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Pink Floyd 11/17/1972

SHOWID 19106

Set I

Dark Side Of The Moon [Speak To Me-> Breathe-> Travel-> Time-> Breathe (reprise)-> The Great Gig In The Sky-> Money-> Us and Them-> Any Colour You Like-> Brain Damage-> Eclipse]

Set II

One Of These Days, Careful With That Axe Eugene, Echoes, E: Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun

Set III

 

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Collectors With This Show

User (active/rating) Media / # Show Sound Details DB Source User Source
John H (5/5) flac / 2 A A View   audience
Notes: Lineage: - Master Recording (1972-11-17): Grundig TK147 reel to reel - Master to reel to reel backup (c. 1976): Grundig TK147 > Telefunken Magnetophon 300 - 1st Gen reel to reel (2011-08-05): Pioneer RT707 > Tascam HD-P2 (WAV 24bit/96kHz) - ProTools 9 HD mastering (2012) Files: MASTER: 24bit/96kHz stereo* FLAC SC: 24bit/96kHz stereo* FLAC (speed corrected only
wes meyette (5/0) / View  
OldNeumanntapr (5/5) FLAC / 0 A View   Telefunken Magnetophon 300 >Grundig TK 147 Reel
Notes: ** Beechwoods' Notes Marbal recorded both of the Floyd's performances at the Festhalle in Frankfurt in November 1972, on the 16th and 17th. The first show was recorded to cassette, on a mono Philips EL3302 portable recorder. On the 16th Marbal spotted that the venue had conveniently sited mains power upstairs besides the seats, so he decided to try and get his Grundig TK147 reel to reel recorder into the venue for the second night. This transfer is named in honour of that machine, and the nerve it took to get it into the venue! It's easy to forget how big decent machines were back in the early 70's, and the difficulty in getting them into a venue. As Marbal commented on the day before 'When we ran inside the hall we kicked the security out of the way...' - a 'take no prisoners' approach to stealth recording! It's worth saying a little about existing copies that circulate. All Marbal's cassette copies are from his 1st Gen backup reel. 'I did that during my student time to secure the quality of the 1st reel which was in my parents house together with the machine while I had 2 cass-decks in my little flat'. Circulating cassette copies will be 2nd gen or higher. The mastertape is sadly damaged and lost. This particular transfer is, I hope you will agree, an extraordinary improvement on circulating copies. ** Jimfisheye's Notes This is a mono recording of a concert presented in quadraphonic surround sound. The balance captured on tape is fairly complete considering but certain elements are far away sounding due to the mono perspective. The recording suffers from incorrect transfer speeds, high frequency attenuation from tape degradation and generation loss, and harmonic distortion from a microphone/deck just not up to the task of capturing full spectrum live loud dynamic sound. The loudest sections of music suffer further high and high mid frequency attenuation and compression. The intent for this master is to present the concert as closely as possible to how it originally sounded with a reasonable amount of restoration work. Listening to a raw audience recording of an event made on amateur and/or portable equipment can turn into more of a study of the challenges and imperfections than the event itself. Tapes running at wrong speeds, volume levels altered by equipment response and operator controls, and frequency balance altered by equipment limitations can be very large distractions. Perfectly complete restoration is not always the goal (or even always possible). There will almost certainly be some artifact left untouched or a technique employed to be scrutinized. The goals here were to restore the correct speed, offset the high frequency attenuation, and correct record level fluctuations caused by level adjustments during the recording