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Grateful Dead 07/16/1966

Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco, CA
SHNID 89555
Source Summary
flac16; Recording Info: SBD -> Master Reel -> Dat -> Sonic Solutions -> CD; Transfer Info: CD -> EAC -> SHN -> WAV -> FLAC; Transferred and Edited By Charlie Miller. This is a fix of shn id 21063
Entered by Gary Field
Checksums flac-md5, ffp
Disc Counts 1 / 2
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
01/18/2008
01/18/2008
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Archive Identifier gd1966-07-16.sbd.miller.89555.sbeok.flac16 ↗

Other Sources
SHNID 4459 SBD > RTR > PCM > SSSB; via Jay Serafin to gdlive
SHNID 13958 Shntool fix of original Jay Serafin seed;...
SHNID 21063 SBD -> Reel Master (10 Inch Reels @ 15ips...
Grateful Dead - July 16, 1966
Fillmore Auditorium - San Francisco, CA

Recording Info:
SBD -> Master Reel -> Dat -> Sonic Solutions -> CD

Transfer Info:
CD -> EAC -> SHN -> WAV -> FLAC
(2 Discs Audio / 1 Disc FLAC)

Transferred and Edited By Charlie Miller
charliemiller87@earthlink.net
January 16, 2008

Notes:
-- Fixed the flaw in Dancin' In The Streets
-- This is a fix of shnid=21063
-- Thanks to David Gans for the source discs

Set One:
d1t01 - I Know You Rider
d1t02 - Big Boss Man
d1t03 - Standing On The Corner
d1t04 - Beat It On Down The Line
d1t05 - In The Pines
d1t06 - Cardboard Cowboy
d1t07 - Nobody's Fault But Mine
d1t08 - Next Time You See Me
d1t09 - He Was A Friend Of Mine
d1t10 - Cream Puff War

Set Two:
d1t11 - Viola Lee Blues
d1t12 - Don't Ease Me In ->
d1t13 - Pain In My Heart
d1t14 - Minglewood Blues ->
d1t15 - Sittin' On Top Of The World
d2t01 - You Don't Have To Ask
d2t02 - Cold Rain And Snow ->
d2t03 - Good Morning Little Schoolgirl ->
d2t04 - It's All Over Now Baby Blue
d2t05 - Dancin' In The Streets


SHNTOOL OUTPUT:
    length     expanded size   cdr  WAVE  probs   filename
     3:23.67      35966828     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d1t01.wav
     5:13.47      55323788     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d1t02.wav
     4:08.08      43766060     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d1t03.wav
     3:23.03      35816300     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d1t04.wav
     5:46.63      61182620     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d1t05.wav
     2:29.44      26387132     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d1t06.wav
     4:12.24      44509292     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d1t07.wav
     3:33.12      37601468     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d1t08.wav
     5:35.58      59230460     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d1t09.wav
     5:59.50      63445244     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d1t10.wav
     9:44.29     103085852     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d1t11.wav
     2:44.34      29009612     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d1t12.wav
     4:28.53      47399900     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d1t13.wav
     4:09.08      43942460     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d1t14.wav
     3:38.49      38570492     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d1t15.wav
     5:06.42      54077228     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d2t01.wav
     4:59.36      52828316     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d2t02.wav
    10:43.24     113481692     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d2t03.wav
     5:10.33      54761660     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d2t04.wav
     6:30.58      68932460     ---   --    ---    gd66-07-16d2t05.flac
   101:01.67    1069318864 B                      (totals for 20 files)

Comments

Date: 02/02/2008
User: st33ve
As discussed at Deadlists, there's confusion concerning what was played 7/16 and what was played 7/17, and what was Set 1 and what was Set 2.

Last year I downloaded 2 mp3 sets from GDLive that I believe are 13958 (which is Viola Lee Blues thru Baby Blue) and 13959 (which is Big Boss Man thru Next Time You See Me).

89555 has all the tracks in both 13958 and 13959, plus several additional tracks.

I've pulled up and compared Good Morning Little Schoolgirl (13958 vs. 89555) and Big Boss Man (13959 vs. 89555) in Audacity. In each case, when you line up the two, they stay perfectly time-synched for their entire length (although the left & right channels are swapped), so they must have the same source.

But in each case the other source has substantially more high-end than 89555. If you focus on the cymbal, the amount of "missing sound" in 89555 is pretty striking. I suspect NR, but I'm no sound engineer. In any case, if someone could furnish Mr. Miller with lossless versions of 13958 and 13959, I'd think a combination of those with the added tracks from 89555 would make for a nice (easy) upgrade.
Date: 02/02/2008
User: st33ve
Correcting my earlier comment, I now realize that, besides supplying 4 additional tracks, 89555 also adds a lot of between-tracks time that was cut from the GDLive versions, and also has complete (rather than chopped) versions of BIODTL and In the Pines. So I hereby withdraw the word "easy" from the last sentence of my first comment. (But I continue to think a combination that used the other sources as much as possible would be a significant upgrade.)
Date: 02/02/2008
User: st33ve
As a final note (or so I hope), (1) the mp3's I got from GDLive are all dated 10/18/99 (in case that helps nail down their source), and (2) the version of 89555 I'm comparing them to is the vbr mp3's from Internet Archive.
Date: 02/03/2008
I NEVER use NR.
Date: 02/03/2008
User: st33ve
Charlie --

I assumed you weren't the NR source (if it is NR) -- meaning that if NR was applied, it was applied before your source got to you. But I've compared a few more tracks since my previous posts, and in every case the time-synching is absolutely perfect (to the millisecond), so the 1999 GDLive mp3's and your source must have a common ancestor. And given that the GDLive mp3's have considerably more treble (and hiss), and assuming you didn't do anything that cut the high end, that leads me to think there must have been some intervening processing by somebody in between the common ancestor and your source. (I assume it couldn't be just an intervening tape generation or the speeds wouldn't match precisely.)

To further correct my original post, the 2 GDLive mp3 sets I downloaded have the exact same tracks as Serafin's (and dated the same -- i.e., VLB thru Baby Blue dated 7/16 and BBM thru NTYSM dated 7/17), but the intro and stage banter before and after VLB are broken out as separate tracks (plus, as I mentioned in my 2nd post, BIODTL and In the Pines are incomplete), so the GDLive mp3's were apparently from a source not listed at db.etree (rather than from Serafin). Maybe somebody else knows if a lossless version of the "enhanced treble source" is available for further upgrading.

PS: While I've got your ear, thanks for all your contributions.
Date: 02/03/2008
It is also possible that the GDLive source was EQ'd which is why it sounds brighter.
Date: 06/27/2008
Anybody know if the beginning of IKYR is cut? It sure sounds like it.