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Grateful Dead 11/01/1968

SHOWID 346

Set I

Unknown

Set II

Dark Star >
Cryptical Envelopment >
The Other One >
Cryptical Envelopment >
New Potato Caboose
Alligator >
Drums >
Alligator >
Caution (Don't Step On The Tracks)
And We Bid You Good Night

Set III

 

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Friends & Gunge opened.
Flyer for the show - https://www.dead.net/fanphotos/flier-ad-poster-grateful-dead-nov-1-1968
Announcer says "this is the Dead's final set of the evening", and then Dark Star begins.

Jerry Garcia - Guitar
Bob Weir - Guitar
Ron "Pigpen" McKernan - Harmonica, Hammond B3 Organ
Phil Lesh - Bass
Bill Kreutzmann - Drums
Mickey Hart - Drums

Collectors With This Show

User (active/rating) Media / # Show Sound Details DB Source User Source
Rick Martin (5/5) Flac / 1 A View 150968 Recording Info: SBD > (8-track) Master Reel (10in 15ips) > DAT (Panasonic SV-3700) > DAT...
Notes: Partial
OldNeumanntapr (5/5) FLAC / 0 A View 131661 Soundboard Reel
Notes: This is a restoration/rework using shnid 18100 (Cotsman) and 09580 (Axelrod). shnID 18100 provides all the tracks except the majority of track 10 which is from 09580 and was not on 18100. The Original Notes from 18100: Caveat: --From 0:36 in New Potato through the Alligator reprise, the quality drops off severely due to extremely low recording levels. Edits were made to raise the volume and reduce the hiss levels, which dominated the barely audible music. This portion was taken from the J. Powell/J. Barnes SHN seed and patched into a different SBD>MR>C>D>CD source ---a source that has somewhat more noticeable hiss, though there are no significant raspy distortions that can be noticed on the MSR>R>D>CD source. --splice in New Potato at 0:36 (where the quality severely drops) --most of New Potato is missing --Alligator cuts in with a minute or two missing --there are probably a number of minutes missing after the Alligator reprise. Part of The Music Never Stopped Project 2003 Thanks to David Litfin, Jim Powell, and J. Barnes edits/encoding by JCotsman ------------------------------------------------------------- Notes from 09580: Part of The Music Never Stopped Project 2002 shn em up initiative 5/22/02 Thanks to Raoul Duke and Mike Axelrod for the disks! ------------------------------------------------------------- Droncit notes: I used Diamond Cut Forensics versions 8.5 and Alpha 9 for the editing. Thanks to original seeders. 1. For the high quality portion, I primarily relied on a spectral difference filter and sometimes used very light noise reduction. 2. For the "messy" portion, I used the spectral difference, band pass, notch and noise reduction filters. 3. I used 68-03-30 (ShnID 108994)for the sound profile for all the songs. 4. This set of music is listed as set 2, but it is introduced as the "last set" which may imply more than one prior set. 5. The first 2:33 or so of Dark Star is mono in the shnid 18100. In 09580 that portion of the right track is very noisy. I ran a very aggressive noise filter on it,and found it was in mono, so apparently there was a problem with the soundboard and it pops into stereo at 2:33. So I kept the 18100 version, but raised gain at the cutpoint and added some of the left channel back into the right for a couple of seconds to make a smoother transition. It's still very noticeable, but maybe not as jarring. It is hissy for the first minute or so, less so after. 