Garcia & Saunders 01/17/1974
Set I
Someday Baby @
La-La
I Second that Emotion *
My Funny Valentine #
Who's Loving You Tonight? $
La-La
I Second that Emotion *
My Funny Valentine #
Who's Loving You Tonight? $
Set II
Finders Keepers
Think
Are You Lonely For Me, Baby? %
The Harder They Come ^
Think
Are You Lonely For Me, Baby? %
The Harder They Come ^
Set III
Comment
@ Lightnin' Hopkins Cover
* Smokey Robinson Cover
# Rogers & Hammerstein Cover
$ Junior Walker & the Allstars Cover
% Freddie Scott Cover
^ Jimmy Cliff Cover
* Smokey Robinson Cover
# Rogers & Hammerstein Cover
$ Junior Walker & the Allstars Cover
% Freddie Scott Cover
^ Jimmy Cliff Cover
Collectors With This Show
| User (active/rating) | Media / # | Show | Sound | Details | DB Source | User Source |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| OldNeumanntapr | FLAC / 0 | A+ | View | Soundboard; Master Reel >DAT (48khz) | ||
| Notes: | (Set II Only) Notes: - This recording has been provided by an anonymous source. - Very little work has been done on this, a few clicks removed, one repair and some level adjustments made. - The mix changes around 22 seconds, Garcia's vocal is moved from the left channel to become more central. * - All files have been tagged. Garcia doesn't get to sound any better than this. | |||||
| CJ | CDR / 2 | View | ||||
| Rick Martin | Flac / 2 | A | View | Source: Soundboard > Master Reel > DAT (48k) | ||
| Notes: | SBD 2016 | |||||
| MyLibbyDog | CDR / 2 | A | B | View | ||
| Notes: | Average Stereo Soundboard of a typical Merle and Jerry concert, with a typical set list. All the latter songs are very long, nothing under 10 minutes, with "Are You Lonely Tonight" and "Whose Loving You Tonight" coming in at 21 and 16 minutes respectively. The show has issues with a poor mix on guitar, vocals and sax at different points. | |||||
| sean hite | FLAC / 0 | View | 76474 | |||
| Notes: | 76474 Garcia & Saunders; Compilation of speed corrected SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR (shnid = 20678) and disk 1 of Dick's Gift (MSR>DATs>CDRs>EAC>SHN) (unknown shnid) with beginning of Harder They Come patched in; fix of 76398 | |||||
| sean hite | FLAC / 0 | View | 76471 | |||
| Notes: | 76471 Garcia & Saunders: primary source MAC > D > CD > EAC > SHN. Recorded by Louis Falanga, Sony ECM 250 > Sony TC-110 from shnid 76399 with additional audience material added to complete show | |||||
| sean hite | SHN / 0 | View | 20678 | |||
| Notes: | 20678 Garcia & Saunders; SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR | |||||
| sean hite | FLAC / 0 | View | 90365 | |||
| Notes: | 90365 JGMS; flac16; Matrix 4 Source Mix - SBD1 & 2 (shn id 76474) Compilation of speed corrected SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR (shnid = 20678) and disk 1 of Dick's Gift (MSR>DATs>CDRs>EAC>SHN) (unknown shnid) with beginning of Harder They Come patched in; upgrade of 76398 + AUD1 & 2 (shn id 76471) primary source MAC > D > CD > EAC > SHN. Recorded by Louis Falanga, Sony ECM 250 > Sony TC-110 from shnid 76399 with additional audience material added to complete show - matrix mixing by Kevin Tobin | |||||
| sean hite | SHN / 0 | View | 76398 | |||
| Notes: | 76398 Garcia & Saunders; Compilation of speed corrected SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR (shnid = 20678) and disk 1 of Dick's Gift (MSR>DATs>CDRs>EAC>SHN) (unknown shnid); fix by kevtobin | |||||
| sean hite | FLAC / 0 | View | 76399 | |||
