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Grateful Dead 08/17/1991

Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View, CA
SHNID 497
Source Summary
SBD -> DAT Master -> DAT Clone -> Tascam DA40 -> (SPDIF)-> SB Live -> SoundForge -> Wav -> Shorten; via J. Josephs, originally named by song, with underscores, apostrophes et al; C. Hannigan renamed and reordered tracks to fit so the encore is at the beginning- see his new info file
Entered by dr.unclear
Checksums orig-shn-md5, shn-md5, st5
Disc Counts 0 / 2
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
11/23/99
07/03/2000
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Archive Identifier gd91-08-17.sbd.josephs.497.sbeok.shnf ↗

Other Sources
SHNID 20696 Source: SBD -> DAT Master -> DAT Clone ->...
SHNID 81572 flac16/48 ; Soundboard->DAT @ 48 kHz->DAT x...
SHNID 94196 flac16 ; Source: Sennheiser ME-80\'s> Technics...
SHNID 107826 flac16 ; Hansokolow matrix of these digital...
SHNID 119208 flac16 ; Source: 2 Neumann KMF4 microphones >...
SHNID 141289 flac24/96 Recording Info: SBD > Cassette...
SHNID 141317 flac16 ; Recording Info: SBD > Cassette Master...
SHNID 149444 flac16/48kHz ; Source Info: Set #1: T/S...
SHNID 151059 flac16/48khz Source : Nak CM-100s > Nak 550 >...
SHNID 151060 flac24/96khz Source : Nak CM-100s > Nak 550 >...
original info file below, followed by new one created by Charles Hannigan:

History: unknown mic -> DAT Master -> DAT Clone -> WAV -> SHN

The quality is very good!

I read the DAT clone from a TASCAM DA-40 with a SPIDIF connection
to a SoundBlaster Live! using Sound Forge XP 4.0. I then split the
master WAV into the individual tracks, which were then compressed
using Shorten.

My editorial goal is to create a CD so that each track flows into
another, with a minimum of Dead air. When the space between the songs
is interesting, I keep it in. Sometimes, I compromise the feeling of
being at the show in order to fit it onto a CD. If it is obvious that
I have the room, I leave the nuances in.

-- jej 11-23-99

--
new info file for retracked version:

gd91-08-17  Shoreline Ampitheater
            Mountain View, CA

I have chosen to put the encore at the beginning
to fit the show on two disks.



Disk 1

01 Encore: It's All Over Now Baby Blue

Set 1

02 Help On The Way >
03 Slipknot >
04 Franklin's Tower
05 Wang Dang Doodle
06 Brown Eyed Women
07 Queen Jane Approximately
08 Tennessee Jed
09 The Music Never Stopped

Set 2

10 The Women Are Smarter
11 Ship Of Fools

Disk2

01 Smokestack Lightning >
02 He's Gone >
03 Jam >
04 Drums >
05 Space >
06 Dark Star Jam >
07 Morning Dew
08 One More Saturday Night




Comments

Date: 12/04/2002
User: RussEasby
The text file says its an audience (unknown mics) and the SHN Entry Comments says its a SBD, so um which is it?
Date: 09/08/2003
User: Chris L.
Original SHN's had sector boundary errors on every track along with extra chunks. Performing a SHNTOOL FIX on these files, grouped by set, and re-encoding to seekable SHN resulted in the following md5 signature:

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Date: 09/08/2003
User: twatts
I know that its too late now, but isn't "interesting" a relative term, that what you find "uninteresting" others may find very "interesting"??? With this in mind, why cut out the space between songs... The show did NOT occur that way, why burn it that way???

And no, to fit onto 1 (or 2 CDRs) is not a good arguement since blanks are now dirt cheap...

Terry

Date: 09/08/2003
User:
Cost of blanks aside, it's a pain to have to switch CDs in the middle of a set when the whole set can fit on one by deleting nothing more than blank space with no music or even tuning or talking. I listen mostly on headphones or in my car, so I do not have a multi-disc changer available. I have no problem with this practice as long as no music, tuning, or band chatter is missing.

I will never, ever circulate shows like this, but for my personal use, I routinely go so far as to even cut out segments of Drums or Space to fit a set II on one CD.
Date: 09/08/2003
User: DSquared
Yeah discs are cheaper, so what? Unless there's some interesting banter or tuning going on, why would I want a track full on nothing?

Just because the show went that way doesn't mean I have to waste my time listening to the "way the show was". It's ludicrous for me to have to wait for Garcia to finish his cigarette just so I can have the "complete" show. My .02 anyway.
Date: 09/08/2003
User:
I'll take the way it actually went down with all the extra stuff. Isn't that the point of archiving live recordings?
Date: 09/08/2003
User: Brian B.
Well,Terry I wouldn't qualify it like that,your comments were warranted. If they want to cut the space out or tunings,they should do it for their selves. I totally agree with leaving it the way it went down,period.