6. SHnID 18100 had the drums intro to The Other One as a separate track. I combined them into one track. 7. ShnID 18100 had New Potato Caboose as one track (combining decent quality and messy sections). I split them into two track to make it easier to skip if you desire (just skip tracks 6-9). 8. Different sources and/or different paths provided different levels of hiss and different levels of quality. I tried to give them all the same overall sound. 9. There is print-through throughout the set, as well as an annoying motor noise at parts, and a motor clunk evident in certain spots (mostly the 14 minute "messy" portion), although it is most noticeable on the opening notes of Dark Star and on the pauses in And We Bid You Good Night. I corrected it in those two spots, but there is still a bit of a "smeary" quality to the music at other spots in the tape because of the generations and the print-through. 10. And We Bid You Good Night is in mono in this version. In 18100, it is stereo, but there is nothing but noise and stage echo in the right channel, so I used the left channel (with all the vocals and the cymbal). I increased the gain, used the spectral difference filter, and used a light noise reduction. There is still a little stage feedback in this version, but it's not too bad to my ears. 11. The songs are listed as one long uninterrupted set, but there are a number of cuts in the material, so it's difficult to tell for certain. 12. The Caution portion that comes from 09580 is tracked with the section from 18100. They sound similar, but the 09580 has some clicky sections that I couldnot eliminate. I did minimize them through a median filter and an impulse noise filter, but they're still evident. 12. The 14-minute extremely low quality material was a challenge. I left it in stereo and tried to get rid of some of the hiss and the annoying tape recorder motor noise, but the noise is at the same frequency as the music and vocals, so there was little I could do. I think it now sounds about as good as the worst cassettes that were being traded in the early 70s. We listened to them then; you can listen now if you want. If you do listen, there is some interesting vocal and nice guitar work. 13. Thanks to BCE for providing the playground.
Joe (5/5) SHN / 0 View 20008
Michael D. (5/0) FLAC / View 20008
michael kass (5/5) / 1 View  
CJ (5/4.7) SHN / 1 View  
Charles Bandrofcheck (5/5) SHN / 2 View 20008 MSR > R > D > CD > EAC (secure) > SHN.
Notes: See my other show notes for info on trading for this show.
Charles Bandrofcheck (5/5) FLAC / 1 View 9580 Source:SBD>MSR>C>DAT>CDR Conversion: CDR > EAC(secure) > CDWav(retracking) > mkwact(seekable)...
Charles Bandrofcheck (5/5) 1 / 1 View 17080 MSR > R > D > CD by Jim Powell EAC > SHN by J.Barnes (heyitsmejess@aol.com)
Charles Bandrofcheck (5/5) FLAC / 1 View 131661 This is a restoration/rework using shnid 18100 (Cotsman) and 09580 (Axelrod)
Marty (5/4.9) CDR / 1 View 18100
Notes: shn
Kelendris (5/0) / 0 View 131661
Lester's Soundroom (5/5) CDR / 1 View 18100
Notes: / SHN - soundboard
Lester's Soundroom (5/5) CDR / 1 View 20008
Notes: / SHN - soundboard
bobby (5/5) lossless / 0 View 9580
bobby (5/5) lossless / 0 View 20008
bobby (5/5) lossless / 0 View 18100
bobby (5/5) lossless / 0 View 17080
