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Phish 08/01/1998

Alpine Valley Music Theatre, East Troy, WI
SHNID 4787
Source Summary
FOB Schoeps mk41 > kc5 > CMC6 > SX-M2 > AD1000 > DAP1 @48kHz (DFC, ORTF); Sony PCM-R500 > Audio Magic Presto II > Delta Di0 2496 > Soundforge 4.5 (48>44.1kHz) > CDWav > mkwACT > SHNv3; Taped by Mikey; Note: This is an updated source of what previously circulated; Additional Note: "fixed" md5 (fixed SBE by show) by Matt Vernon on 12/29/03
Entered by Matt Vernon
Checksums d1, d2, d3, all_fixed, flac_ffp, fixed.st5, original.st5
Disc Counts 0 / 3
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
7/18/01
02/15/2004
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Other Sources
SHNID 753 AKG 414; checksums added January 2018 from "JJ"
SHNID 1678 Schoeps cmc6/mk41 > sonosax sx-m2 > dap1; Sony...
SHNID 78674 (FOB) Neumann km140 > Lunatec V2 > Sony SBM-1 @...
SHNID 125308 flac16, 48kHz ; NAK 300 w/ cp4 shotguns > Sony...
SHNID 126372 flac16 ; Schoeps CMC6/MK41 > Sonosax SX-M2 >...
SHNID 126373 flac16 48kHz ; Microtech Gefell M210; DAT(c) @...
SHNID 135218 flac16 OTS - Neumann km184s > Mackie 1202vlz...
SHNID 138353 flac16, 48kHz ; Audio Technica 815 shotguns...
SHNID 151773 flac16 48kHz Schoeps MK41 > Sonosax SX-M2 >...
SHNID 152558 flac16/48 Source: Schoeps cmc6/mk41 > Audio...
Phish
08-01-1998
Alpine Valley Music Center - East Troy, WI

Source:     Schoeps MK41>KC5>CMC6>SX-M2>AD1000>DAP1 @ 48kHz (FOB/BTP/DFC/ORTF)
    (Taped by  mikey unidecker@mediaone.net)

Conversion: Sony PCM-R500 > Audio Magic Presto II > Delta Di0 2496 >
    Soundforge 4.5 (48>44.1) > cdwav > MKWact (SHNv3)
    (edlhubermj18@mail.uww.edu)

Updated .shns: (see note below)

Disc I
~Set I~
1. Ramble On*
2. Mike's Song >
3. Esther >
4. Weekapaug Groove
5. Guyute
6. Ficus
7. Birds of a Feather
8. Lawn Boy
9. Funky Bitch
Total: 71:40

Disc II
~Set II~
1. Piper
2. Wilson >
3. Also Sprach Zarathustra >
4. Magilla >
5. Also Sprach Zarathrustra >
6. Tweezer
7. Fluffhead
8. Brian and Robert
9. Albequerque
Total: 69:24

Disc III
1. Chalk Dust Torture >
2. Frankenstein
~Encore~
3. Been Caught Stealin'*
4. Tweezer Reprise
Total: 21:38

*debut


Notes: Fade In/Out done in Soundforge.  I also added a bit of leader
from another source to piper(the start of set 2) because a couple notes
of piper were missed on the master.  So @ 52 seconds into piper you hear
the splice.  The notes are correct but you hear the difference from being
way back in the tapers section to fob.  So the spliced source for the first 52
seconds of crowd noise before piper is Schoeps MK41/CMC6>SX-M2>DAP1
(in tapers section).  Thanks to mikey for the smokin tapes.
enjoy~

Compiled 6-18-01 (edlhubermj18@mail.uww.edu)

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NOTE: I received these .shns from the person who converted them originally (edlhubermj18@mail.uww.edu), and found, using shntool, that 3 tracks were not cut on sector boundaries. They were:
d1t09
d2t01
d3t04

d2t01 definitely had to be fixed, as it caused a nasty click during the transition from d2t01 to d2t02 when listening to the audio on a CDR burned in DAO mode. d1t09 and d3t04 were fixed for good measure as well; whenever shows start to be put on new media (DVD-R?) and are subject to new tracking, this show can be sequenced in any way desired without any problems.

