Grateful Dead 02/19/1969
Fillmore West, San Francisco, CA
Source Summary
SBD> MC> D> CD; start of Lovelight clipped, ragged sound improves later; via thecore@core.com
SBD> MC> D> CD; start of Lovelight clipped, ragged sound improves later; via thecore@core.com
Other Sources
Admin note on 4/17/2011- this source is now thought to be from 2/19/69 and has been moved to that date. The info file and track names reflect the original date assignment.
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Grateful Dead
6-19-68
Carousel Ballroom, San Francisco
SBD>MC>D>CD
DISC 1
1. //Lovelight-->
2. Not Fade Awa-->
3. Lovelight
4. Stage Banter
5. Chanting
DISC 2
1. Jam-->
2. The Main Ten-->
3. Jam-->
4. The Other One Jam
This is a very strange show. The start of Lovelight is clipped, with the recording improving from what is a ragged condition at first. The sound system has technical difficulties, with an intermittent buzz during portions of Lovelight from a bad electrical connection. There is some minor static at 9:30 of the first track. The vocals are very low in the mix, and difficulties with the sound system might explain a lack of singing during the second set, though the jams are very inspired. The recording includes a group chant between sets, which may include members of the band, crowd, a woman who sounds like Grace Slick, a child, an imposter-drummer, security etc.
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Grateful Dead
6-19-68
Carousel Ballroom, San Francisco
SBD>MC>D>CD
DISC 1
1. //Lovelight-->
2. Not Fade Awa-->
3. Lovelight
4. Stage Banter
5. Chanting
DISC 2
1. Jam-->
2. The Main Ten-->
3. Jam-->
4. The Other One Jam
This is a very strange show. The start of Lovelight is clipped, with the recording improving from what is a ragged condition at first. The sound system has technical difficulties, with an intermittent buzz during portions of Lovelight from a bad electrical connection. There is some minor static at 9:30 of the first track. The vocals are very low in the mix, and difficulties with the sound system might explain a lack of singing during the second set, though the jams are very inspired. The recording includes a group chant between sets, which may include members of the band, crowd, a woman who sounds like Grace Slick, a child, an imposter-drummer, security etc.
Comments
Date: 03/06/2003
User:
Brian
call me crazy but this is either not from 1968 or it is the first time the Dead played Not Fade Away.
I'm guessing that it's not from '68.
I'm guessing that it's not from '68.
Date: 03/06/2003
User:
Diana
Like so many of their years, IMO the Dead's sound in '68 was distinct from other years, so you should be able to date it by year just by listening.
Date: 03/12/2003
User:
Jim Van Houten
Brian.....You're Crazy!!!
This is from Bear's Ampex C-90 Cm
This is from Bear's Ampex C-90 Cm
Date: 03/12/2003
User:
raoulduke
my deadbase X does indeed have this liated as the 1st known NFA
Date: 03/16/2003
User:
Brian
Allright, Allright
I'm nutso!
I actually just got this show and it is definitely '68. Interesting NFA, they approached it with a brevity that has changed considerably since. This is surely one of the stranger dead shows....
I'm nutso!
I actually just got this show and it is definitely '68. Interesting NFA, they approached it with a brevity that has changed considerably since. This is surely one of the stranger dead shows....
Date: 10/21/2003
User:
Eric
Definitely John Cipollina playing guitar on d2t01-d2t03.
Possibly an additional musician on percussion as well.
Possibly an additional musician on percussion as well.
Date: 03/12/2005
User:
dms
disc counts = 1/2
Is this also the first known version of "The Main Ten"? Stellar jams on this one...
Date: 05/21/2006
User:
Matt Vernon
This was posted on a dnc thread by Charlie Miller: "6/19/68
From Mike Dolgushkin: The show that circulates as 6/19/68 is misdated. It's actually 2/19/69--the Celestial Synapse at the Fillmore West. I listened to it not long ago and thought "no way this is June of '68." It sounded real close in time to the Live Dead stuff, and you can hear TC poking out of the murk from time to time. Plus, it includes both Not Fade Away and The Main Ten, which started appearing on a more/less regular basis in April of '69.What clinched the date was reading the Rolling Stone review of the Celestial Synapse in the booklet that came with the Fillmore box set. It describes everybody in the Fillmore getting naked and crazy at about two in the morning, among them Don McCoy from Olompali, who took the stage and started rapping. Bill Graham had to keep the security people from pulling him off. Anyway, on this tape, after Lovelight, you hear a bunch of whooping and hollering, after which someone gets on stage and announces "Hi, my name's Don McCoy." Apparently the date that's written on the vault copy is hard to read; Dick originally thought it said 8/29/68. Another mystery solved. Tell your friends! "
From Mike Dolgushkin: The show that circulates as 6/19/68 is misdated. It's actually 2/19/69--the Celestial Synapse at the Fillmore West. I listened to it not long ago and thought "no way this is June of '68." It sounded real close in time to the Live Dead stuff, and you can hear TC poking out of the murk from time to time. Plus, it includes both Not Fade Away and The Main Ten, which started appearing on a more/less regular basis in April of '69.What clinched the date was reading the Rolling Stone review of the Celestial Synapse in the booklet that came with the Fillmore box set. It describes everybody in the Fillmore getting naked and crazy at about two in the morning, among them Don McCoy from Olompali, who took the stage and started rapping. Bill Graham had to keep the security people from pulling him off. Anyway, on this tape, after Lovelight, you hear a bunch of whooping and hollering, after which someone gets on stage and announces "Hi, my name's Don McCoy." Apparently the date that's written on the vault copy is hard to read; Dick originally thought it said 8/29/68. Another mystery solved. Tell your friends! "
Date: 05/21/2006
User:
Charlie Miller
More from TC about this being 2/16/69:
Sounds right to me. June of '68 was before my time.
Celestial Synapse should be easily enough confirmed.
Cheers and everything,
TC
Sounds right to me. June of '68 was before my time.
Celestial Synapse should be easily enough confirmed.
Cheers and everything,
TC
Date: 02/08/2008
User:
charlie miller
If you listen to The Other One, you can tell that it is early 69. The song did not sound like that in June 68. It is much more developed on this recording...thus making 2/19/69 more likely the correct date.
Date: 04/17/2011
User:
mvernon
on 4/17/2011, the show for this shnid was changed from 6/19/68 to 2/19/69.
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