Grateful Dead 10/12/1983
Madison Square Garden, New York, NY
Source Summary
flac16; Matrix by Hunter Seamons using Final Cut Pro (SHN & FLAC > AIFF > Final Cut w/EQ > AIFF CD tracking via Audacity > FLAC16 via xACT w/meta-tagging), of shnid's 8112 & 99070.
flac16; Matrix by Hunter Seamons using Final Cut Pro (SHN & FLAC > AIFF > Final Cut w/EQ > AIFF CD tracking via Audacity > FLAC16 via xACT w/meta-tagging), of shnid's 8112 & 99070.
Other Sources
SHNID 345 unknown aud (could be FOB Schoeps mk4- see pub...
SHNID 8112 SBD > Cassette Master > Dat x 2 > CDR; via Bob...
SHNID 30827 flac16 ; Source: FOB > 1 Neumann U87 + 2...
SHNID 33340 flac16 ; Sennheiser 421's > Sony TCD-5M > Sony...
SHNID 91125 flac16 ; Recording Info: (FOB) Sennheiser 441...
SHNID 92461 flac16 ; SBD and Audience Matrix Mix of about...
SHNID 99070 2 Beyer M160>Sony TCD5M Master Cassette>SHN
SHNID 101954 flac16 ; Lineage: master cassette > cd > eac...
SHNID 117774 flac16 ; Source: 2 Sennheiser 421 microphones...
SHNID 122216 flac24 ; Updated Lineage: Sennhesier 441 fob>...
SHNID 135251 flac16 ; 2 Source Matrix by Dusborne;...
SHNID 135289 flac24 ; Master Audience Recorded By Steve...
SHNID 135290 flac16 ; Master Audience Recorded By Steve...
SHNID 137302 flac24 ; Updated Recording Info: (FOB)...
SHNID 137323 flac16 ; Updated Recording Info: (FOB)...
SHNID 140818 flac24 ; Partial Show Recording Info: AKG Mics...
SHNID 141012 flac16 ; Partial Show Recording Info: AKG Mics...
SHNID 143608 flac16 ; Mark Cohen's Master (FOB) Audience...
SHNID 143609 flac24 ; Mark Cohen's Master (FOB) Audience...
SHNID 163835 flac1648 Source Info: Jim Vita's Master...
SHNID 163836 flac2496 Source Info: Jim Vita's Master...
SHNID 167752 flac1648 Rob Eaton's Master Audience...
SHNID 167753 flac2496 Rob Eaton's Master Audience...
Grateful Dead
Madison Square Garden
New York, NY
October 12, 1983
Jerry Garcia - Lead Guitar, Vocals
Mickey Hart - Drums
Bill Kreutzmann - Drums
Phil Lesh - Electric Bass, Vocals
Brent Mydland - Keyboards, Vocals
Bob Weir - Rhythm Guitar, Vocals
*Matrix*
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SBD (shnid=8112):
Lineage: SBD > Cassette Master > Dat x 2 > CDR > SHN
All editing was performed with Cool Edit Pro. I made several splices to patch
cassette flips using the etree audience version of this show and
used many different techniques to make these splices as transparent
as possible. Patches are found on the following tracks:
d1t01 6:49.23 --> 7:15.45
d1t02 0:00.00 --> 0:16.68
d1t03 0:00.00 --> 0:10.74
d1t04 0:00.00 --> 0:11.14
d1t07 0:00.00 --> 0:12.44
d1t09 4:21.98 --> 4:25.72
4:32.27 --> 4:34.87
d2t03 8:07.53 --> 10:42.52
d3t01 10:25.76 --> 10:42.20
I would like to thank my friend Bob for getting me the etree
discs to make the patches and thank whomever took the time to
record these wonderful audience tapes.
[2-second cuts in Help On the Way and Drums]
[Circulated 3/10/02]
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AUD (shnid=99070):
2 Beyer M160> Sony TCD5M Master Cassette> SHN
[Archive note:]
[from rumrunner: "I downloaded these from an ftp server as is and several years later discovered there was no shnid, so I requested a shnid, and then torrented them. So I neither taped or transferred these."]
[Circulated 1/23/03; added to the database 5/19/09.]