Original sector boundary errors found using:
SHNTOOL version 1.01
Copyright 2001 Jason Jordan (shnutils@freeshell.org)
.shn utilities page:  http://shnutils.freeshell.org/

After sector boundaries were fixed, I converted back to SHNv3 from .wav using MKWact, and renamed all files back to their original filenames, removing the '-fixed' appended to each file by shntool, and redid the .md5s to match the new files (this is the only set of .shns from this show *from this new DAT source* that is available, so having the '-fixed' indicator wasn't necessary; the .shns with errors were never circulated before being fixed).

Log info from shntool output is provided in the file ph98-08-01fob_sector_issues.txt.

RECORDING COMMENTS: Aside from what is written above about the lead-in source spliced  for Piper (d2t01; a very minor portion was missing from this FOB source), there is only one questionable noise I can hear on this show after about 4 listens. At 1:39 of d2t08 (Brian and Robert), there is a pop in the left channel. I am 99.9% sure it is a balloon pop, and not a digital error.
What does that mean? This show is clean! Please circulate if you enjoy this new FOB source of this great show over any others already out there!


Compiled 7-18-01 (jriordan35@aol.com)



=====================================================
Shntool output showing ERRORS on original .shn set
=====================================================

C:unzippedshntool>shntool.exe len -u mb //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1.shnf/*.shn
    length     expanded size   cdr  WAVE  probs   filename
     6:33.05      69337004     ---   --    -xx   //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d1.shnf/ph98-08-01d1t01.shn
    12:35.40     133276124     ---   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d1.shnf/ph98-08-01d1t02.shn
     9:28.15     100230524     ---   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d1.shnf/ph98-08-01d1t03.shn
    13:16.11     140440316     ---   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d1.shnf/ph98-08-01d1t04.shn
    10:15.45     108591884     ---   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d1.shnf/ph98-08-01d1t05.shn
     2:52.57      30474908     ---   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d1.shnf/ph98-08-01d1t06.shn
     6:26.74      68264492     ---   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d1.shnf/ph98-08-01d1t07.shn
     3:03.40      32375324     ---   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d1.shnf/ph98-08-01d1t08.shn
     7:08.22      75550520     -b-   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d1.shnf/ph98-08-01d1t09.shn
    71:40.09        723.40 MB                     (totals for 9 files)

C:unzippedshntool>shntool.exe len -u mb //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d2.shnf/*.shn
    length     expanded size   cdr  WAVE  probs   filename
     8:00.08      84691454     -b-   -e    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d2.shnf/ph98-08-01d2t01.shn
     7:50.66      83063276     ---   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d2.shnf/ph98-08-01d2t02.shn
     9:22.13      99167420     ---   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d2.shnf/ph98-08-01d2t03.shn
     2:31.09      26657612     ---   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d2.shnf/ph98-08-01d2t04.shn
     0:08.09       1432412     ---   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d2.shnf/ph98-08-01d2t05.shn
    18:31.18     196022780     ---   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d2.shnf/ph98-08-01d2t06.shn
    15:18.19     161979932     ---   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d2.shnf/ph98-08-01d2t07.shn
     3:40.07      38824508     ---   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d2.shnf/ph98-08-01d2t08.shn
     4:02.25      42747644     ---   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d2.shnf/ph98-08-01d2t09.shn
    69:24.24        700.56 MB                     (totals for 9 files)

C:unzippedshntool>shntool.exe len -u mb //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d3.shnf/*.shn
    length     expanded size   cdr  WAVE  probs   filename
     7:05.23      75024140     ---   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d3.shnf/ph98-08-01d3t01.shn
     6:41.48      70849340     ---   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d3.shnf/ph98-08-01d3t02.shn
     3:50.67      40729628     ---   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d3.shnf/ph98-08-01d3t03.shn
     4:00.30      42407076     -b-   --    -xx    //f/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08
-01d3.shnf/ph98-08-01d3t04.shn
    21:38.18        218.40 MB                     (totals for 4 files)

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Shntool output showing FIXES made on original .shn set
=====================================================

