Pink Floyd 01/18/1970
Set I
Careful With That Axe Eugene, The Embryo, Main Theme, Biding My Time, Astronomy Domin?, The Violent Sequence, Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun, Untitled, E: A Saucerful Of Secrets
Set II
Set III
Comment
Collectors With This Show
| User (active/rating) | Media / # | Show | Sound | Details | DB Source | User Source |
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| wes meyette | / | View | ||||
| OldNeumanntapr | FLAC / | A- | View | Audience; 'Leaders Of The Underground' (Eat A Peach) | ||
| Notes: | Review: After the arrival of David Gilmour and the departure of Syd Barrett, the Pink Floyd were forced to begin a musical transformation. Barrett was their chief song writer and front man, much of these duties would to Roger Waters and Richard Wright, subsequent singles from this time period shows a lack of direction from earlier songs that topped the British music charts. The band moved away from singles and towards more LP oriented themes, they also were much in demand as a live act, gone was the psychedelic freak outs and the band moved into college circuits where like minded students would intently listen to this new music. 1969 and 1970 were pivotal years for the band, they found that concept based themes could be personally rewarding and quite popular, The Man and The Journey concept concerts were well received. Their work on film soundtracks like Zabriskie Point and More would also provide a sort of testing ground to venture into other areas outside an official record and coupled with such albums as A Saucerful Of Secrets and Ummagumma, made for a very prolific period. Not wanting to stick with concept performances the band were beginning to experiment with their live set and in early 1970 the band would play some of the most adventurous sets of songs, taking existing crowd favorites and expanding with newer music. This was short lived as the band would soon focus on a collection of songs that would form the basis for their sets for the next two years, it was this set of songs and consistent touring where themes and ideas would evolve into some of the greatest music the band would record. There are three very important recordings in circulation, Feb 11 Birmingham (Atomic Heartbeat In The Hall ñ Godfatherecords 786/787), Paris Jan 23 (Household Objects In Paris ñ Godfatherecords GR 897/868, The Man In Paris ñ Sigma 89) and Croydon Jan 18, the subject of this new release. The recording from Croydon is good, it has circulated for years in trading circles, the master tape has never circulated and the best that does are a couple generations from that tape. Apparently the taper would set up a stall at a record fair and sell copies of his recordings on cheap media, so the sound is not as good as it could be. As stated the sound is good, there is tape hiss present as well as some distortion in loud parts and while the instruments and vocals can be heard the recording lacks clarity. It is also sadly incomplete as to conserve tape the taper would pause the machine to save tape. For years the sequence was the subject of much debate with only news paper reviews to give some clues, finally a person who attended the concert wrote down the set lists at that time and confirmed the sequence of songs on this release are correct, only thing missing is the encore of Interstellar Overdrive! The first disc begins with Careful With That Axe, Eugene, for a first song it is clear and well defined, clocking in at about 11 minutes it is a focused and excellent version of the song, not as intense as latter versions but certainly an important song in the bands repertoire. Embyro is still in its infancy, it is similar to the recording from the BBC December 1968, you can hear the band incorporating the more bluesy feel into it, something that would be fully in place less than a month later in Birmingham, Dave plays quite a bit of slide guitar during the song. The middle section features the band playing around with different melodies and themes as if simply seeing what works or is interesting. Main Theme From More is great live, it just kind of bobs along, the middle section features some interesting growls or grunts from Roger and you can hear some almost Embryo type jamming in the middle. What is apparent is how well played the song is giving it was