and other equipment anomalies. The 1st half of TDSOTM is 46c flat but the rest of the show is 31c flat. This was corrected with Serato Pitch n Time. The level of harmonic distortion makes it difficult to make any adjustments without further degrading the recording. I was able to restore some balance by boosting the high frequencies. The high mids were boosted and the highs further boosted during the more compromised loud sections. All eq boosts were done by first isolating the frequency range to boost in a copy of the track and then mixing this together with the original track. This clinical approach avoids the coloration and alterations inherent in eq boosts. I used iZotope2 noise removal on the track adding back in high frequency content in order to not increase the hiss in the recording. It was not possible to remove hiss from the overall recording without losing content. I corrected the record level fluctuations and removed a number of noises from the mic and equipment being physically jostled. Speed correction and certain isolated noise/artifact removal is fairly black and white. Acoustics of the venue, performance of the sound engineer, and the nature of the quadraphonic surround sound mixing present a lot of variables. Add portable recording equipment to this (and these levels moving around especially at the beginning of the show) and frequency balance and level correction become more subjective. Although this recording is far from audiophile or even portable consumer standards, the fragile nature of it's remains actually require a full quality digital format to preserve without incurring further loss. With this in mind and to preserve raw data for future technology, the raw digital transfer and a speed corrected only version are included with the mastered version of this recording. Additionally, a reduced (CD quality) version of the master for portable players and small systems is included. Sample rate conversion with Protools highest quality and word length reduction with Waves IDR. This show gets off to a rough start as well. Rick's keys are flat at first. (Power issues affecting Ricks tuning?) They seem painfully aware they are out of tune and are just trying to get thru it. You can hear it in their playing. Sounds like everything's under control again by the end of Time.
Joe (5/5) FLAC / 0 View  
Slick2007 (5/5) FLAC / 2 A View  
Jack Warner (5/5) FLAC / 0 View   MAR>R>FLAC
Brandon Moeller (5/5) CD-R / 2 View  
Notes: downloaded from tradersden.org bit torrent.
Jeff Mitchell (5/0) / 0 View  
catherine (5/5) shn 1 / 0 View  
Jon Pavuk (5/4.3) SHN / 1 A A- View   Audience>The Last Day In Germany (DFA)
Notes: This comes from the 1st gen tape... and quite franctly, I thought it was going to be another low gen tape butchered by dehissing and noise reduction. In fact, noise reduction was used but it's not as "dull" as the previous releases.
stephen (5/4.8) SHN / 1 AUD View  
crozier (5/4.9) phuji / 2 View  
Notes: Silvers > EAC (secure mode, offset corrected, test & copy) > WAV > FLACFrontend (tested and verified) > FLAC level 7
barry bryson (5/4.3) CD / 2 View   MB
Joe (5/5) CD-R / 2 View   Aud.
Notes: Last Day In Germany
RamblinRose (5/5) CD-R / 2 View   AUD
Notes: Excellent AUD tape. "Last Day In Germany"
ronnie (5/0) cd-r / 2 View  
Notes: Frankfurt Master
EricS (5/0) CDR / 2 View  
Daniel (4/0) / View   Source: Audience Recording (low gen) from the collection of Gary Cameron Lineage: wav > iZotope...
