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Grateful Dead ??/??/1968

Unknown or Various, Unknown, Unknown
SHNID 9426
Source Summary
7 undated '68 fragments circulating together; 5 Vault reels> 4 CDs- see info file for available details; via Music Never Stopped shn project
Entered by dr.unclear
Checksums shn-md5, st5
Disc Counts 0 / 4
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
5/9/02
05/17/2002
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Archive Identifier gd68-xx-xx.sbd.vernon.9426.sbeok.shnf ↗

Other Sources
SHNID 97671 flac16 ; Recording Info: SBD -> Master Reel ->...
SHNID 158612 flac1644 Remastered Disk 4 of Mystery Reels...
Collection of excerpts found on 5 unlabeled 7" reels in the vault dated circa 1968
Thanks to Raoul Duke for disks 1 and 2, Jeff Cook for disks 3 and 4

Part of "The Music Never Stopped" 2002 shn em up project 5/9/2002

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Disk 1 [47:18]
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Excerpt # 1 per The Deadhead's Taping Compendium
Source: SBD>MR>DAT(s)>CDR
Conversion: CDR > EAC(secure) >  mkwact(seekable)

01. [00:17] (fades in)//St. Stephen >
02. [02:20] Jam (St. Stephen ish)
03. [01:46] Cryptical Envelopment Reprise >
04. [04:41] The Other One >
05. [06:05] Cryptical Envelopment >
06. [04:25] New Potato Caboose >
07. [06:21] Thirteens Jam >
08. [03:21] Alligator >
09. [04:25] Drumz >
10. [09:04] Jam (Cautionish) >
11. [04:27] Caution(Do Not Step on Tracks)//


This partial set is a differently tracked version of this corresponding entry in Deadlists

BAND Grateful Dead
VENUE unknown
CITY unknown
STATE unknown
DATE ??/??/68
SET1 St Stephen [#2:40] > Cryptical Envelopment [1:42] > Drums [0:14] > The
Other One [4:28] > Cryptical Envelopment [6:03] > New Potato Caboose [10:46] >
Alligator [3:20] > Drums [6:19] > Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) {11:29#]
SET2
SET3
ENCORE
COMMENTS At 3:56 into the Drums after Alligator, they start singing Alligator vocals and at 4:35 in to it, Jerry joins in with a Caution type solo.  Although this fragment circulates as "Fall 1968", "3/22/68 Detroit", and "May 1968", it is from an unlabeled reel. There is an entry for this set list on p. 164 of Volume 1 of The Deadhead's Taping Compendium.  According to Rob Eaton: "There were 5 unlabeled 7 inch reels found in the Vault many years ago.  Several contained very early versions of Stephen. The tape you describe is one of these unknown reels. The best estimate for a date would be April/May 1968 or spring '68."
RECORDING 45 SBD
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Disk 2 [43:10]
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Excerpt # 2 per The Deadhead's Taping Compendium

Source:  SBD>MR>DAT>CDR
Conversion: CDR > EAC(secure) > Cool Edit (fix drop outs) > shntool (retrack on sectors) > mkwact(seekable)

01. [01:31] Drumz >
02. [13:59] (post-Alligator) Jam

This partial set corresponds to this entry in Deadlists

BAND Grateful Dead
VENUE unknown
CITY unknown
STATE unknown
DATE ??/??/68
SET1 Drums [#1:30]> Jam [13:59] > Caution [1:07#]
SET2
SET3
ENCORE
COMMENTS The date and location of this recording are unknown.  Its hard to say for sure, but it sounds like late 1968 - maybe September or October or thereabouts.  The Drums has that Bol scat "Ya, Ya, Yakita, Yakita" in it.
RECORDING 17 SBD

Excerpt # 3 per The Deadhead's Taping Compendium

Source:  SBD>MR>DAT>CDR
Conversion: CDR > EAC(secure) >  mkwact(seekable)