sean hite (5/0) SHN / 0 View 18100
Notes: (18100) Grateful Dead: SBD>MR>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN; patched with "barely listenable portion"; Thanks to J. Powell, S. Martin, D. Litfin; edits/encoding by JCotsman
sean hite (5/0) SHN / 0 View 20008
Notes: 20008 MSR > R > D > CD by Jim Powell EAC > SHN by J.Barnes (heyitsmejess@aol.com) Track 5a edited by Seth Kaplan (alligator69@optonline.net) Uploaded to tol 06/21/2003 by Seth Kaplan
sean hite (5/0) SHN / 0 View 9580
Notes: 9580 2nd Set; SBD>MSR>C>DAT>CDR; via Raoul Duke and Mike Axelrod; Seeded to etree by Matt Vernon
sean hite (5/0) SHN / 0 View 17080
Notes: 17080 MSR > R > D > CD by Jim Powell EAC > SHN by J.Barnes (heyitsmejess@aol.com) EAC log files are included
sean hite (5/0) SHN / 0 View 9965
Notes: 9965 MSR>C>D>CD; Seeded to etree by Seth Kaplan
SpacedDeadhead (5/4.8) CDR / 1 View   SBD
Thomas Lee (5/0) shn / 1 View 17080 10780
Notes: 17080
Thomas Lee (5/0) shnf / 1 View 9580
Notes: 9580
Thomas Lee (5/0) shnf / 1 View 18100
Notes: 18100
Thomas Lee (5/0) shnf / 1 View 9965
Notes: 9965
Thomas Lee (5/0) shnf / 1 View 20008
Notes: 20008
Gary (5/4.3) CDR / 1 View 9580
Notes: SBD>MSR>C>DAT>CDR
Holden Caulfield (5/5) shn / 1 View 18100
Holden Caulfield (5/5) shn / 1 View 9580
Holden Caulfield (5/5) shn / 1 View 20008
Holden Caulfield (5/5) shn / 1 View 17080
Holden Caulfield (5/5) shn / 0 View 9965
Keith Deshane (5/0) / 0 View 9580
Marc Ciccarelli (5/0) / 0 View   MSR > R > D > CD > EAC (secure) > SHN
Larry (5/4) / 0 View  
Douglas Tunstall (5/5) / 1 View 9965 MSR>C>D>CD
Notes: MSR>C>D>CD
Born Cross Eyed (5/5) FLAC / 1 View 9580
Notes: SBD - Axlerod
Born Cross Eyed (5/5) FLAC / 1 View 17080
Notes: SBD - edited - Kaplan
Born Cross Eyed (5/5) FLAC / 1 View 18100
Notes: SBD - Cotsman
Born Cross Eyed (5/5) FLAC / 1 View 131661
Notes: SBD - restore - Droncit
Avatar (5/5) cdr / 1 View  
Ifthir (5/0) .shn / 0 View 18100
joebeacon (5/5) cdr / 1 View  
Notes: *
Darryl Hinko (5/5) SHN / 1 View 17080
Notes: 2nd Set ONLY
MSR > R > D > CD
I also have: SHNid=9580 and SHNid=18100
Michael Mersand (5/0) / 0 View 20008
Notes: (both versions)
Brandon Johnston (5/4.9) SHN / 1 View 9580 Sbd>MR>C>DAT>CDR
Notes: shares a shn disc w/ 10-20-68
Brandon Johnston (5/4.9) SHN / 1 View 18100 Sbd>MR>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN; patched with
Notes: Set II Only, more complete than 9580. shares a shn disc w/ 12-29-68 (5425)
Jeff Mitchell (5/0) / 4 View 9580
Notes: shn
Jeff Mitchell (5/0) / 0 View 18100
Jeff Mitchell (5/0) / 0 View 20008
Jeff Mitchell (5/0) / 0 View 17080
Jeff Mitchell (5/0) / 0 View 9965
Jon Pavuk (5/4.3) SHN / 1 A A- View 17080 MSR > R > D > CD by Jim Powell EAC > SHN by J.Barnes
mirkman (5/1) / 0 View  
Notes: sbd
Greg Drummond (5/0) cd / 1 View 17080 MSR > R > D > CD
Notes: Intro 0:12 Dark Star > 12:17 Cryptical Envelopment > 1:48 drums > 0:14 The Other One > 10:55 Cryptical Envelopment > 7:06 New Potato Caboose > 0:41 [ > New Potato Caboose# 1:44 * #Alligator > 2:35 * drums > 5:05 * Alligator > 4:39 ] * Alligator/Caution jam > 12:36 Feedback > 6:01 We Bid You Goodnight 0:45 closing comments 0:32
Greg Drummond (5/0) cd / 1 View 20008
Notes: Intro 0:12 Dark Star > 12:17 Cryptical Envelopment > 1:48 drums > 0:14 The Other One > 10:55 Cryptical Envelopment > 7:06 New Potato Caboose > 0:41 [ > New Potato Caboose# 1:44 * #Alligator > 2:35 * drums > 5:05 * Alligator > 4:39 ] * Alligator/Caution jam > 12:36 Feedback > 6:01 We Bid You Goodnight 0:45 closing comments 0:32