Notes: Comments: - There have been two sources in circulation for this show for many years but now comes a third source which is complete, unlike the others. - DSOTM was still relatively young and I have named the tracks as they were called at the time. It was played as one continuous piece during concert performances so I have decided to keep it that way here. - "Speak To Me" is a recorded tape Notes: - Pitch correction. - DC offset removed. - Azimuth adjusted. - "Speak To Me" sounded somewhat distorted so steps have been taken to reduce that. - Some background noise has been eliminated. - The tape was paused between "One Of The Days" and "Careful With That Axe, Eugene" A crossfade has been put in. Thanks to Seth Kaplan for the pitch correction. Many thanks to Gary for providing this very good source. edited and mastered SIRMick June 2025 Date fixed, indexed and info edited by Skinny12
Chris M. (4/4) CDR / 2 View  
Notes: DSOTM
Michael Shilling (4/5) CDR / 2 A- View  
Notes: "One Of Germany Night", Highland Remasters Serieas HL628/629
Brad Foster (4/4.9) FLAC / 1 View   AUD>?>DAT (low gen.)>CD>EAC>FLAC
Marinus van der Plaats (4/5) / 0 View  
Mike (4/5) cdr / 2 A- A- View  
Notes: "One Of Those Days"
mamou1 (4/0) CDR / 2 View  
Matt D. (4/0) CDR / 2 A- View   RoIO:Last Day In Germany; aud
Tom Wells (4/0) cdr / 2 A- View   aud
Notes: Set I Dark Side of the Moon: Speak To Me(3:23)>; Breathe(2:51)>; Travel(6:22)>; Time(7:04)>; Breathe(reprise)> The Great Gig in the Sky(4:34)>; Money(6:01)>; Us and Them(7:55)>; Any Colour You Like(5:40)>; Brain Damage(3:52)>; Eclipse(1:40[1:54] Set II One Of These Days(8:24); [1:25]Careful With That Axe Eugene(11:27)[1:04]; Echoes(24:36) Encore Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun(12:49)
Brien (4/5) cdr / 2 View  
Notes: "Last Day In Germany"
Tommy (4/0) CD / 2 A A View  
Bill Bruno (4/4.6) shn / 2 aud View  
Notes: "Last Day In Germany"
TTDaddy (3/5) FLAC / 1 View   AUD
Notes: New High Definition transfer from Marbal's own 1st Generation Backup Reel - Transfer and Artwork production by Beechwoods - Mastering by Jimfisheye. ** This is the CD (portable master): 16bit/44.1kHz stereo* FLAC (24/96 master > 24/44.1 > 16/44.1) Lineage: - Master Recording (1972-11-17): Grundig TK147 reel to reel - Master to reel to reel backup (c. 1976): Grundig TK147 > Telefunken Magnetophon 300 - 1st Gen reel to reel (2011-08-05): Pioneer RT707 > Tascam HD-P2 (WAV 24bit/96kHz) - ProTools 9 HD mastering (2012) Converts to 2 audio discs (TRT 1:50:16)
Mike Pageau (3/0) AUD 17 / 2 View  
Dave Lemen (3/0) audio / 2 View  
Notes: DVD 68
weedwacker (3/0) .shn / 0 A View   aud
Notes: Silvers>eac>wav>shn One Of Germany Night, Highland HL628/629
CHISOX75 (3/4.8) CD / 2 View  
Joe the Troll (3/0) / 0 View  
john muncan (3/5) CDR / 1 A- A- View   110m...EX-...au-1st gen/DFA037
Notes: au-1st gen/DFA037 [#14]
Josh Cooperman (3/3.8) CDR / 2 A View  
cosmiczoso (3/0) / 0 View  
Notes: AUD
unoxz (3/0) / 0 View  
Notes: The Last Day In Germany (DFA-037)
RM's Giant Live Music Archive (2/5) FLAC / 0 View   Marbal's source, 48kHz version (CC293)
Notes: original source/lineage: audience / Grunding Reel to Reel > Reel[M] > cass[3] >DAT[1]@48khz > wav > shn@48khz new source/lineage: audience / Grunding Reel to Reel > Reel[M] > cass[3] >DAT[1]@48khz > wav > shn@48khz > wav > Adobe Audition 1.5 > TLH > flac@48khz Taper: Marbal
RM's Giant Live Music Archive (2/5) FLAC / 0 View   One Of Those Days (A039)
Notes: liberated Godfatherecords bootleg; Original Silver Discs > EAC > Flac (level 7)
RM's Giant Live Music Archive (2/5) FLAC / 0 View   March Of The Dambusters (MM070)
Notes: Liberated Sirene bootleg.
RM's Giant Live Music Archive (2/5) FLAC / 0 View   Marbal's source, 24-bit/96kHz version (CC305)
Notes: New High Definition transfer from Marbal's own 1st Generation Backup Reel. Transfer and Artwork production by Beechwoods. Mastering by Jimfisheye. Lineage: - Master Recording (1972-11-17): Grundig TK147 reel to reel - Master to reel to reel backup (c. 1976): Grundig TK147 > Telefunken Magnetophon 300 - 1st Gen reel to reel (2011-08-05): Pioneer RT707 > Tascam HD-P2 (WAV 24bit/96kHz) - ProTools 9 HD mastering (2012) Files: MASTER: 24bit/96kHz stereo* FLAC SC: 24bit/96kHz stereo* FLAC (speed corrected only - no other processing) RAW: 24bit/96kHz mono FLAC (no processing) CD (portable master): 16bit/44.1kHz stereo* FLAC (24/96 master > 24/44.1 > 16/44.1) * The mono program is presented as dual mono in the stereo format. This is to avoid it playing only through the center channel of a 5.1 home theater system or a single channel of a stereo system. This does not increase the file size with FLAC compression.