03. [01:06] (fades in)//Cryptical Envelopment >
04. [02:31] The Other One >
05. [03:30] Cryptical Envelopment >
06. [08:41] New Potato Caboose //
07. [04:05] It Hurts Me Too
08. [03:17] Born Cross Eyed //

This partial set corresponds to this entry in Deadlists

BAND Grateful Dead
VENUE unknown
CITY unknown
STATE unknown
DATE ??/??/68
SET1 Cryptical Envelopment [#1:06] > The Other One [2:31] > Cryptical Envelopment [3:30] > New Potato Caboose [8:41] ; It Hurts Me Too [#4:05] ; Born Cross-Eyed [3:08#]
SET2
SET3
ENCORE
COMMENTS The date and location of this recording are unknown. There is no Drums after the first Cryptical, The Other One has the standard lyrics, but Bobby stumbles with them as on 2-3-68.  This recording is probably very close to that date.
RECORDING 25 SBD

Excerpt # 4 per The Deadhead's Taping Compendium

Source:  SBD>MR>C>DAT>CDR
Conversion: CDR > EAC(secure) >  mkwact(seekable)

09. [04:04] //Dark Star >
10. [00:21] St. Stephen //

This partial set corresponds to this entry in Deadlists

BAND Grateful Dead
VENUE unknown
CITY unknown
STATE unknown
DATE ??/??/68
SET1 Dark Star [#4:05] > St. Stephen [0:06#]
SET2
SET3
ENCORE
COMMENTS The date and location of this recording are unknown.  Its sounds like it's from 1968, but maybe it's early 1969?
RECORDING 5 SBD

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Disk 3 [78:21]
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Excerpt # 5 per The Deadhead's Taping Compendium

Source: SBD>MR>C>DAT>CDR

Conversion: CDR > EAC(secure) >  mkwact(seekable)

SET list
01. [00:39] //Cryptical Envelopment >
02. [05:24] The Other One  >
03. [09:37] Cryptical Envelopment >
04. [15:18] Good Morning Little Schoolgirl;
05. [13:36] //Dark Star >
06. [03:34] St. Stephen >
07. [12:09] The Eleven >
08. [08:06] Death Don't Have No Mercy//;
09. [09:55] Turn On Your Lovelight//

hiss level significantly higher than the other disks in this set and some distortion on bass - looks to have more than 1 cassette generation.  fairly frequent partial channel drop outs from what might be tape decay on some songs

BAND Grateful Dead
VENUE unknown
CITY unknown
STATE unknown
DATE ??/??/68
SET1 Cryptical Envelopment [#0:39] > The Other One  [5:24] > Cryptical
Envelopment [9:37] > Good Morning Little Schoolgirl [14:49] ; Dark Star  
[#13:33] > St. Stephen  [3:34] > The Eleven [12:09] > Death Don't Have No Mercy
[8:%07] ; Turn On Your Lovelight [9:48#]
SET2
SET3
ENCORE
COMMENTS The date and location of this recording are unknown.  It begins with a cut right into the "doesn't seem to matter" line in Cryptical Envelopment.  There is a six second or so drum solo intro to The Other One.  At the "one man gathers what another man spills" break in St. Stephen, Jerry and maybe two others laugh, but there are not really any words.
RECORDING 78 SBD

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Disk 4 [75:43]
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Excerpt # 6 per The Deadhead's Taping Compendium

Source: MR > C > DAT > CD
Conversion: CDR > EAC(secure) > Cool Edit(minor cleanup) > mkwact(seekable)

01. [07:36] //St. Stephen >
02. [01:46] Cryptical Envelopment >
03. [04:42] The Other One  >
04. [04:23] Cryptical Envelopment >
05. [10:18] Turn On You Lovelight//

d1t1 - tape speed variable at the start
d1t2 - volume change ~1:30
d1t5 ~7:40 volume lowered