| Notes: | 76399 Garcia & Saunders: MAC > D > CD > EAC > SHN. Recorded by Louis Falanga, Sony ECM 250 > Sony TC-110. This matches the sbd of 1/17/74 and portions of audience from shnid=10024; speed correction and patching by kevtobin | |||||
| SpacedDeadhead | CDR / 2 | View | SBD | |||
| karl banach | cdr / 2 | A+ | A+ | View | ||
| Sergio Sanchez | SHN / 0 | View | 20678 | SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR | ||
| Notes: | Garcia & Saunders | |||||
| Jon Pavuk | SHN / 2 | A+ | A | View | 20678 | SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR |
| Jon Pavuk | FLAC / 2 | A+ | A+ | View | 76475 | DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Mix See Notes |
| Notes: | Disc One 71:08 Set I Someday Baby [16:24] La-La* [14:04] Second That Emotion* [15:55] My Funny Valentine* [24:41] Disc Two 73:46 Set I (con't) Who's Lovin' You Tonight? [16:40] Set II Finders Keepers* [11:29] Think* [11:04] Are You Lonely For Me Baby? [21:56] Harder They Come [12:32] *From Dick's Gift SBD1 "DICK'S GIFT" Disk 1: Per www.thejerrysite.com: ??/??/74 Unknown Venue, Unknown City, Unknown State 1. Finders Keepers 10:12 2. Think 9:12 3. Lala 11:34 4. I Second That Emotion 14:31 5. My Funny Valentine 23:59 Comments: This tape circulates labled "LOM Mystery Tape", and usually with 4 songs before Finders Keepers (see ??/??/73). These songs are from the winter or spring of '74, before Martin Fierro became a fulltime member. Supposedly found in vault unlabled by Dick Latvala. It is doubtful that all these songs are from the same show. Recordings: 71 SBD (MSR>DATs>CDRs>EAC>SHN) Extracted and shorten compressed by DSacks@hatfield.etree.org. SBD2 (shnid 20678) SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR DAT TSF =====> Ziggy EAC > .shn ======> Seth K Seed discs =====> courtesy of Tommy Banjo. Thanks! Notes: Disc 1, Track 1- fades in, and the first few seconds of intro are missing. Disc 1, Track 1-Digi noise: :21-:25; :52-:55; 1:04-1:05; 1:18-1:26; 1:34-1:36; 1:45; 2:21 Disc 1 Track 1- Right Channel is low until: 1:39 Also, levels are being adjusted, and full instrumentation does not occur until 2:04 Disc 2, Track 5- vocals out of the mix, entire song. Disc 2, Track 7- 10:44 Jerry says: Sure is quiet for Berkeley. (pause) This is Martin Fierro. Disc 2, Track 9 Intro and first line (They tell me there's a pie up in the sky) is missing. AUD1 (shnid 10024) MAC > D > CD > EAC > SHN Recorded by Bob Menke, unknown setup. Extraction using EAC, retracking using CD Wave, sector boundary verification using shntool, and .shn encoding using mkwACT. Flaws/Notes: d1t04 Second That Emotion light tick @ 4:22 d1t05 My Funny Valentine cut/splice @ 16:08 d2t02 Finders Keepers cuts in, not much missing d2t02-03 pop just before track marker d2t06 Lonely for Me (master?) anomalies @ 10:36-11:04 d2t06 Lonely for Me cuts out Additional Notes: Variable speed problems throughout, though absent those problems (which really aren't that distracting) this is an excellent recording. I will not note specific speed-related anomalies in these flaw notes. This is tracked and noted as a three-set show, consistent with the taper's recollection and notations. However, it seems at least possible that this material derives from two separate shows, either from 1/17 and 1/18 or from early and late shows on the 18th. First, the show is longer in terms of sets and minutes than just about any other Garcia & Saunders show on record. Second, Finders Keepers, Think, the "sure is quiet for Berkeley" comment, and Are You Lonely For Me Baby? have circulated since at least 1990 with a date of 1/17 (albeit 1973, which seems clearly incorrect). Third, the tuning break during "set III" (disc four) has two separate audience members calling for songs that appear earlier on this recording (Finders Keepers and Second That Emotion). It seems unlikely that two separate audience members would have forgotten what had been played only an hour or two earlier and/or requested that a song be repeated. Ultimately, we will probably never know, but this material rocks nonetheless! ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tech Notes SHNs were decoded to wave and Audition 1.0 was used to reassemble the tracks back to 1 long wave. Audition 1.0 was used to align & synch the both SBD & AUD sources. Audition 1.0 used to adjust the volume for the AUD, matrix/CTR and LFE channels. Surcode CD Pro DTS was used to encode to DTS. - First 2 minutes of Someday Baby fixed by bob - thank you - Mixed by kevtobin@yahoo.com - FLAC conversion 07-AUG-2006 --------------------------------------------------------- DTS-Audio-CD Info Front Left Channel Combination SBD1/2 (see notes) Right Channel Combination SBD1/2 (see notes) Center Mixed to mono -3.0db Combination SBD1/2 (see notes) Surround Left Channel -1.5db AUD Right Channel -1.5db AUD Sub/LFE Mixed to mono -3.0db Combination SBD1/2 (see notes) --------------------------------------------------------- I matched the speed of this recording to the Dick's Gift - sbd was a bit fast overall (about 1.5 second per minute) and audience was a little better (about 1/4 second per minute) in comparison. I also switched the left and right tracks of the sbd in order to match Merle on left track and Jerry on right as it is on Dick's Gift. Audio Patching: 1) First 7.036 of Someday Baby patched from audience to give better lead in. The rest of Someday Baby came from sbd source. 2) The next 2 minutes of Someday Baby were inserted from a fix patch sent to me by Bob. "I fixed most of the digisnits from the aud source which was adjusted to match (when it was an improvement). A couple of the smaller ones the cure was worse than the fix so I left them, I also adjusted leveling problems in the sbd source." 3) Between Someday Baby and LaLa - 20.277 was missing from sbd - patched and normalized from audience. 4) 2 sec gap was removed from between (all) tracks on sbd source. 5) LaLa came from Dick's Gift. 6) 2:20 between LaLa and Second That Emotion filled in from sbd source. 7) Second That Emotion came from Dick's Gift. 8) 1:12 between Second That Emotion and My Funny Valentine filled in from sbd source. 9) My Funny Valentine came from Dick's Gift. 10) 16:08 in My Funny Valentine - 38.439 was missing from audience - patched and normalized from Dick's Gift 11) First 13.288 of Who's Lovin' You Tonight patched from audience to start disk 2. 12) Who's Lovin' You Tonight from sbd source. 13) Last 13.425 of Who's Lovin' You Tonight patched from audience to end Set 1. 14) 39.500 was missing from start of audience Finders Keepers - patched and normalized from sbd source. 15) First 39.500 of Finders Keepers from sbd source. 16) Finders Keepers came from Dick's Gift. 17) 1:12 between Finders Keepers and Think filled in from sbd source. 18) Think came from Dick's Gift. 19) Rest of the show comes from sbd source. 20) 15:35 in Are You Lonely Tonight, the audience recording ends. 19:06 was replaced from the sbd to finish the song and include Harder They Come ------------------------------------------- | |||||
| stephen | SHN / 2 | SBD | View | |||
| Cecil Hayden | Shn / 2 | B+ | View | SBD>MR>DAT>CDR>EAC>SHN | ||
| Notes: | seed-Tommy Banjo. | |||||