Disc I of the show was repaired to fix the sector boundary error that was present on d1t09. Here is the log:

C:unzippedshntool>shntool fix -o wav -s b -d //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph9
8-08-01d1 -noskip //e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1.shnf/*.shn
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1.shnf/ph98-08-01d1t01.shn --> //c/servin/ph98
-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t01-fixed.wav ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1.shnf/ph98-08-01d1t02.shn --> //c/servin/ph98
-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t02-fixed.wav ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1.shnf/ph98-08-01d1t03.shn --> //c/servin/ph98
-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t03-fixed.wav ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1.shnf/ph98-08-01d1t04.shn --> //c/servin/ph98
-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t04-fixed.wav ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1.shnf/ph98-08-01d1t05.shn --> //c/servin/ph98
-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t05-fixed.wav ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1.shnf/ph98-08-01d1t06.shn --> //c/servin/ph98
-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t06-fixed.wav ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1.shnf/ph98-08-01d1t07.shn --> //c/servin/ph98
-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t07-fixed.wav ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1.shnf/ph98-08-01d1t08.shn --> //c/servin/ph98
-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t08-fixed.wav ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1.shnf/ph98-08-01d1t09.shn --> //c/servin/ph98
-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t09-fixed.wav ... done.
Padded '//c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t09-fixed.wav' wi
th 468 zero-bytes.

Disc II of the show was repaired to fix the sector boundary error that was present on d2t01. Here is the log:
(Note: I accidentally set the output as .shn for disc II, which messed up the seekability of the new .shns, so I converted them to .wav and then back to SHNv3 using MKWact. Still totally lossless and not something to worry about. I'm just being completely detailed about the lineage.)

C:unzippedshntool>shntool fix -o shn -s b -d //c/servin/ -noskip //e/ph98-08-0
1fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d2.shnf/*.shn
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d2.shnf/ph98-08-01d2t01.shn --> //c/servin//ph9
8-08-01d2t01-fixed.shn ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d2.shnf/ph98-08-01d2t02.shn --> //c/servin//ph9
8-08-01d2t02-fixed.shn ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d2.shnf/ph98-08-01d2t03.shn --> //c/servin//ph9
8-08-01d2t03-fixed.shn ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d2.shnf/ph98-08-01d2t04.shn --> //c/servin//ph9
8-08-01d2t04-fixed.shn ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d2.shnf/ph98-08-01d2t05.shn --> //c/servin//ph9
8-08-01d2t05-fixed.shn ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d2.shnf/ph98-08-01d2t06.shn --> //c/servin//ph9
8-08-01d2t06-fixed.shn ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d2.shnf/ph98-08-01d2t07.shn --> //c/servin//ph9
8-08-01d2t07-fixed.shn ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d2.shnf/ph98-08-01d2t08.shn --> //c/servin//ph9
8-08-01d2t08-fixed.shn ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d2.shnf/ph98-08-01d2t09.shn --> //c/servin//ph9
8-08-01d2t09-fixed.shn ... done.
Padded '//c/servin//ph98-08-01d2t09-fixed.shn' with 1936 zero-bytes.

Disc III of the show was repaired to fix the sector boundary error that was present on d3t04. Here is the log:

C:unzippedshntool>shntool fix -o wav -s b -d //c/servin/ph98-08-01d3 -noskip /
/e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d3.shnf/*.shn
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d3.shnf/ph98-08-01d3t01.shn --> //c/servin/ph98
-08-01d3/ph98-08-01d3t01-fixed.wav ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d3.shnf/ph98-08-01d3t02.shn --> //c/servin/ph98
-08-01d3/ph98-08-01d3t02-fixed.wav ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d3.shnf/ph98-08-01d3t03.shn --> //c/servin/ph98
-08-01d3/ph98-08-01d3t03-fixed.wav ... done.
//e/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d3.shnf/ph98-08-01d3t04.shn --> //c/servin/ph98
-08-01d3/ph98-08-01d3t04-fixed.wav ... done.
Padded '//c/servin/ph98-08-01d3/ph98-08-01d3t04-fixed.wav' with 1880 zero-bytes.