RM's Giant Live Music Archive (2/5) FLAC / 0 View   Last Day In Germany (CC305)
Notes: Sound Quality EX/EX- dat(low)>eac>flac Complete show from 1st gen (or master?) source. Has speed correction--the original source was slow. No noise reduction was used and only very minor EQ.
King of the Gypsies (2/5) / View  
OBIE (2/5) FLAC / 2 View  
Supratik Chaudhuri (2/0) / 0 View  
Scott J (2/0) / 2 View  
AAA Audio (2/4.7) shn / 1 View  
jobber (2/0) cdr&Shn / 2 View  
Notes: Last Day in Germany
Dean Thole (2/0) SHN / 1 View  
Notes: "Frankfurt Stop Over 1972"
ROY HAMILTON (2/4.9) CDR / 2 AUD View   AUD
Notes: ONE OF THOSE DAYS GOD FATHER RECORDS G.R. 50/51
Erin (2/5) SHN / 1 View  
Notes: Last Day in Germany
Josh (2/0) CDR / 2 View  
Chris Myers (2/5) shn / 1 View  
John Peters (1/0) FLAC / 1 View   AUD: ? > DAT(low) > eac > flac
Notes: "The Last Day in Germany"
Jerry Morgan (1/5) cd / 2 View  
Notes: Frankfurt Stop Over 1972
Stuart Ferguson (1/4.7) CDR / 2 View   Audience
Notes: DVD 582; lineage: 1st gen>DAT[2]
MrChips (1/0) / 2 B+ View  
Notes: 'Last Day in Germany' & master reel>>DAT>>CD>>wav>>flac (mono).
Hanf (1/5) Flac / 0 View  
Notes: "The Last Day In Germany"
Brian C (1/4.7) CDR / 2 A TBA View  
Notes: "Last Day In Germany"
wharfratpat (1/4) SHN / 2 View   AUD
LossLess Legs (1/0) CDR / 2 View   Complete show from 1st gen (or master?) source
Notes: 12/07/2008 - Wharfratpat
tom (1/0) / 0 View  
bluibootleg (1/0) FLAC / 2 View   Audience
tomthumb423 (1/0) / 1 View  
ezwind (1/5) CDR / 2 View  
Notes: WOW!! Excellent Show. Disc 2 is great.
kervonus (1/0) 2 CDR / 0 View  
Joe Zielinski (1/5) CDR / 2 View   Last Day in Germany
Notes: Last Day in Germany, SHN available
Zaza (1/0) / 2 View  
Notes: Last Day in Germany
Joel Tenney (1/5) shn / 1 View  
Notes: Quality ------- Very good audience recording Conversion ---------- Original silver CDs -> EAC (V0.95 prebeta 3) -> wav -> mkw (V0.97 beta 1) -> shn Note ---- This is a nice recording from the European tour they did at the end of 1972 (although the setlist contains no surprises).
Jason (1/4.9) shn / 2 View   Last Day In Germany
Brian (0/0) / 0 View   phillips.marbal.shn
Alex Wolf (0/0) / 0 View  
Keith Geraghty (0/5) shn / 2 View  
kevin metzger (0/0) cd-r / 2 View  
Will C. (0/0) Flac / 2 View  
Notes: Pink Floyd CD 1 : Frankfurt, Festhalle 17.11.1972 - Part 1 (72:50) The Dark Side Of The Moon (49:44) One Of These Days (11:20) Careful With That Axe, Eugene (11:46) CD 2 : Frankfurt, Festhalle 17.11.1972 - Part 2 (39:00) Echoes (25:25) Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun (13:35) lineage: master reel>>DAT>>CD>>wav>>flac Quality : 8 (scale 1-10), mono This is from my master tape, recorded with a Grundig reel to reel. Enjoy marbal F: 10-11-69
ccrocker (0/3) / 0 View  
Tim Blake (0/5) SHN / 2 View  
Notes: The Last Day In Germany. 698MB
Mike (0/5) SHN / 2 View   1st gen tape > The Last Day In Germany (DFA) > SHN
kingbee (0/4.9) / 2 B+ View  
Notes: #338, 339
The Swingin'Pig (0/0) lossless / 1 View  
kimbro (0/0) / 2 A View   AUD
Notes: "Last Day In Germany"
Cristian (0/0) MP3 / 2 A+ A+ View   audience recording
Notes: Last Day In Germany
r1ch (0/0) shn / 2 A B+ View   AUD
Notes: this version of One Of These Days is out of this world. rockin!!!
john curvey (0/0) CDR / 2 View   Liberated Bootleg Flux and Reflux Music FARM20509/10
Pink Floyd Maintence Account (0/0) / 0 View  
Joe Freedman (0/5) SHN / 1 View  
Notes: Last Day in Germany