| dann | shn / 1 | View | 20678 | |||
| Jeff Schlingbaum | CDR / 2 | A- | View | 20678 | SBD | |
| Rudolf E. Zielinski | CDR / 2 | A+ | View | AUD | ||
| Joe Rizzo | CD / 2 | A | A | View | ||
| Notes: | 2 SHN | |||||
| Adam Lawler | .shn / 2 | View | 20678 | SBD | ||
| Michael Drayer | SHN / 0 | View | 20678 | SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR | ||
| Notes: | Jerry Garcia - guitar, vocals Merl Saunders - keyboards, vocals John Kahn - bass Martin Fierro - saxophone, flute Bill Kreutzmann - drums | |||||
| Joanne | CDR / 2 | TBA | TBA | View | SBD > MR > DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR | |
| Alex Tamargo | CD-R / 1 | A+ | A | View | ||
| Patrick | .shn / 2 | View | ||||
| Dan Niggemann | .shn / 2 | B+ | View | 20678 | ||
| Notes: | SBD> MR> DAT(44.1kHz)> CDR | |||||
| jr | / 2 | View | ||||
| Kevin Sigafoos | shn / 2 | View | 20678 | |||
| katy miller | shn / 1 | View | ||||
| Bob Furar | shn / 2 | View | SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR | |||
| Grayson Kimball | CDR / 2 | A+ | View | 20678 | SBD | |
| Notes: | Set 1+2 | |||||
| Brad Foster | FLAC / 1 | View | SBD > MR > DAT (48k) | |||
| Notes: | Set 2 only | |||||
| Brad Foster | FLAC / 2 | View | (Matrix) MSR > DAT > CD > EAC > SHN + MAC > D > CD > EAC > SHN | |||
| Ryan | flac / 2 | View | ||||
| John Gibbs | flac / 2 | View | 76474 | |||
| groundhog | SHN / 2 | View | 20678 | SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR | ||
| Notes: | 890mb | |||||
| bob | DTS / 2 | View | ||||
| mike west | SHN / 2 | View | 20678 | |||
| Notes: | SBD | |||||
| Keith Mageau | CDR / 2 | A- | View | SBD>MR>DAT (44.1KHz)>CDR | ||
| zowie | cd / 1 | a | View | 76398 | sdb | |
| Notes: | 2nd set | |||||
| tomtaper4 | Cass dat cdr / | A | View | 20678 | Sbd | |
| john zicconi | CDR / 2 | SBD | View | SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR | ||
| Notes: | With Bill Kreutzmann on drums | |||||
| Alan | CD / 1 | A- | A- | View | Jerry Garcia 5CD box set | |
| Notes: | 3 songs CD1 Jerry Garcia box set. | |||||
| Alex Shapiro | CDR / 2 | View | SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR | |||
| Joey | shn / 2 | View | SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR | |||
| Notes: | Garcia & Saunders Keystone Berkeley, CA January 17, 1974 Disc one: 68:53 SET I 1. Someday Baby 15:21 2. La La 13:34 3. I Second that Emotion 15:34 4. My Funny Valentine - 24:22 Disc two: 72:37 1. Who’s Loving You Tonight? 15:39 SET II 2. Finders Keepers 11:54 3. Think 10:54 4. Are You Lonely For Me, Baby? 21:45 5. The Harder They Come 12:22 The Lineup: · Jerry Garcia - guitar, vocals · Merl Saunders - keyboards, vocals · John Kahn - bass · Martin Fierro - saxophone, flute · Bill Kreutzmann - drums The Lineage: SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR Notes: Disc 1, Track 1- fades in, and the first few seconds of intro are missing. Disc 1, Track 1-Digi noise: :21-:25; :52-:55; 1:04-1:05; 1:18-1:26; 1:34-1:36; 1:45; 2:21 Disc 1 Track 1- Right Channel is low until: 1:39 Also, levels are being adjusted, and full instrumentation does not occur until 2:04 Disc 2, Track 5- vocals out of the mix, entire song. Disc 2, Track 7- 10:44 Jerry says: “Sure is quiet for Berkeley. (pause) This is Martin Fierro.” Disc 2, Track 9 Intro and first line (“They tell me there's a pie up in the sky”) missing. (I did the DAE using EAC, properly set offsets, etc. Could not get the original DAT). | |||||
| Charlie Kidder | SHN / 2 | View | SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR | |||