=====================================================
Shntool output showing updated information (ERROR-FREE) after processing
of NEW .shn set
=====================================================

C:unzippedshntool>shntool len -u mb //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d1
/*.shn
    length     expanded size   cdr  WAVE  probs   filename
     6:33.05      69337004     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t01.shn
    12:35.40     133276124     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t02.shn
     9:28.15     100230524     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t03.shn
    13:16.11     140440316     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t04.shn
    10:15.45     108591884     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t05.shn
     2:52.57      30474908     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t06.shn
     6:26.74      68264492     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t07.shn
     3:03.40      32375324     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t08.shn
     7:08.22      75550988     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d1/ph98-08-01d1t09.shn
    71:40.09        723.40 MB                     (totals for 9 files)

C:unzippedshntool>shntool len -u mb //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d2
/*.shn
    length     expanded size   cdr  WAVE  probs   filename
     8:00.08      84690860     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d2/ph98-08-01d2t01.shn
     7:50.66      83063276     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d2/ph98-08-01d2t02.shn
     9:22.13      99167420     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d2/ph98-08-01d2t03.shn
     2:31.09      26657612     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d2/ph98-08-01d2t04.shn
     0:08.09       1432412     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d2/ph98-08-01d2t05.shn
    18:31.18     196022780     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d2/ph98-08-01d2t06.shn
    15:18.19     161979932     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d2/ph98-08-01d2t07.shn
     3:40.07      38824508     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d2/ph98-08-01d2t08.shn
     4:02.26      42749996     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d2/ph98-08-01d2t09.shn
    69:24.25        700.56 MB                     (totals for 9 files)

C:unzippedshntool>shntool len -u mb //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/ph98-08-01d3
/*.shn
    length     expanded size   cdr  WAVE  probs   filename
     7:05.23      75024140     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d3/ph98-08-01d3t01.shn
     6:41.48      70849340     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d3/ph98-08-01d3t02.shn
     3:50.67      40729628     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d3/ph98-08-01d3t03.shn
     4:00.31      42408956     ---   --    -xx    //c/servin/ph98-08-01fob.shnf/
ph98-08-01d3/ph98-08-01d3t04.shn
    21:38.19        218.40 MB                     (totals for 4 files)



Compiled 7-18-01 (jriordan35@aol.com)





Comments

Date: 08/01/2001
"NOTE: This is an updated source (fixed sector boundaries) of what previously circulated."


The above statement is incorrect. This FOB DAT source never circulated before the .shns listed here were released. I was given the show in .shn format, and I found the errors on it, so I fixed them, and then seeded the fixed version. There is no version of this show from this DAT source that circulates with sector boundary errors.
Date: 08/26/2001
User: carlivar
There's a guy talking now and then in the second set (I haven't listened to the 1st set yet). Pretty normal since it's FOB, and it's definitely not very bad, but annoying nonetheless. The sound on this is very clear overall but I think I like the bass on the AKG 414 source better. Both sources are pretty good though, especially for Alpine.
Date: 10/07/2003
User: twatts
Is the patch from this source???
Date: 12/28/2003
User: CrazyED
That is the patch source, they are definatly different. Not mislabeled. I xfered them both myself.
Date: 02/10/2009
User: bvaz
can anyone comment on the what the all_fixed md5 represents? at first, I thought it was a SBE fix, but that was done in 2001 with the original md5s.
Date: 06/13/2012
User: geewiz010
FLAC fingerprints (converted using fileset that matches original md5s) :


ph1998-08-01d1t01.flac:c38e68a7ce715f4228f7ec5c3314a726
ph1998-08-01d1t02.flac:4f29ed16e40301efe925e7288a9702b6
ph1998-08-01d1t03.flac:224247f228a516ad7dd91c7c4d89b8c8
ph1998-08-01d1t04.flac:b0a83b9618baaad5b76da3a0823d048b
ph1998-08-01d1t05.flac:de6ab51acd68885c77edeb464188038e
ph1998-08-01d1t06.flac:409d69e08d4ea6c93dbe6a9f829be3fc
ph1998-08-01d1t07.flac:08d374fc1175e40125f37506fabf0edc
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