Grateful Dead 10/16/1974
Winterland Arena, San Francisco, CA
Source Summary
Source: Reel Master>Cassette>DAT>EAC 0.93b>MKWACT via JR Fishman
Source: Reel Master>Cassette>DAT>EAC 0.93b>MKWACT via JR Fishman
Other Sources
SHNID 222 SBD: MR> R> C> D> CD> EAC> SHN, with Aud...
SHNID 88180 flac16 ; Recording Info: SBD -> Master Reel ->...
SHNID 88251 flac16 ; Recording Info: SBD -> Master Reel ->...
SHNID 90145 flac16 ; Recording Info: SBD -> Master Reel ->...
SHNID 107036 flac16 ; Sony ECM 250 >> Sony 110 (mono) >>...
SHNID 131539 flac16 ; 2 Source Matrix by Dusborne;...
SHNID 137663 flac16 ; Set 2 Source: Master Audience Reel >...
SHNID 137664 flac24 ; Set 2 Source: Master Audience Reel >...
SHNID 176618 flac1648 Transfer Info: Master Cassettes...
SHNID 176619 flac2496 Louis Falanga's Master Audience...
Grateful Dead
Winterland Arena
San Franscisco, CA
10/16/1974
Source: Reel Master>Cassette>DAT>EAC 0.93b>MKWACT
Sound Rating: 9.5 (out of 10)
Disk 1
1 //Deal
2 Mexicali Blues
3 The Roses
4 BIODTL
5 Scarlet Begonias
6 Me and Bobby McGee
7 Tennessee
8 Cumberland
9 Row Jimmy
Disk 2
(conclusion set 1)
1 Playin' (34 minutes) *
star Set 2)
2 JBG (encore 1)
3 Phils Happy Birthday
4 US Blues (encore 2)
(Start Set 2)
5. Phil and Ned > Deep Meditative Space ...
Disk 3
1 Space continues >
2. Wharf Rat > Space >
3. Space
4. Eyes of the World >
5. Big River
6. Ship of Fools
Disk 4
1. Truckin >
2. Going Down the Road >
UJB // (fragment)
Transcription by
JR Fishman
NY, NY
fishmanj_98@yahoo.com
Transcribers Notes:
1. The quality of these tapes far exceed the multi gen versions that have circulated since the late 70's. These came from DATS that were procured in 1995/1996 and were originally played back on a Fostex D-10 DAT recorder and recorded to CD using an standalone hhb-800 CD-r. For purists, I would strongly suggest moving D2.T2 thru D2.D4 to D4 (after UJB).
2. Some of the Track Markings can be better maintained. Somebody might want to retrack.
3. "To Patch or not to Patch - that be the question". There are at-best below-average audience recordings that can be used to patch. It was decided it was not worth the effort to paste in an inferior source to such a fine SBD.
Winterland Arena
San Franscisco, CA
10/16/1974
Source: Reel Master>Cassette>DAT>EAC 0.93b>MKWACT
Sound Rating: 9.5 (out of 10)
Disk 1
1 //Deal
2 Mexicali Blues
3 The Roses
4 BIODTL
5 Scarlet Begonias
6 Me and Bobby McGee
7 Tennessee
8 Cumberland
9 Row Jimmy
Disk 2
(conclusion set 1)
1 Playin' (34 minutes) *
star Set 2)
2 JBG (encore 1)
3 Phils Happy Birthday
4 US Blues (encore 2)
(Start Set 2)
5. Phil and Ned > Deep Meditative Space ...
Disk 3
1 Space continues >
2. Wharf Rat > Space >
3. Space
4. Eyes of the World >
5. Big River
6. Ship of Fools
Disk 4
1. Truckin >
2. Going Down the Road >
UJB // (fragment)
Transcription by
JR Fishman
NY, NY
fishmanj_98@yahoo.com
Transcribers Notes:
1. The quality of these tapes far exceed the multi gen versions that have circulated since the late 70's. These came from DATS that were procured in 1995/1996 and were originally played back on a Fostex D-10 DAT recorder and recorded to CD using an standalone hhb-800 CD-r. For purists, I would strongly suggest moving D2.T2 thru D2.D4 to D4 (after UJB).
2. Some of the Track Markings can be better maintained. Somebody might want to retrack.
3. "To Patch or not to Patch - that be the question". There are at-best below-average audience recordings that can be used to patch. It was decided it was not worth the effort to paste in an inferior source to such a fine SBD.
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SBD: MR> R> C> D> CD> EAC>... (4)
flac16 ; Recording Info:... (0)
flac16 ; Recording Info:... (0)
flac16 ; Recording Info:... (0)
flac16 ; Sony ECM 250 >>... (0)
flac16 ; 2 Source Matrix... (0)
flac16 ; Set 2 Source:... (0)
flac24 ; Set 2 Source:... (0)
flac1648
Transfer Info:... (0)
flac2496 Louis Falanga's... (0)
SBD: MR> R> C> D> CD> EAC>... (4)
flac16 ; Recording Info:... (0)
flac16 ; Recording Info:... (0)
flac16 ; Recording Info:... (0)
flac16 ; Sony ECM 250 >>... (0)
flac16 ; 2 Source Matrix... (0)
flac16 ; Set 2 Source:... (0)
flac24 ; Set 2 Source:... (0)
flac1648
Transfer Info:... (0)
flac2496 Louis Falanga's... (0)
Date: 11/11/2002
User:
barton hall
you are correct about the track markers needing improvement. several songs start several seconds before the track marker. 10 second dropout at end of d3t01. setlist errors: d3t02 is continuation of space. d3t03 is wharf rat>space. dead air tuning segments should come at end of previous track, not at beginning, so that when one plays a song they don't have to go through 1 minute of dead air before the song starts. seekable shn's would have been appreciated also. d2t02 to d2t04 should definitely be moved to end of d4 where they belong. why weren't they in the first place? you only have to rename the tracks, and edit the md5 to match. aside from that, the sound quality is great.
Date: 10/01/2003
User:
Ziggy
Is this really such an improvement?
http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=222 sounds just as good, it's patched, and has a complete Uncle John's.
I think I just answered my own question.
http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=222 sounds just as good, it's patched, and has a complete Uncle John's.
I think I just answered my own question.
Date: 10/01/2003
User:
dms
I don't personally own the shnid=222 source, but the text file indicates a cut in Uncle John's at 4:11
Date: 10/02/2003
User:
Ziggy
It's complete on my copy, but I'll check it again and get back to you.
Date: 05/11/2005
User:
Deadhead
This seed is no different in sound quality than the other version of 10/16/74. By viewing these files with Cool Edit Pro's spectral view one can clearly see that both recordings come from the same source.
The lineage in the info is incorrect, the source for the most recently circulated DAT is:
Soundboard -> Master Reel -> Reel -> Cassette -> DAT
All in all this seed might be considered a downgrade from shnid 222 due to the missing songs due to the lack of AUD patching.
The lineage in the info is incorrect, the source for the most recently circulated DAT is:
Soundboard -> Master Reel -> Reel -> Cassette -> DAT
All in all this seed might be considered a downgrade from shnid 222 due to the missing songs due to the lack of AUD patching.
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