Greg Drummond (5/0) cd / 1 View 18100 SBD>MR>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN patched with SBD>MR>R>D>CD>EAC>SHN
Notes: Dark Star--> Cryptical Envelopment--> Drums--> The Other One--> Cryptical Envelopment--> New Potato Caboose%// //Alligator--> Drums--> Alligator//(-->) //Caution--> Feedback--> We Bid You Goodnight
Greg Drummond (5/0) cd / 1 View 9580 SBD>MSR>C>DAT>CDR
Notes: Introduction > Dark Star > Cryptical Envelopment > Drums > The Other One > Cryptical Envelopment > New Potato Caboose % //Caution > Feedback > And We Bid You Good Night & closing
Jordan Jacobs (5/3) SHN/CD / 0 View   SBD
Notes: SBD>MR>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN *patched with SBD>MR>R>D>CD>EAC>SHN
Jordan Jacobs (5/3) CD/1 / 0 View   SBD
Notes: MSR > R > D > CD > EAC(secure) > SHN
Clay Hart (5/4.9) CD / 1 A View  
thrak (5/5) shn / 1 View 9580 2nd Set; SBD>MSR>C>DAT>CDR; via Raoul Duke and Mike Axelrod; Seeded to etree by Matt...
thrak (5/5) shn / 2 View 17080 MSR > R > D > CD by Jim Powell EAC > SHN by J.Barnes (heyitsmejess@aol.com) EAC log...
thrak (5/5) shn / 1 View 20008 MSR > R > D > CD by Jim Powell EAC > SHN by J.Barnes (heyitsmejess@aol.com) Track 5a...
thrak (5/5) shn / 1 View 18100 SBD>MR>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN, patched with SBD>MR>R>D>CD>EAC>SHN
thrak (5/5) shn / 1 View 9965 MSR>C>D>CD; Seeded to etree by Seth Kaplan
wrs2lig (5/0) / 0 View 20008
neal r (5/4) / 1 View 20008
Notes: Flac Archive #154
Alan (Slydell) (5/5) SHN / 1 View 9580 SBD>MSR>C>DAT>CDR
Steve Blanchard (5/5) SHN / 1 View 9580 SBD>MSR>C>DAT>CDR
Steve Swartz (5/0) / 0 View 20008
Steve Swartz (5/0) / 0 View 20008
Steve Swartz (5/0) / 0 View 18100
Steve Swartz (5/0) / 0 View 9580
Steve Swartz (5/0) / 0 View 17080
ratskrad (5/0) / 0 View 18100
ratskrad (5/0) / 0 View 20008
Jason Westerfeld (5/4.9) shn / 1 View 18100 SBD>MR>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN patched with SBD>MR>R>D>CD>EAC>SHN
Jason Westerfeld (5/4.9) shn / 1 View 20008 MSR > R > D > CD > EAC (secure) > SHN
Jason Westerfeld (5/4.9) shn / 1 View 17080 MSR > R > D > CD > EAC(secure) > SHN
niccolo mugnaioni (5/5) cdr / 1 View   mr>c>dat>cdr
Notes: disc1/set1:dark tar(12:23)>cryptical envelopment(1:47)>drums(0:12)>the other one(10:42)>cryptical reprise(6:58),new potato caboose(0:37),caution>feedback(8:25)>and we bid you goodnight(1:13). "New Potato Caboose" is almost missing.
yamadog1998 (5/0) / 0 View 17080
j (5/0) / 0 View 18100
Jeff Schlingbaum (5/5) CDR / 1 A- View 9580 SBD
Jim Bennett (5/5) SHN / 1 View 9965
Gavin (5/5) cdr / 1 View  
crazyfingerss (5/0) / 0 View 9580 gd68-11-01.sbd.axelrod.9580.shnf
crazyfingerss (5/0) / 0 View 17080 gd68-11-01.sbd.kaplan.17080.shnf
crazyfingerss (5/0) / 0 View 18100 gd68-11-01.sbd.cotsman.18100.sbeok.shnf
crazyfingerss (5/0) / 0 View 20008 gd68-11-01.sbd.kaplan.20008.sbeok.shnf
Rudolf E. Zielinski (5/5) CDR / 1 A+ View  
john (5/5) / 1 View 18100 SBD>MR>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN
barry bryson (5/4.3) analog/90m / 1 View   sbd.
Andrew Murawa (5/5) cd / 1 B View   SBD>MSR>C>DAT>CDR
RamblinRose (5/5) CD-R / 1 View   SBD>MSR>C>DAT>CDR
Rob Lecker (5/0) CDR / 1 A- View   SBD>MSR>C>DAT>CDR
jamestowne (5/0) CD / 1 View