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Thank you to Bob Harrell and Jim Groves for the SBD transfer,
to the two unknown tapers, Rob Eaton, and Mark Cohen for recording the show,
to rumrunners for sharing the Beyer M160 AUD source,
to Andy Gustin for sharing the unknown AUD source (used for patches),
and to Charlie Miller and Scott Clugston for the Eaton/Cohen AUD transfer (patch for Drums).
Matrix by Hunter Seamons using Final Cut Pro (SHN & FLAC > AIFF > Final Cut w/EQ > AIFF CD tracking via Audacity > FLAC16 via xACT w/meta-tagging)
October 12, 2024
Set I
-----
d1t01 - Cold Rain And Snow
d1t02 - Minglewood Blues
d1t03 - Ramble On Rose
d1t04 - My Brother Esau
d1t05 - It Must Have Been The Roses
d1t06 - Cassidy >
d1t07 - Cumberland Blues
d1t08 - Looks Like Rain >
d1t09 - Might As Well
Set II
-----
d2t01 - Help On The Way >
d2t02 - Slipknot! >
d2t03 - Franklin's Tower
d2t04 - Women Are Smarter
d2t05 - He's Gone >
d2t06 - Drums >
d3t01 - Space >
d3t02 - Truckin' >
d3t03 - Black Peter >
d3t04 - Not Fade Away
Encore
------
d3t05 - Revolution*
*first time played
Notes:
The SBD cassette master source had some digital noise reduction applied (unlike 10/11/83, which had none, but this source still sounds pretty good). A subtle metallic tinkling sound can be heard at times during quieter parts of the recording, and there seems to be a slightly more brittle sound at times. From 4:47 in Drums to 10:18 in Space, this "DNR sound" becomes much more prominent and pretty distracting. To correct or help mask this issue, the matrix was mixed very AUD-heavy here, with the audience recording becoming the dominant source. At the beginning of Space, the DNR sound shifts exclusively to the left channel in the SBD. As an experiment, we restored the right channel of the matrix to its original SBD-heavy ratio at this point, while we maintained an AUD-heavy ratio in the left channel. The resulting "inverted" mix had a relatively balanced and pleasing sound - it accentuated Jerry's guitar more in the Garden. It seems the fact that Jerry's guitar and most of the other instruments are pretty centered-sounding in the SBD contributed to why this experimental mix worked the way it did.
The SBD source was pitch corrected faster (between 0.9% and 1.3%), while the AUD was pitch corrected a little slower (generally between -0.1% and -0.7%). The pitch corrected Rob Eaton recording was used as a reference in multiple areas in both sets. There's likely still a minimal margin of error but it's overall closer.
Some initial hot vocals in Cold Rain And Snow.
Some minor SBD level adjustments were made in the first set to maintain consistency.
Very light EQ was used for a few songs early in the first set. Then, the SBD source was more muffled sounding after about a minute into Cumberland Blues through the cut in Franklin's Tower, with the high end (treble) becoming noticeably lower. Compensatory EQ was applied for this entire section and was a significant improvement. No EQ was used after the Franklin's cut.
An unknown AUD source (possibly FOB Schoeps mk4), via Andy Gustin (shnid=345, 1/31/00), patches breaks between songs in the AUD, including brief cuts at the beginnings of Cumberland Blues, Looks Like Rain, Women Are Smarter and He's Gone. The tail end of He's Gone and most of Drums are patched as well. Rob Eaton and Mark Cohen's recordings patch 1:45 in Drums for the AUD track, transferred by Charlie Miller and Scott Clugston (shnid=167752, circulated 6/3/24).
Some moments of dead air in the SBD were trimmed out to match the AUD cuts, which were also cross-faded.
An unusually loud sound effect moment in Looks Like Rain was reduced.