very short lived in the band live set. Biding My Time aka Afternoon was part of the suite known as The Man from 1969's concept concerts and is always an interesting song live. It sounds as if it could be played anywhere from London to New Orleans, Richard Wright would play trombone giving a jazzy feel but soon afterwards Gilmour plays a wonderful blues inspired solo as the song starts to really cook. More than likely A Saucerful Of Secrets is the final song from the first set, clocking in at 17 minutes it is a typically wonderful and mysterious version, the Celestial Voices ending seems to be too much for the recording device as it gets a bit distorted yet adds to the corrosive nature of the song. The second disc and set begins with The Violent Sequence, it starts with a sort of Heartbeat Pigmeat meets Sysyphus which morphs into a sort of avant garde jazz variation of the percussive beat of the song before moving into the Richard Wright piano which would become Us And Them two years later. This is a very adventurous and at times meandering piece of music, given the rarity of the piece and the fact that the band would ultimately reject it for the stage make for a unique listening experience. A nice long Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun and Astronomy Domine follows, both typical for the era and its obvious that both are audience favorites with the former really starting to reach for the cosmos, gentle yet deliberate. The last thing that makes this tape absolutely essential for Floyd enthusiasts is the last song, the first known recording of what would later be titled as Atom Heart Mother. It is believed that the previous night's concert in Hull, England was its live debut, yet there is no recording from that performance. The framework of the song is here, it lacks a more focused structure and lacks some of the dynamics that would continue to evolve over the next couple months, one of the more interesting things is Nick Mason's drum solo section. The recording cuts at its conclusion and the last three minutes is a repeat from the beginning section done as part of a Yeeshkull project restoration of this concert, done so well if you did not know it was there, you never would've known. The packaging is typical Eat A Peach, mini LP sleeve with a collage of live shots from the period. The inner CD sleeves have live and posed shots, the one of Waters seated at a table with a couple of cats glancing out a window in nice, and have the song titles for each cd listed. There is an insert with liner notes from The Lazy Goalkeeper that is well written, simply another well sought out release. As with their The Man And The Journey set, it is obvious Eat A Peach is committed to releasing well thought out and relevant Pink Floyd material, material that deserves such lovingly assembled sets such as this. Oh yeah, the title of this comes from Roy Shipston's review of this concert in Disc magazine, 'Pink Floyd Leaders of the underground'. | |||||
| John H | flac / 2 | a- | a- | View | audience | |
| Joe | FLAC / 0 | View | ||||
| Slick2007 | FLAC / 2 | A- | View | |||
| Rick Martin | SHN / 2 | A- | View | audience / RtR[1]>DAT[?]>CDR[?] >EAC>WAV>archived in shn [really... | ||
| Notes: | Complete | |||||
| Tulum | FLAC / 10 | View | Biding My Time in Croydon silvercd | |||
| Notes: | The Amazing Pudding and The Embryo are cut at the end. Disc 2, track 5: City Hall, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England, 22 December 1970. | |||||
| michael kass | / 2 | View | ||||
| Drifty | CDr / 2 | B | View | Audience | ||
| Notes: | Bootleg "Heart Beat, Pig Meat" | |||||
| Marty | cdr / 2 | View | RTR(1)>DAT(?)>CDR>EAC>WAV>SHN | |||
| Notes: | flac | |||||
| John | CDR/FLAC / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | AUDIENCE SECOND GENERATION>DAT(CLONE-2)>CDR>EAC>FLAC | |||||
