Thunder & Lightning 08/04/1984
Chi Chi Club, San Francisco, CA
Source Summary
Source: Soundboard Cassettes (1st Gen) Transfer: Cassettes > Tascam 122 MkIII > ESI 24-bit USB Audio Interface > MAC pc > wav 24/96 Lineage: wav 24/96 > iZotope RX 11 Advanced > iZotope 11 Master Rebalance > iZotope RX 11 Advanced > wav 16/44.1 > Cd Wave > Flac 16 edited aND MASTERED sirmICK jULY 2025
Source: Soundboard Cassettes (1st Gen) Transfer: Cassettes > Tascam 122 MkIII > ESI 24-bit USB Audio Interface > MAC pc > wav 24/96 Lineage: wav 24/96 > iZotope RX 11 Advanced > iZotope 11 Master Rebalance > iZotope RX 11 Advanced > wav 16/44.1 > Cd Wave > Flac 16 edited aND MASTERED sirmICK jULY 2025
Ed Perlstein, who has archived collections by Nick Gravenites, Spencer Dryden, Steve Keyser (John Cipollina’s manager) and others, and who currently possesses John Cipollina’s personal tapes, was given the approval of John’s sister, Antonia, to share John’s live and studio outtake recordings in the interest of keeping his music alive for future generations. Steve Keyser, who recorded most of John's live shows with several different bands while he was his manager, has allowed Ed to digitize his master cassettes, and to share them with John’s fans and collectors.
Charlie Kaiser has recently given us access to his soundboard masters. He was the Front Of House soundman and recording engineer for virtually all of John's bands from about 1983 until his passing. This included Thunder and Lightning, Dinosaurs, Terry and The Pirates, Problem Child, and any of the spinoff bands.
Thunder and Lightning
Chi Chi Club,
San Francisco, CA.
08/04/1984
Source: Soundboard Cassettes (1st Gen)
Transfer: Cassettes > Tascam 122 MkIII > ESI 24-bit USB Audio Interface > MAC pc > wav 24/96
Lineage: wav 24/96 > iZotope RX 11 Advanced > iZotope 11 Master Rebalance > iZotope RX 11 Advanced > wav 16/44.1 > Cd Wave > Flac 16
Set I
01 tuning
02 Blues In My Bottle
03 Pride Of Man
04 Down In The Bottom
05 Trouble In Mind
06 Small Walk In Box
07 Four Floors Or Forty
08 Help Me
09 Six Weeks In Reno
10 Dekalb Blues
11 Nick's Highland Fling
Set II
12 Hollywood Baby
13 Run Outta West
14 On Top Of Old Smokey
15 Dancin' Fool
16 Going Back To Anna
17 Fantasy World
18 Ten Days Of Rain
19 Who Do You Love
20 Southside
21 You Can't Hurt Me No More
Set III
22 Tired Of Spending Money
23 Bad Luck Baby
24 I Did It For The Band
25 My Party
26 Herpes Blues
27 Left Hand Soul
28 banter
29 Buried Alive In The Blues
30 Good Night Irene
31 Momma Don't Allow Me
Nick Gravenites - guitar, vocals
John Cipollina - guitar, vocals
Doug Kilmer - bass, vocals
Greg Elmore - drums
Source provided by Steve Keyser
Transferred by Ed Perlstein
Pitch checked by Seth Kaplan
Files tagged by Mike Schuncke
Artwork by Bruno
Edited and mastered
SIRMick
July 2025
shntool output:
length expanded size cdr WAVE problems fmt ratio filename
0:31.16 5506076 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.4396 01 tuning.flac
5:52.10 62116364 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5158 02 Blues In My Bottle.flac
4:52.48 51621740 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5185 03 Pride Of Man.flac
6:06.28 64628300 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5186 04 Down In The Bottom.flac
6:38.62 70353068 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.4845 05 Trouble In Mind.flac
9:51.47 104362988 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.4860 06 Small Walk In Box.flac
5:08.48 54444140 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5212 07 Four Floors Or Forty.flac
5:17.67 56076428 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5156 08 Help Me.flac
5:07.68 54314780 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5154 09 Six Weeks In Reno.flac
4:46.28 50516300 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5137 10 Dekalb Blues.flac
10:37.00 112366844 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5098 11 Nick's Highland Fling.flac
2:41.40 28494524 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.4883 12 Hollywood Baby.flac