This partial set corresponds to this entry in Deadlists

BAND Grateful Dead
VENUE unknown
CITY unknown
STATE unknown
DATE ??/??/68
SET1 St. Stephen [#7:33] > Cryptical Envelopment [1:46] > The Other One [4:43]
> Cryptical Envelopment [4:28] > Turn On You Lovelight [10:10#]
SET2
SET3
ENCORE
COMMENTS The date and location of this recording are unknown. There is a 13 second drum solo intro to The Other One.  At the "one man gathers what another man spills" break in St. Stephen, there are no words, just further jamming immediately.
RECORDING 28 SBD


Excerpt # 7 per The Deadhead's Taping Compendium
Source: SBD > MR> C > DAT > CDR

06. [06:23] //Morning Dew;
07. [03:40] //Hurts Me Too;
08. [01:19] "Return the scratcher"
09. [16:06] Dark // Star  
10. [08:20] St. Stephen >
11. [11:04] Turn On Your Lovelight//

d1t6 ~ volume changes occur during first minute

This partial set corresponds to this entry in Deadlists

BAND Grateful Dead
VENUE unknown
CITY unknown
STATE unknown
DATE ??/??/68
SET1 Morning Dew [#6:14] ; Hurts Me Too [#4:49] ; Dark Star [16%:03) St.
Stephen [8:21] > Turn On Your Lovelight [11:04#]
SET2
SET3
ENCORE
COMMENTS The date and location of this recording are unknown.  There is a tape flip in Dark Star.  At the "one man gathers what another man spills" break in St. Stephen it goes right into a short jam and back into the next lyrics with no comments of any kind.
RECORDING 28 SBD

Comments

Date: 05/17/2002
Clearly on disc 1, track three should be labeled "Cryptical Envelopment" while track five should be labeled "Cryptical Envelopment Reprise", not the other way around. =c)
Date: 11/08/2003
User: Uwe
Excerpt #6 is from 08-21-68, to identify via Lovelight.
Date: 12/30/2003
Have any of the other excerpts been identified? I believe it's only a matter of time before these are no longer Mysteries.
Date: 07/17/2004
Is Excerpt 1 the jam filler speculated to be 8/29/68 at the beginning of 8/23 source? Check out the setlists:

http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=52

Disk 1:

Unknown Date, thought to be August 29, 1968, Matrix)

Source unknown (but crispy)

1. St. Stephen (fades in)
2. Cryptical>
3. TOO>
4. Cryptical
5. New Potato Caboose
6. Alligator
7. Caution Jam
Date: 09/05/2004
Then there's this:

Grateful Dead
05-??-68 Unknown

Vault Reel>DAT>CD>EAC>SHN

1. St. Stephen>
2. Cryptical>
3. The Other One>
4. Cryptical>
5. New Potato Caboose
6. Alligator>
7. Caution

Same show?

8/29?

If not, spooky setlist.
Date: 05/17/2007
User: umphrick
who can verify this for me? I have 10-22-68 Avalon ballroom
set1
1. morning dew
2. the other one
3. new potatoe caboose
set2
1. darkstar
2. st.stephen
3. the eleven
4. death don't have no mercy

notes: start of set 2 jerry anounces " what do you want me to say? everybody HAS to dance...or else?.....Please let go of your bodies, everybody!"
Date: 04/26/2012
User: robman
(1) Excerpt #1: the same show that circulates as 05/??/68 (shnid 5427)

(2) Excerpt #2: a brief extract from 2/15/69, which circulates nearly complete as shnid 2175

(3) Excerpt #3: from 2/3/68, which circulates more completely as shnid 97346

(4) Excerpt #4: a brief snippet from 4/17/69, officially released as Download Series Vol. 12

(5) Excerpt #5: 8/21/68, which also circulates as 17355 and 17689

(6) Excerpt #6: does not circulate elsewhere, as far as I know.

(7) Excerpt #7: does not circulate elsewhere, as far as I know. Dark Star is NOT cut: the "cut" is an overlapping fade-in and fade-out, perhaps to accommodate a cassette flip. To rejoin the two halves, the front half of Excerpt #7 should be increased in gain by about 7 dB. There is more tape hiss in the front half (especially with the gain increase) but it still sounds great when reassembled.