| Damian | CD / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | Pink Floyd Date: 18 January, 1970 Location: Fairfield Hall, Croydon, Surrey, England Source: RTR(1)>DAT(?)>CDR>EAC>WAV>SHN Rating: VG-/VG Disc One: 1. Careful With That Axe, Eugene 11:19 2. The Embryo 11:51 3. Main Theme From "More" 14:16 4. Biding My Time 6:10 5. Astronomy Domine 9:31 Total: 53:07 Disc Two: 1. The Violent Sequence 16:05 2. Set The Controls for The Heart Of The Sun 14:55 3. Amazing Pudding (Atom Heart Mother) 25:12 Encore: 4. A Saucerful Of Secrets 17:39 Total: 73:51 Comments: I find this to be one of the more underestimated gigs. Some have said the performance is sloppy, but this is an incredible performance and setlist. An interesting thing about this recording is the running order, which seems to be the correct one according to "In The Flesh." Unfortunately, 'Atom Heart Mother', the earliest know audience recording of this song, still runs a little short. As for sound quality, it is at best average... VG- to VG seems like a good rating. It's very listenable, cymbals come through nicely. It's quite comparable to Biding My Time In Croydon, but this doesn't have as much hiss and is in the right running order. The tracks do not include tuneups, since there is evidence that the taper stopped his recorder between songs. The recording levels are occasionally inconsistent as well. Still, it's very nice to have this show in the proper order. | |||||
| jeff korona | cdr / 1 | View | ||||
| Yoshi | MP3 / 1 | View | ||||
| Jeff Mitchell | / 0 | View | ||||
| Jon Pavuk | SHN / 1 | A | B | View | RTR(1)>DAT(?)>CDR>EAC>WAV>SHN | |
| Jon Pavuk | FLAC / 1 | A+ | A- | View | Audience>2nd generation tape>DAT [48khz]>SHN(48khz)>WAV>CDWav>FLAC(level 8) via... | |
| Notes: | 48khz | |||||
| Jon Pavuk | FLAC / 1 | A+ | B+ | View | Rtr master > analogue [5] (TDK SA90 cassette) > Nakamichi 581 > Edirol UA-1EX >... | |
| Notes: | This includes the 24/96 Raw and remastered show, as well as the 16/44. | |||||
| gramfan | cdr / 2 | View | ||||
| Steve Blanchard | SHN / 2 | View | AUD recording - exact linage unknown; from bootleg CD | |||
| travis | cdr / 2 | a | View | |||
| barry bryson | CD / 2 | View | M.B. BIDING MY TIME IN CROYDEN | |||
| Harry P | CDR / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | From "Biding My Time In Croydon" boot | |||||
| Andrew Murawa | cd / 2 | View | RTR(1)>DAT(?)>CDR>EAC>WAV>SHN | |||
| kippenhok | cd / 2 | B- | View | |||
| Notes: | Biding my Time in Croydon | |||||
| jezzie | CD / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | - | |||||
| Kufat | SHN / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | No source info yet. | |||||
| jeremy | shn / 2 | View | no source | |||
| Notes: | Biding My Time In Croydon | |||||
| Joe Hardwick | SHN / 0 | View | ||||
| Staunchy | SHN / 0 | View | ||||
| Sunshineannie | SHN / 2 | View | ||||
| Steve K | FLAC / 2 | B | View | Aud | ||
| Chris M. | CDR / 2 | View | 2 different sources | |||
| Nick | CDR / 2 | View | ||||
| Jeff Hagen | Flac / 1 | View | Unknown | |||
| Brad Foster | FLAC / 1 | View | AUD>Cass[x]>DAT>WAV>SHN | |||
| Marinus van der Plaats | / 0 | View | ||||
| Zionpower | / 0 | View | ||||
| shakedown80 | / 0 | View | ||||
| Notes: | AUDIENCE SECOND GENERATION>DAT(CLONE-2)>CDR>EAC>FLAC | |||||
| Ray D | cdr / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | Heart Beat Pig Meat (JS+tBD This is an improvement over the Biding My Time In Croydon release. Contains the live performance debut of The Embryo (BBC debut performance 68-Dec-2) and the supposedly 2nd performance (and earliest known recorded performance) of AHM. Also has a rare performance of the Violent Sequence, Main Theme (earliest known recorded performance of both), and Biding My Time. This is a great, historic performance. | |||||
| Nico | CDR / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | "Biding My Time in Croydon" | |||||
| Matt D. | CDR / 2 | B | View | RoIO: Biding My Time In Crydon | ||
| Notes: | Astronomy Domine The Violent Sequence Set the Controls FTHOTS Atom Heart Mother (no orch.) Careful WTAE DISC 2 ----------- Embryo Main Theme from More Biding My Time Saucerful Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast | |||||
| Brien | shn / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | Biding my Time | |||||
| Elephante | / 0 | View | ||||
| Bill Bruno | shn / 2 | aud | View | |||
| Notes: | "Biding my Time in Croydon" low (NR used) | |||||
| Randy Holt | / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | Biding My Time In Crydon | |||||
| TTDaddy | FLAC / 1 | View | AUD | |||
| Notes: | converts to 2 audio discs | |||||
| Doug | mp3 / 0 | B+ | View | |||
| Eric | CD / 2 | A | A | View | Master Audience DAT | |
| Dave Lemen | / 0 | View | ||||
| Notes: | DVD 68 | |||||
| Joe the Troll | / 0 | View | ||||