6:44.45 71371484 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5345 13 Run Outta West.flac
6:09.45 65197484 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5291 14 On Top Of Old Smokey.flac
5:06.09 53999612 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5575 15 Dancin' Fool.flac
7:35.14 80294972 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5541 16 Going Back To Anna.flac
4:43.63 50069420 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5747 17 Fantasy World.flac
3:19.42 35202428 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5741 18 Ten Days Of Rain.flac
9:29.34 100451612 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5370 19 Who Do You Love.flac
3:21.58 35592860 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5478 20 Southside.flac
4:30.34 47708012 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5452 21 You Can't Hurt Me No More.flac
2:59.43 31676780 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5390 22 Tired Of Spending Money.flac
8:45.18 92652380 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5416 23 Bad Luck Baby.flac
5:50.24 61796492 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5526 24 I Did It For The Band.flac
6:02.69 64019132 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5242 25 My Party.flac
2:25.50 25695644 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5280 26 Herpes Blues.flac
9:13.51 97669196 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5307 27 Left Hand Soul.flac
1:40.42 17738828 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.4830 28 banter.flac
6:19.59 66994412 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5484 29 Buried Alive In The Blues.flac
3:34.27 37813148 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5031 30 Good Night Irene.flac
3:40.28 38873900 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5522 31 Momma Don't Allow Me.flac
169:05.17 1789619348 B 0.5274 (31 files)
flac fingerprints:
01 tuning.flac:ea229f41cbc6a9ed3a4bb8ea77cdd014
02 Blues In My Bottle.flac:7b9bbd94af961baecb98969288197e93
03 Pride Of Man.flac:c8530dd9b35032837ac4aa4a57f358af
04 Down In The Bottom.flac:e1292606944606c2d0ab2ac41781263f
05 Trouble In Mind.flac:ce14718a36f3c4e6129fca1991a38022
06 Small Walk In Box.flac:b4b7796ec6f87e5f6af412ac6720782c
07 Four Floors Or Forty.flac:f7f33676a1e137baf7bbe13a24ac70ea
08 Help Me.flac:c72a1f70dae8f62994e126b5f6c348d1
09 Six Weeks In Reno.flac:05fd5f95a4fd4ea396171b72eca969d0
10 Dekalb Blues.flac:487a0d6a1606cc1aa37c96211430124b
11 Nick's Highland Fling.flac:2ecac19d6037a9f2abc45c912dd22a27
12 Hollywood Baby.flac:88d445e66de5629513ae16ca70f7cb94
13 Run Outta West.flac:6442f8430aeb275142a3582510c474c6
14 On Top Of Old Smokey.flac:63d853eeffda3dcdd3493d30db9fe7ed
15 Dancin' Fool.flac:f2d38a8964107966d2c80637e7f0f3d4
16 Going Back To Anna.flac:e5b2038e54a54446e935feebc49ada55
17 Fantasy World.flac:1611bd1a069c64bd2a682b2df875d6c1
18 Ten Days Of Rain.flac:f4b6023dc2e5033e920c6fb45d185790
19 Who Do You Love.flac:a5838439cc2f018a72b07f0a0d8bfc8c
20 Southside.flac:0fa84b73c2d0affad6d49af01d7febd3
21 You Can't Hurt Me No More.flac:6b0e60c8a771cfcdc6d6cb19e1561459
22 Tired Of Spending Money.flac:045efa7424211dd2ada058c2b24c8380
23 Bad Luck Baby.flac:86f4af8fd2b500d4bbacfaa63d520a63
24 I Did It For The Band.flac:44d6ccb645c71896c4ef98a029325a6f
25 My Party.flac:afa57a92a74702f14a082838369cf8dd
26 Herpes Blues.flac:55f2030ee857391afdfdccc206eade69
27 Left Hand Soul.flac:3fcf2e40dbe342447818c899eaee312c
28 banter.flac:406d15f70540b7039e4d122cffac6ff9
29 Buried Alive In The Blues.flac:173e751298d0cfed654a6b6d4ca58bf3
30 Good Night Irene.flac:6d4c64ff869d763b2c253940855737e6
31 Momma Don't Allow Me.flac:a0dcdec857a6be8a0186f7974a194bef
Charlie Kaiser has recently given us access to his soundboard masters. He was the Front Of House soundman and recording engineer for virtually all of John's bands from about 1983 until his passing. This included Thunder and Lightning, Dinosaurs, Terry and The Pirates, Problem Child, and any of the spinoff bands.
Thunder and Lightning
Chi Chi Club,
San Francisco, CA.
