Grateful Dead 07/19/1974
Selland Arena, Fresno, CA
Source Summary
complete; Master Reel> Cassette(1)> DAT@44.1K> DAT> WAV> Soundforge 4.0> CDWAV> SHN w/seek tables appended; DAT> WAV via Sony SDT-9000 DDS Drive using VDat DAT seed from Rob Eaton, DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch, QC by dankseeds; see info file for flaw and editing notes; see pub comments for d2 md5 notes (Upgrade now in circulation.)
complete; Master Reel> Cassette(1)> DAT@44.1K> DAT> WAV> Soundforge 4.0> CDWAV> SHN w/seek tables appended; DAT> WAV via Sony SDT-9000 DDS Drive using VDat DAT seed from Rob Eaton, DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch, QC by dankseeds; see info file for flaw and editing notes; see pub comments for d2 md5 notes (Upgrade now in circulation.)
Other Sources
SHNID 217 set 2 partial; MR> DAT> CDR; seed via D. Gans,...
SHNID 12381 MSR > D > CD patched with MAC > C > C > D...
SHNID 32634 flac16 ; Recording Info: SBD -> Master Reel (7...
SHNID 102766 flac16 ; 2 Shure omni mics > Sony portable...
SHNID 102866 flac 16 Source: Recorded by AS and friends...
SHNID 103132 flac16 ; Matrix 60% sbd/40% aud (- 4dbs) sbd...
Grateful Dead
7/19/74
Selland Arena
Fresno, CA
Disc 1 67:37
1. Soundcheck 10:45
-Set I-
2. Bertha 07:14
3. Mexicali 03:51
4. Deal 04:45
5. BIODTL 04:51
6. Row Jimmy 07:53
7. Me & Bobby McGee 06:16
8. Scarlet Begonias 08:50
9. El Paso 04:43
10.Tennessee Jed 08:24
Disc 2 70:02
1. Playin 29:13
-Set II-
2. Brown Eyed Woman 05:32
3. Me & My Uncle 03:04
4. Roses 05:58
5. Jack Straw 05:41
6. He's Gone> 14:53
7. US Blues 05:41
Disc 3 50:35
1. WRS Prelude> 01:25
2. WRS Part I> 04:49
3. Let It Grow> 15:17
4. Spanish Jam> 05:38
5. Eyes> 16:54
6. China Doll 06:32
Fill:set 1.5
7. Phil & Ned 12:52
Note: This show can be put to disc in correct order by inserting Phil & Ned after Playin on disc 2, and moving He's Gone and U.S. Blues to disc 3
Known Flaws:
Some intermittent buzzing during soundcheck
No guitars or bass in beginning of Bertha
Reel Flip Row Jimmy
Left Channel Loss Row Jimmy ~0:37:00 - corrected as best as possible using channel converter
diginoise WRS 2:21:23-2:21:28 fixed in soundforge
vault reel missing Saturday Night after China Doll
Source:
SBD>Master Reel>Cassette(1)>DAT@44.1K>DAT>WAV>Soundforge 4.0>CDWAV>SHN w/seek tables appended
DAT>WAV via Sony SDT-9000 DDS Drive using VDat. Each DAT extracted twice and compared (error logs below)
DAT seed from Rob Eaton, 6/2001
DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch, 6/2001
Editing limited to crossfading of reel flips between songs and the spots mentioned above in Row Jimmy and WRS - no bulk processing or resampling of the wav was performed
Phil & Ned source: AUD> Master Cassette (unknown mics>Sony TC- 152) > 7.5" reel > CD (0)> CD(1)>EAC> SHN
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DAT error logs:
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Set I DAT extraction:
different samples (4 places):
0:00:48.120 - 0:00:48.150
0:00:49.050 - 0:00:49.081
0:00:49.170 - 0:00:49.233
0:00:56.393 - 0:00:56.399
#1: 363 missing samples at 0:21:45:081
#2: 0:00:00.008 longer
all areas where samples differ were compared, no audible errors are present. Extraction#2 was used for this seed
set II DAT extraction:
#1: 363 missing samples 1:19:42.861
#2: 00:00:0.008 longer
extraction #2 used for this seed
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____________________________________________________________________________
*Dankseed Certification received 01-07-08*
and posted at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dankseeds/files/gd74-07-19/
Listening test performed by *5* danksters