| Charlie Kidder | SHN / 2 | View | AUD | |||
| Notes: | Biding My Time in Croydon (Hip Cat) | |||||
| Charlie Kidder | SHN / 2 | View | AUD | |||
| Notes: | 1st generation | |||||
| spencer | / 2 | View | ||||
| Josh Cooperman | CDR / 2 | A | View | |||
| cosmiczoso | / 0 | View | ||||
| Notes: | SBD | |||||
| pink floyd fan | / 0 | View | ||||
| Chris | CDR / 2 | View | ||||
| unoxz | / 0 | View | ||||
| Notes: | "Biding my Time in Croydon" | |||||
| Gabe | SHN CD / 1 | View | ||||
| Timmy | aud / 2 | View | ||||
| Timmy Saville | aud / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | BIDING MY TIME IN CROYDON SHN | |||||
| RM's Giant Live Music Archive | FLAC / 0 | View | 2nd generation source (AA014) | |||
| Notes: | AUDIENCE SECOND GENERATION > DAT (CLONE-2) > CDR > EAC > FLAC | |||||
| RM's Giant Live Music Archive | SHN / 0 | View | 1st generation source (BB117) | |||
| Notes: | Source: RTR(1) > DAT(?)> CDR > EAC > WAV > SHN | |||||
| RM's Giant Live Music Archive | FLAC / 0 | View | "Heartbeat, Pigmeat" (NN042) | |||
| Notes: | CD Bootleg: Heartbeat, Pigmeat Label: Quality: VG CD Bootleg "Heartbeat, Pigmeat" > EAC > FLAC level 5 | |||||
| King of the Gypsies | / | View | ||||
| khanti | SHN / 2 | View | ||||
| AAA Audio | flac / 1 | View | ||||
| jobber | flac / 1 | View | ||||
| Notes: | Biding my time in Cordon | |||||
| ROY HAMILTON | CDR / 2 | AUD | View | AUD | ||
| Notes: | HEART BEAT PIG MEAT | |||||
| Curtis B | / 2 | View | ||||
| Pete Raber | SHN / 2 | View | liberated from "Biding My Time In Croydon" boot disc | |||
| Charissa | cdr / 2 | View | ||||
| Dan Clayton | shn / 2 | View | liberated bootleg | |||
| Adam Aronson | 2CD / 0 | View | SBD | |||
| Notes: | Also includes "Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast" 12/22/70 | |||||
| John Peters | FLAC / 1 | View | AUD: Rtr master > analogue [5] (TDK SA90 cassettes) > *Technics RS-B965-M > Focusrite Saffire Pro... | |||
| thegreatdivide6 | flac / 0 | View | ||||
| Notes: | audience | |||||
| Boedi-taper | CDR / 2 | A | B+ | View | Audience Recording | |
| Carter | CDR / 2 | View | ||||
| Dr. Faustus | CDR-audio / 2 | View | Traded from cdjustpanic. | |||
| Notes: | traded from db.etree/cdjustpanic The sound quality from this relic show is very poor. F | |||||
| michael rosenberg | flac / 1 | A | B | View | Leaders Of The Underground Eat A Peach / EAT 119-120 | |
| Preston Klingler | SHN / 2 | C | View | Silver Biding My Time In Croydon(Revisited) | ||
| Notes: | Not a good show at all. Basically just sounds like a bunch of noise because of the distance and how badly the sound is distorted and muffled. Crowd noise is always cut, and at times a lot of the endings to the songs. Best for people who really love floyd and absolutly need this for their collection. | |||||
| Jerry Morgan | cd / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | First Generation | |||||
| MrChips | / 2 | B+ | View | |||
| Notes: | 'Biding My Time in Croydon' | |||||
| Hanf | Shn / 0 | View | ||||
| Notes: | RTR(1)>DAT(?)>CDR>EAC>WAV>SHN | |||||
| phil | CD-R / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | filler:Alans Pschyedelic Breakfast(12-22-70) | |||||
| SpiralLightofVenus | FLAC / 0 | AUD | View | |||
| Notes: | AUD TB19 | |||||
| LossLess Legs | CDR / 2 | View | Audience>2nd generation tape | |||
| Notes: | 07/18/2008 - kuvap | |||||
| David Backus | CDR-SHN / 2 | View | AUD | |||
| Malibu Jesus | 2 cd / 2 | B+ | View | AUD | ||
| Notes: | "Biding My Time in Croydon"; the music is a bit distant and muffled at times, there's some noticable cuts along the way and the vocals are buried as well; this show is in definite need of an upgrade | |||||
| bluibootleg | FLAC / 2 | View | Audience | |||
| Mike Ezell | .flac / 2 | View | ||||
| Smoke Signal | CDR / 2 | B | View | Aud. | ||
| Drumpelstiltzken | CDR / 2 | A | B | View | ||
| Notes: | aud | |||||
| harold smith | CDR / 2 | B+ | B | View | ||
| Notes: | W/Heart Beat,Pig Meat>the Violent Sequence; Main Theme & Biding My Time | |||||
| caprice | CDR / 2 | View | AUD | |||
| Norton Zenger | / 0 | View | ||||
| Robert Rigos | SHN / 1 | B- | View | |||
| Notes: | Not complete show. No source info in SHN text. | |||||
| Richard | CDR / 2 | View | ||||
| Smoke Signal | CD / 2 | View | ||||
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