| Jimmy | cdr / 2 | A | A | View | 20678 | |
| Jim K | CD / 2 | View | 20678 | SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR =>DAT =>SHN =>CDR | ||
| Mia724 | CDR / 4 | View | ||||
| Notes: | Combined w/ 1/18/74 | |||||
| bob | / 0 | View | ||||
| Donny | SHN / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | SBD | |||||
| Bob Allred | shn / 2 | View | 20678 | |||
| Josh Cooperman | CDR / 2 | A | View | |||
| Matt Xavier | / 0 | View | ||||
| MANDALA | cd / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | ty mh | |||||
| Augwst | CDR / 2 | View | ||||
| NEWMAN | / 0 | View | ||||
| roseybubble | CDR / 2 | View | SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR | |||
| Pete W | / 0 | View | 20678 | |||
| Sojahsey | CDR / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | SBD | |||||
| Scott S | SHN / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | SBD>MR>DAT (44.1KHz)>CDR | |||||
| Hunter Best | CD-R / 1 | A | A | View | SBD > Reel > DAT > CD | |
| Canyon | audio / 2 | View | SBD>MR>DAT(44.1khz)>CDR | |||
| Notes: | 9 | |||||
| Scott Miller | / 0 | View | ||||
| Adam Dwyer | shn / 2 | View | 20678 | |||
| Bill Tetzeli | SHN / 2 | View | 20678 | SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR | ||
| Marshall | Flac / 2 | View | ||||
| Mike In Boone | CDR / 2 | A | A | View | 90365 | Matrix (90365) |
| slslbs | shn / 2 | A | A | View | ||
| Mike McCarthy | cdr / 1 | View | sbd>rr>dat>cdr | |||
| Notes: | db.etree.org notes indicate this show is often incorrectly labeled as 1/17/73. | |||||
| Michael McMullan | CDR/FLAC / 2 | A | View | 90365 | Matrix | |
| August | cd-r / 2 | View | 20678 | sbd | ||
| Chris_G | DD#83 / 2 | View | 20678 | |||
| Jason Moleton | cdr / 2 | View | 90365 | |||
| Notes: | matrix; 50%sbd/50%aud | |||||
| Dr. Robbins | CDR / 2 | View | ||||
| Laotsu | CD-R / 2 | View | ||||
| William Ferdinandsen | CDR / 2 | View | ||||
| Marc | .shn / 0 | View | 20678 | |||
| C.O. Russo | cdr / 2 | View | ||||
| TedK | cdr / 1 | View | ||||
| Notes: | DG 74 | |||||
| frank_the_third | SHN / 2 | View | ||||
| Gregg | CDR / 1 | View | SBD | |||
| Notes: | SBD: Partial | |||||
| Angelo | CD-R / 2 | View | ||||
| kevin boland | Flac / 1 | View | ||||
| Geoff MacNaughton | 1 / 2 | B | View | 76474 | ||
| quimbo | FLAC / 0 | View | 90398 | DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Mix | ||
| quimbo | FLAC / 0 | View | 90365 | SBD + AUD Matrix 4 Source Mix | ||
| quimbo | FLAC / 0 | View | 76474 | SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR | ||
| quimbo | FLAC / 0 | View | 76471 | MAC > D > CD > EAC > SHN | ||
| quimbo | FLAC / 0 | View | 76399 | |||
| quimbo | FLAC / 0 | View | 136780 | |||
| Carter | CDR / 2 | A | View | |||
| Phil | CD/R / 2 | View | ||||
| Rick Childs | CDR / 2 | A++ | A++ | View | 20678 | |
| Notes: | My Show Consists of 2 Discs Which Go As Follows Per Jerry List: Discs One Set One: Someday Baby La-La I Second That Emotion My Funny Valentine Disc Two Set One Continued: Who's Loving You Tonight Set Two Disc Two: Finders Keepers Think Are You Lonely For Me, Baby? Harder They Come | |||||
| Sparkita | CDR / 2 | View | ||||
| Notes: | 2016 - disc 2 only? | |||||
| Will Pinner | CD-R / 2 | A+ | A++ | View | 20678 | SBD > Master Reel > DAT (44.1KHz) > CDr > EAC (secure) > .shn |
| SpiralLightofVenus | FLAC / 0 | SBD | View | |||
| Notes: | SBD TB18 | |||||
| Brian C | CDR / 2 | A | A | View | SBD>MR >DAT (44.1KHz) >CDR | |
| Mark Diamond | / 2 | View | ||||
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