positive criteria met:
Tracking- OK
Seamless and complete- OK
Lineage listed- OK
negative criteria met:
DAE- NO
Resampled- NO
Diginoise- NO
___________________________________________________________________________
7/19/74
Selland Arena
Fresno, CA
Disc 1 67:37
1. Soundcheck 10:45
-Set I-
2. Bertha 07:14
3. Mexicali 03:51
4. Deal 04:45
5. BIODTL 04:51
6. Row Jimmy 07:53
7. Me & Bobby McGee 06:16
8. Scarlet Begonias 08:50
9. El Paso 04:43
10.Tennessee Jed 08:24
Disc 2 70:02
1. Playin 29:13
-Set II-
2. Brown Eyed Woman 05:32
3. Me & My Uncle 03:04
4. Roses 05:58
5. Jack Straw 05:41
6. He's Gone> 14:53
7. US Blues 05:41
Disc 3 50:35
1. WRS Prelude> 01:25
2. WRS Part I> 04:49
3. Let It Grow> 15:17
4. Spanish Jam> 05:38
5. Eyes> 16:54
6. China Doll 06:32
Fill:set 1.5
7. Phil & Ned 12:52
Note: This show can be put to disc in correct order by inserting Phil & Ned after Playin on disc 2, and moving He's Gone and U.S. Blues to disc 3
Known Flaws:
Some intermittent buzzing during soundcheck
No guitars or bass in beginning of Bertha
Reel Flip Row Jimmy
Left Channel Loss Row Jimmy ~0:37:00 - corrected as best as possible using channel converter
diginoise WRS 2:21:23-2:21:28 fixed in soundforge
vault reel missing Saturday Night after China Doll
Source:
SBD>Master Reel>Cassette(1)>DAT@44.1K>DAT>WAV>Soundforge 4.0>CDWAV>SHN w/seek tables appended
DAT>WAV via Sony SDT-9000 DDS Drive using VDat. Each DAT extracted twice and compared (error logs below)
DAT seed from Rob Eaton, 6/2001
DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch, 6/2001
Editing limited to crossfading of reel flips between songs and the spots mentioned above in Row Jimmy and WRS - no bulk processing or resampling of the wav was performed
Phil & Ned source: AUD> Master Cassette (unknown mics>Sony TC- 152) > 7.5" reel > CD (0)> CD(1)>EAC> SHN
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DAT error logs:
-------------------------------------------------------
Set I DAT extraction:
different samples (4 places):
0:00:48.120 - 0:00:48.150
0:00:49.050 - 0:00:49.081
0:00:49.170 - 0:00:49.233
0:00:56.393 - 0:00:56.399
#1: 363 missing samples at 0:21:45:081
#2: 0:00:00.008 longer
all areas where samples differ were compared, no audible errors are present. Extraction#2 was used for this seed
set II DAT extraction:
#1: 363 missing samples 1:19:42.861
#2: 00:00:0.008 longer
extraction #2 used for this seed
--------------------------------------------------------
____________________________________________________________________________
*Dankseed Certification received 01-07-08*
and posted at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dankseeds/files/gd74-07-19/
Listening test performed by *5* danksters
positive criteria met:
Tracking- OK
Seamless and complete- OK
Lineage listed- OK
negative criteria met:
DAE- NO
Resampled- NO
Diginoise- NO
___________________________________________________________________________
Comments
Other Sources (comments)
set 2 partial; MR> DAT>... (2)
MSR > D > CD patched with... (7)
flac16 ; Recording Info:... (3)
flac16 ; 2 Shure omni mics... (0)
flac 16 Source: Recorded... (0)
flac16 ; Matrix 60%... (0)
set 2 partial; MR> DAT>... (2)
MSR > D > CD patched with... (7)
flac16 ; Recording Info:... (3)
flac16 ; 2 Shure omni mics... (0)
flac 16 Source: Recorded... (0)
flac16 ; Matrix 60%... (0)
Date: 07/18/2001
User:
Brian Walker
SHNTOOL reports extra data contained in the wav file for d2t02.
This condition is not harmful to the audio and you would only need to worry about it if you were editing this WAV file and the extra data confused your editor. In that case you can use SHNTOOL in "strip" mode to eliminate the extra data. Fun show!
