31.44       69075932 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6969  gd82-09-21d1t11.flac
     6:45.54       71569052 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.7274  gd82-09-21d2t01.flac
     8:02.71       85191836 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.7095  gd82-09-21d2t02.flac
     8:08.61       86226716 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6394  gd82-09-21d2t03.flac
    13:16.16      140452076 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6492  gd82-09-21d2t04.flac
    10:51.55      114965804 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6507  gd82-09-21d2t05.flac
     6:20.12       67060268 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6795  gd82-09-21d2t06.flac
     8:26.70       89423084 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.5776  gd82-09-21d3t01.flac
     6:03.13       64063820 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6953  gd82-09-21d3t02.flac
     7:08.30       75569804 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6748  gd82-09-21d3t03.flac
     9:22.27       99200348 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6473  gd82-09-21d3t04.flac
     9:38.08      101978060 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6860  gd82-09-21d3t05.flac
     4:51.23       51386540 B   ---   --   ---xx   flac  0.6888  gd82-09-21d3t06.flac
   168:52.12     1787314036 B                            0.6665  (23 files)

Comments

Date: 09/07/2006
This is slow
Date: 09/12/2006
I'm 99% sure that this, along with all other sources, has another analog gen in it....
Date: 11/09/2006
User: btet
This was inadvertently FLAC encoded with replaygain. If you're playing the FLACs in Winamp you should reFLAC the files without the replaygain option. If you're burning extracted .wavs to CD, these are unaffected and no reFLACing is necessary. I apologize for the error.
Date: 11/09/2006
User: btet
I'm not sure if it's slow or not. I am sure that the pitch adjustment exaggerated the tape wow enough to make it sound worse than the original source, regardless of pitch accuracy.