2-second cuts in Help On The Way and Drums in the SBD are now patched. There's also a minuscule cut in Space that was patched.
length expanded size cdr WAVE problems fmt ratio filename
8:17.70 87835484 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6060 gd83-10-12d1t01.flac
9:27.19 100063532 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6491 gd83-10-12d1t02.flac
7:14.40 76651724 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6328 gd83-10-12d1t03.flac
5:21.51 56744396 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6293 gd83-10-12d1t04.flac
6:05.28 64451900 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6007 gd83-10-12d1t05.flac
6:07.25 64797644 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6577 gd83-10-12d1t06.flac
9:52.66 104584076 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6682 gd83-10-12d1t07.flac
8:30.55 90093404 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6404 gd83-10-12d1t08.flac
4:31.05 47816204 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.7094 gd83-10-12d1t09.flac
4:48.71 50970236 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6486 gd83-10-12d2t01.flac
9:24.24 99546092 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6647 gd83-10-12d2t02.flac
14:28.71 153282236 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6674 gd83-10-12d2t03.flac
7:15.29 76802252 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6796 gd83-10-12d2t04.flac
12:52.43 136281980 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6423 gd83-10-12d2t05.flac
10:15.14 108518972 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6248 gd83-10-12d2t06.flac
14:07.71 149577836 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5306 gd83-10-12d3t01.flac
7:51.46 83192636 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6715 gd83-10-12d3t02.flac
9:03.05 95797004 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6539 gd83-10-12d3t03.flac
9:34.46 101361836 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6424 gd83-10-12d3t04.flac
5:09.03 54514700 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6830 gd83-10-12d3t05.flac
170:20.32 1802884144 B 0.6404 (20 files)
Madison Square Garden
New York, NY
October 12, 1983
Jerry Garcia - Lead Guitar, Vocals
Mickey Hart - Drums
Bill Kreutzmann - Drums
Phil Lesh - Electric Bass, Vocals
Brent Mydland - Keyboards, Vocals
Bob Weir - Rhythm Guitar, Vocals
*Matrix*
-----------------------------------------------------------------
SBD (shnid=8112):
Lineage: SBD > Cassette Master > Dat x 2 > CDR > SHN
All editing was performed with Cool Edit Pro. I made several splices to patch
cassette flips using the etree audience version of this show and
used many different techniques to make these splices as transparent
as possible. Patches are found on the following tracks:
d1t01 6:49.23 --> 7:15.45
d1t02 0:00.00 --> 0:16.68
d1t03 0:00.00 --> 0:10.74
d1t04 0:00.00 --> 0:11.14
d1t07 0:00.00 --> 0:12.44
d1t09 4:21.98 --> 4:25.72
4:32.27 --> 4:34.87
d2t03 8:07.53 --> 10:42.52
d3t01 10:25.76 --> 10:42.20
I would like to thank my friend Bob for getting me the etree
discs to make the patches and thank whomever took the time to
record these wonderful audience tapes.
[2-second cuts in Help On the Way and Drums]
[Circulated 3/10/02]
-----------------------------------------------------------------
AUD (shnid=99070):
2 Beyer M160> Sony TCD5M Master Cassette> SHN
[Archive note:]
[from rumrunner: "I downloaded these from an ftp server as is and several years later discovered there was no shnid, so I requested a shnid, and then torrented them. So I neither taped or transferred these."]
[Circulated 1/23/03; added to the database 5/19/09.]
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you to Bob Harrell and Jim Groves for the SBD transfer,
to the two unknown tapers, Rob Eaton, and Mark Cohen for recording the show,
to rumrunners for sharing the Beyer M160 AUD source,
to Andy Gustin for sharing the unknown AUD source (used for patches),
and to Charlie Miller and Scott Clugston for the Eaton/Cohen AUD transfer (patch for Drums).