This condition is not harmful to the audio and you would only need to worry about it if you were editing this WAV file and the extra data confused your editor. In that case you can use SHNTOOL in "strip" mode to eliminate the extra data. Fun show!
Date: 09/06/2001
User:
darryl norsen
i see someone noted extra information on d2t2, but my question is would this affect the md5's? because i've downloaded d2t2 3 times now (once on fikus.etree.org, and twice on nycheads.com) and all 3 times its failed its verification. if anybody else had (or didnt for that matter) this trouble would they let me know. thanks!
Date: 09/06/2001
User:
darryl norsen
problem has been solved! i believe the md5 was downloaded off fikus.etree.org before i was disconnected and had to finish the show off on nycheads. therefore i went back and downloaded the md5 off nycheads and the verification went through with flying colors! absolutely amazing show and highly recommended if others havent heard it yet. once again big props to the DANK SEEDS BOYS!!! keep 'em coming!!!!
-darryl.
-darryl.
Date: 09/17/2001
User:
Hamilton, Diana
GJP wrote to etree: "Be aware that the gd74-07-19.dnk show being hosted on
ptt.nycheads is not completely legit. The
gd74-07-19d2t2 *does not match*. The official md5 is:
a9dd98cad39c46f033ae0efa38007d59 *gd74-07-19d2t02.shn
The one up on ptt.nycheads is:
5c03f964d8dc2b7f1ac8a97381f82699 *gd74-07-19d2t02.shn"
ptt.nycheads is not completely legit. The
gd74-07-19d2t2 *does not match*. The official md5 is:
a9dd98cad39c46f033ae0efa38007d59 *gd74-07-19d2t02.shn
The one up on ptt.nycheads is:
5c03f964d8dc2b7f1ac8a97381f82699 *gd74-07-19d2t02.shn"
Given the comments already on this entry, presumably one version (either "nyc" or dnk" version, not sure myself) has had its d2t2 wav header fixed. Note this would not change the music data itself.
In this case I have now listed all versions of d2.md5s (both wav and shn md5s for both nycheads and dankseeds versions) in this same entry. Additional clarifying comments are welcome.
Date: 09/17/2001
User:
Darrin
Diana, re your post referencing GJP's post about the NYCheads version of this show. The bottom line is this:
1) prior to September 11, 2001, the version of d2t2 up at nycheads.com contained the extraneous wav header information that was stripped/removed from the "certified dank" version. Although you are correct in that this extraneous wav header information DOES have absolutely no bearing on the music, etc., it IS a different file than that which was "certified dank" by the dankseeds folks --
2) on (or about) September 11, 2001, the nycheads.com version of this track was changed (along with its md5, etc.) so that now the nycheads.com site has the "certified dank" version of this entire show. If you want to have the true dankseeds version of this show (regardless of whether the music itself unaffected) and downloaded it from nycheads.com prior to September 11, 2001, you should obtain the new version of d2t2.
3) My only additional clarification would be that, in light of my above remarks, the d2md5 entries for the "nyc" versions should probably be changed to NYC(old) or something like that
1) prior to September 11, 2001, the version of d2t2 up at nycheads.com contained the extraneous wav header information that was stripped/removed from the "certified dank" version. Although you are correct in that this extraneous wav header information DOES have absolutely no bearing on the music, etc., it IS a different file than that which was "certified dank" by the dankseeds folks --
2) on (or about) September 11, 2001, the nycheads.com version of this track was changed (along with its md5, etc.) so that now the nycheads.com site has the "certified dank" version of this entire show. If you want to have the true dankseeds version of this show (regardless of whether the music itself unaffected) and downloaded it from nycheads.com prior to September 11, 2001, you should obtain the new version of d2t2.
3) My only additional clarification would be that, in light of my above remarks, the d2md5 entries for the "nyc" versions should probably be changed to NYC(old) or something like that
Date: 09/18/2001
User:
Diana Hamilton
Thanks Darrin! To be clearer I've now omitted the nyc reference. The d2 md5 files that match the d2t2 with the extra header info are now denoted d2oldshn and d2oldwav in the listing here. The md5 files d2dnkshn and d2dnkwav match the dankseed, corrected version with stripped-header d2t2.
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