Allman Brothers Band 06/27/1971
Fillmore East, New York, NY
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Allman Brothers Band
Fillmore East
New York, NY
June 27, 1971
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EAC'd/Shn'd by Charlie Connor 11/22/01
Correct Sector Boundaries Verified using Shntool
Minor digital editing done to smooth out tape splice between tracks
using Steinberg's Wavelab 3.0.
Special Thanks to Rowland Archer for the CDR's
1. Bill Graham Intro
2. Statesboro Blues
3. Don't Keep Me Wonderin'
4. Done Somebody Wrong
5. One Way Out
6. In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed
7. Midnight Rider
8. Hot 'Lanta
9. Whipping Post
Encore:
10. You Don't Love Me
Note:
This was a private show at the Fillmore East for industry guests - not
open to the public.
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Date: 04/24/2002
User:
Jake Mercatoris shn list
Anyone else notice that One Way Out sounds suspiciously like the version on the ABB's Decade of Hits album (the one with the blue cover). While it is listed as played in ABBbase, I don't think the correct version is represented on this shn set.
Date: 04/24/2002
User:
Jason Moleton
The liner notes from "The Fillmore Concerts" says this version was played 6/27/71. Therefore, it is the correct version for this date.
Date: 06/23/2003
User:
Chris
That is the correct One Way Out, as it was played at this concert. It WAS released, which is why you may hear it (Fillmore Concerts, Eat a Peach).
Great concert here.
Great concert here.
Date: 06/23/2003
User:
Chris (again)
Just wanted to say that after listening to the other Allman concerts I downloaded from 70 and 71, this is the best. The quality is great and the performance was great. The only editing is that One Way Out is taken from a released CD (either The Fillmore Concerts or Eat a Peach) BUT that IS the correct one. The only reason One Way Out was taken from the CD is that it is the highest quality available when taken from a professionally released CD. The editing there is done well.
Date: 06/23/2003
User:
jb
Trading material taken from official releases, even just patched in, is kind of uncool IMO. This is definitely a grey area, but it would probably be best to leave in the original mix of One Way Out in this SHN set. If someone would rather hear the Eat A Peach version, they should go buy Eat A Peach.
Date: 06/25/2003
User:
Alex
I beleive there is a similar thing occuring on the Grateful Dead?s 5/3/72 show, from which i recall straight up that China>Rider was patched in from the master reels for the Europe`72 album, and maybe some more as well. Does this mean that it is uncool to circulate a show that includes songs officially released, meaning the same version, or does it mean that it is wrong to patch in a track from the official release itself ? I don?t seem to recall that there were any bigger objections to this in the Dead trading community, with regards to 5/3/72.
Date: 06/25/2003
User:
jb
This definitely a grey area, so this response is more my opinion on ethical behavior rather than any written policy or accepted practice.
Basically, you shouldn't have officially released material on traded shns (or CDs or flac or whatever). Alternate sources of the same show should be ok (assuming the specific band's trading policy doesn't forbid it). Therefore, if someone had a digitized version of a RTR source of this set to seed and decided to cut out One Way Out and patch in the song from his Eat A Peach CD instead because it "sounds clearer", that is wrong because then the officially released and copyrighted material is now being copied and circulated for free.
The shns of the show should still be circulated, and circulated with One Way Out included (IMO), but not with the album mix of One Way Out replacing the original source. The only situation where I would see using an official release on a circulated shn could possibly be to patch reel changes, tape flips, or generally fill in otherwise missing music for the sake of continuity, as long as the patch isn't a real significant portion of the song. In other words, if there had been a reel change on this version of the show in the middle of One Way Out and maybe a minute or so of music were missing, it might be OK to take that minute from the Eat A Peach mix and patch it in so that the song doesn't have cuts, but that's about it.
Basically, you shouldn't have officially released material on traded shns (or CDs or flac or whatever). Alternate sources of the same show should be ok (assuming the specific band's trading policy doesn't forbid it). Therefore, if someone had a digitized version of a RTR source of this set to seed and decided to cut out One Way Out and patch in the song from his Eat A Peach CD instead because it "sounds clearer", that is wrong because then the officially released and copyrighted material is now being copied and circulated for free.
The shns of the show should still be circulated, and circulated with One Way Out included (IMO), but not with the album mix of One Way Out replacing the original source. The only situation where I would see using an official release on a circulated shn could possibly be to patch reel changes, tape flips, or generally fill in otherwise missing music for the sake of continuity, as long as the patch isn't a real significant portion of the song. In other words, if there had been a reel change on this version of the show in the middle of One Way Out and maybe a minute or so of music were missing, it might be OK to take that minute from the Eat A Peach mix and patch it in so that the song doesn't have cuts, but that's about it.
Date: 06/25/2003
User:
sport
I think JB is correct!The music that was played should be the music that is spread.
Date: 01/04/2005
User:
cousinkix1953
The GRATEFUL DEAD have openly distributed the outtakes from their commercial "Hundred Year Hall" and several Dick's Picks releases. I don't think they care; if you buy an album, download, and patch in the rest of that music on your own CDs for private uses...
Date: 06/18/2006
User:
Greg Yurkovic
Well, I guess the entire argument above is moot now. This show (or most of it) has been released as the second disc of the new Eat A Peach: Deluxe Edition CD set.
Date: 07/13/2006
User:
corivet
Contrary to belief, there was a recording of the final concert at Bill Graham’s Fillmore East, which took place June 27, 1971, with the Allman Brothers, The Beach Boys and others in performance created by the sound technician. There were 20 copies of the album made on the highest quality vinyl. I don’t know how many still exist but I have just made a prosessional CD copy of this recording. It was made from my copy of the record that was played less than 5 times in total including the reproduction. I still have this original record.
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