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Grateful Dead 09/22/1991

Boston Garden, Boston, MA
SHNID 530
Source Summary
DSBD> DAT> ZA2> CD-R; 6/99 first seed, some skips in d1 from ZA2 probs; 1/3 retransfer- still a skip? (see pub comment); via Frank Spinale (and to abgd 1/9)
Entered by dr.unclear
Checksums orig-shn-md5, shn-md5, st5
Disc Counts 0 / 2
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
6/99; 1/3/00
04/08/2001
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Archive Identifier gd1991-09-22.sbd.spinale.530.shnf ↗

Other Sources
SHNID 7692 updated lineage SBD > ? [reputed GD master...
SHNID 17180 DSBD>DAT>CD-R>EAC>WAV>ADDAWAV>CDRWAV>SHN (via...
SHNID 34686 flac16 ; SBD > GD MASTER DIGITAL MULTI-TRACK >...
SHNID 83156 flac 16 ; Source: Soundboard -> DAT @ 48kHz....
SHNID 85223 flac16 ; AUD Source: Nakamichi CM-300's w/CP-4...
SHNID 85224 flac16/48 ; AUD Source: Nakamichi CM-300's...
SHNID 101440 flac16 ; Set 1 Only - Lineage: Master DAT...
SHNID 124593 flac24 ; Master Audience Recorded By Mr....
SHNID 124594 flac16 ; Master Audience Recorded By Mr....
SHNID 134354 flac16 ; 3 Source Matrix byDusborne;Soundboard...
SHNID 138149 flac16 ; DSBD Masters DAT-> Panasonic...
SHNID 139817 flac16/48kHz ; source: daud; taped by Dan Liff...
SHNID 150325 flac16/48kHz ; Source: Neuman TLM170 > Oade...
SHNID 150637 flac24 ; Recording Info: SBD > Cassette Master...
SHNID 150681 flac16 ; Recording Info: SBD > Cassette Master...
SHNID 155571 flac16/48 Source: Sennheiser ME88's > Sony...
SHNID 172749 FLAC 1644 Source: 2x Sennheiser ME 88s...
SHNID 172750 FLAC 2496 Source: 2x Sennheiser ME 88s...
Grateful Dead
09-22-91
Boston Garden
Boston, MA
DSBD>DAT>ZA2>CD-R

Disk 1  Total Time:1:11:58

    set 1
1.Shakedown St
2.CC Rider>
3.Lot to Laugh
4.Me & My Uncle>
5.Maggies Farm
6.Brown Eyed Woman
7.Let It Grow
    set 2
8.Sampson & Delilah
9.Aiko Aiko

Disk 2   Total Time:1:07:44

1.L.L. Rain
2.He's Gone>
3.Nobody's Fault but Mine>
4.Spoonful>
5.Drums>
6.Space>
7.The Last Time>
8.Stella Blue>
9.Sugar Magnolia

Enjoy!
fspinale@mediaone.net

Comments

Date: 04/07/2001
User: Tome
D1T1 Shakedown has a skip @ 4:19, (new d1)
Date: 01/04/2003
It seems that all known SDBs of this show in circulation (as far as I know) have a skip in D1T1 at 4:19 and D1T5 at 2:30. I have not seen any "retransfer" to date that addresses this issue. The other version of this show listed on etree is http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=7692 and it says SBD > GD MASTER DIGITAL MULTI-TRACK > MARIN COUNTY DIGITAL MIXDOWN TO DAT > SSSB. This is bullshit in my opinion. It is obviously sourced from the same flawed ZA2 transfer as all the other ones in circulation. The only other possibility is that the "skips" exist on all circulating DATs. The only difference in this "new" seed is that the skips were "spliced" out by Jay Serafin. Big deal. Anyone can do that with a wav editor, and even track it on sector boundaries properly if they wanted to. The real solution to this would be to get a good DAT tape and retransfer it properly so that there are no skips. I have the original 6/99 first seed of this show on CD, and the skips are presumably due to a buffer underrun error on the ZA2 card, not a problem with the DAT. I take offense to the fact that someone "reseeded" this show, when in fact, the source is exactly the same, and they just used a dirty little trick to splice out the skips. My opinion is don't reseed a show unless there is some real value to doing so. Don't just take a flawed version of the show that is already widely circulated and do nasty things to it and claim it to be a new and improved version from a so-called Marin County source. I think this one falls squarely into the category of BUSTED! Regarding the comment about the newer version being oversaturated, it is. However, the original first seed from 6/99 is also oversaturated, so I suspect that this is a problem with the DAT source. Another tip off that both of these seeds are from the same source, and there is no improvement to be realized in the newer seed. The newer seed is on GDLIVE, which is fine, except in the places where the skips are spliced out, there is also a significant amount of show that is spliced out. I would prefer the version with the skips. For instance, the part at 2:30 on D1T5 that has a skip is in Jerry's verse on Maggie's Farm. The skip version still has the phrase "I ain't gonna work for Maggie's Brother no more" in tact, whereas the newer version of the show has that whole portion completely spliced out. In my humble opinion, not the best way to fix a skip. Yes it makes it less noticable, but I would rather not have words and phrases cut out of a show just to smooth over a flaw in the DAT transfer.