Matrix by Hunter Seamons using Final Cut Pro (SHN & FLAC > AIFF > Final Cut w/EQ > AIFF CD tracking via Audacity > FLAC16 via xACT w/meta-tagging)
October 12, 2024
Set I
-----
d1t01 - Cold Rain And Snow
d1t02 - Minglewood Blues
d1t03 - Ramble On Rose
d1t04 - My Brother Esau
d1t05 - It Must Have Been The Roses
d1t06 - Cassidy >
d1t07 - Cumberland Blues
d1t08 - Looks Like Rain >
d1t09 - Might As Well
Set II
-----
d2t01 - Help On The Way >
d2t02 - Slipknot! >
d2t03 - Franklin's Tower
d2t04 - Women Are Smarter
d2t05 - He's Gone >
d2t06 - Drums >
d3t01 - Space >
d3t02 - Truckin' >
d3t03 - Black Peter >
d3t04 - Not Fade Away
Encore
------
d3t05 - Revolution*
*first time played
Notes:
The SBD cassette master source had some digital noise reduction applied (unlike 10/11/83, which had none, but this source still sounds pretty good). A subtle metallic tinkling sound can be heard at times during quieter parts of the recording, and there seems to be a slightly more brittle sound at times. From 4:47 in Drums to 10:18 in Space, this "DNR sound" becomes much more prominent and pretty distracting. To correct or help mask this issue, the matrix was mixed very AUD-heavy here, with the audience recording becoming the dominant source. At the beginning of Space, the DNR sound shifts exclusively to the left channel in the SBD. As an experiment, we restored the right channel of the matrix to its original SBD-heavy ratio at this point, while we maintained an AUD-heavy ratio in the left channel. The resulting "inverted" mix had a relatively balanced and pleasing sound - it accentuated Jerry's guitar more in the Garden. It seems the fact that Jerry's guitar and most of the other instruments are pretty centered-sounding in the SBD contributed to why this experimental mix worked the way it did.
The SBD source was pitch corrected faster (between 0.9% and 1.3%), while the AUD was pitch corrected a little slower (generally between -0.1% and -0.7%). The pitch corrected Rob Eaton recording was used as a reference in multiple areas in both sets. There's likely still a minimal margin of error but it's overall closer.
Some initial hot vocals in Cold Rain And Snow.
Some minor SBD level adjustments were made in the first set to maintain consistency.
Very light EQ was used for a few songs early in the first set. Then, the SBD source was more muffled sounding after about a minute into Cumberland Blues through the cut in Franklin's Tower, with the high end (treble) becoming noticeably lower. Compensatory EQ was applied for this entire section and was a significant improvement. No EQ was used after the Franklin's cut.
An unknown AUD source (possibly FOB Schoeps mk4), via Andy Gustin (shnid=345, 1/31/00), patches breaks between songs in the AUD, including brief cuts at the beginnings of Cumberland Blues, Looks Like Rain, Women Are Smarter and He's Gone. The tail end of He's Gone and most of Drums are patched as well. Rob Eaton and Mark Cohen's recordings patch 1:45 in Drums for the AUD track, transferred by Charlie Miller and Scott Clugston (shnid=167752, circulated 6/3/24).
Some moments of dead air in the SBD were trimmed out to match the AUD cuts, which were also cross-faded.
An unusually loud sound effect moment in Looks Like Rain was reduced.
2-second cuts in Help On The Way and Drums in the SBD are now patched. There's also a minuscule cut in Space that was patched.
length expanded size cdr WAVE problems fmt ratio filename
8:17.70 87835484 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6060 gd83-10-12d1t01.flac
9:27.19 100063532 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6491 gd83-10-12d1t02.flac
7:14.40 76651724 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6328 gd83-10-12d1t03.flac
5:21.51 56744396 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6293 gd83-10-12d1t04.flac
6:05.28 64451900 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6007 gd83-10-12d1t05.flac
6:07.25 64797644 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6577 gd83-10-12d1t06.flac
9:52.66 104584076 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6682 gd83-10-12d1t07.flac
8:30.55 90093404 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6404 gd83-10-12d1t08.flac
4:31.05 47816204 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.7094 gd83-10-12d1t09.flac
4:48.71 50970236 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6486 gd83-10-12d2t01.flac
9:24.24 99546092 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6647 gd83-10-12d2t02.flac
14:28.71 153282236 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6674 gd83-10-12d2t03.flac
7:15.29 76802252 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6796 gd83-10-12d2t04.flac
12:52.43 136281980 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6423 gd83-10-12d2t05.flac
10:15.14 108518972 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6248 gd83-10-12d2t06.flac
14:07.71 149577836 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5306 gd83-10-12d3t01.flac
7:51.46 83192636 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6715 gd83-10-12d3t02.flac
9:03.05 95797004 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6539 gd83-10-12d3t03.flac
9:34.46 101361836 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6424 gd83-10-12d3t04.flac
5:09.03 54514700 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6830 gd83-10-12d3t05.flac
170:20.32 1802884144 B 0.6404 (20 files)
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