08/04/1984
Source: Soundboard Cassettes (1st Gen)
Transfer: Cassettes > Tascam 122 MkIII > ESI 24-bit USB Audio Interface > MAC pc > wav 24/96
Lineage: wav 24/96 > iZotope RX 11 Advanced > iZotope 11 Master Rebalance > iZotope RX 11 Advanced > wav 16/44.1 > Cd Wave > Flac 16
Set I
01 tuning
02 Blues In My Bottle
03 Pride Of Man
04 Down In The Bottom
05 Trouble In Mind
06 Small Walk In Box
07 Four Floors Or Forty
08 Help Me
09 Six Weeks In Reno
10 Dekalb Blues
11 Nick's Highland Fling
Set II
12 Hollywood Baby
13 Run Outta West
14 On Top Of Old Smokey
15 Dancin' Fool
16 Going Back To Anna
17 Fantasy World
18 Ten Days Of Rain
19 Who Do You Love
20 Southside
21 You Can't Hurt Me No More
Set III
22 Tired Of Spending Money
23 Bad Luck Baby
24 I Did It For The Band
25 My Party
26 Herpes Blues
27 Left Hand Soul
28 banter
29 Buried Alive In The Blues
30 Good Night Irene
31 Momma Don't Allow Me
Nick Gravenites - guitar, vocals
John Cipollina - guitar, vocals
Doug Kilmer - bass, vocals
Greg Elmore - drums
Source provided by Steve Keyser
Transferred by Ed Perlstein
Pitch checked by Seth Kaplan
Files tagged by Mike Schuncke
Artwork by Bruno
Edited and mastered
SIRMick
July 2025
shntool output:
length expanded size cdr WAVE problems fmt ratio filename
0:31.16 5506076 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.4396 01 tuning.flac
5:52.10 62116364 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5158 02 Blues In My Bottle.flac
4:52.48 51621740 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5185 03 Pride Of Man.flac
6:06.28 64628300 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5186 04 Down In The Bottom.flac
6:38.62 70353068 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.4845 05 Trouble In Mind.flac
9:51.47 104362988 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.4860 06 Small Walk In Box.flac
5:08.48 54444140 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5212 07 Four Floors Or Forty.flac
5:17.67 56076428 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5156 08 Help Me.flac
5:07.68 54314780 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5154 09 Six Weeks In Reno.flac
4:46.28 50516300 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5137 10 Dekalb Blues.flac
10:37.00 112366844 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5098 11 Nick's Highland Fling.flac
2:41.40 28494524 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.4883 12 Hollywood Baby.flac
6:44.45 71371484 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5345 13 Run Outta West.flac
6:09.45 65197484 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5291 14 On Top Of Old Smokey.flac
5:06.09 53999612 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5575 15 Dancin' Fool.flac
7:35.14 80294972 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5541 16 Going Back To Anna.flac
4:43.63 50069420 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5747 17 Fantasy World.flac
3:19.42 35202428 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5741 18 Ten Days Of Rain.flac
9:29.34 100451612 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5370 19 Who Do You Love.flac
3:21.58 35592860 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5478 20 Southside.flac
4:30.34 47708012 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5452 21 You Can't Hurt Me No More.flac
2:59.43 31676780 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5390 22 Tired Of Spending Money.flac
8:45.18 92652380 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5416 23 Bad Luck Baby.flac
5:50.24 61796492 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5526 24 I Did It For The Band.flac
6:02.69 64019132 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5242 25 My Party.flac
2:25.50 25695644 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5280 26 Herpes Blues.flac
9:13.51 97669196 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5307 27 Left Hand Soul.flac
1:40.42 17738828 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.4830 28 banter.flac
6:19.59 66994412 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5484 29 Buried Alive In The Blues.flac
3:34.27 37813148 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5031 30 Good Night Irene.flac
3:40.28 38873900 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5522 31 Momma Don't Allow Me.flac
169:05.17 1789619348 B 0.5274 (31 files)
flac fingerprints:
01 tuning.flac:ea229f41cbc6a9ed3a4bb8ea77cdd014
02 Blues In My Bottle.flac:7b9bbd94af961baecb98969288197e93
03 Pride Of Man.flac:c8530dd9b35032837ac4aa4a57f358af
04 Down In The Bottom.flac:e1292606944606c2d0ab2ac41781263f
05 Trouble In Mind.flac:ce14718a36f3c4e6129fca1991a38022
06 Small Walk In Box.flac:b4b7796ec6f87e5f6af412ac6720782c
07 Four Floors Or Forty.flac:f7f33676a1e137baf7bbe13a24ac70ea
08 Help Me.flac:c72a1f70dae8f62994e126b5f6c348d1
09 Six Weeks In Reno.flac:05fd5f95a4fd4ea396171b72eca969d0
10 Dekalb Blues.flac:487a0d6a1606cc1aa37c96211430124b
11 Nick's Highland Fling.flac:2ecac19d6037a9f2abc45c912dd22a27
12 Hollywood Baby.flac:88d445e66de5629513ae16ca70f7cb94
13 Run Outta West.flac:6442f8430aeb275142a3582510c474c6
14 On Top Of Old Smokey.flac:63d853eeffda3dcdd3493d30db9fe7ed
15 Dancin' Fool.flac:f2d38a8964107966d2c80637e7f0f3d4
16 Going Back To Anna.flac:e5b2038e54a54446e935feebc49ada55
17 Fantasy World.flac:1611bd1a069c64bd2a682b2df875d6c1
18 Ten Days Of Rain.flac:f4b6023dc2e5033e920c6fb45d185790
19 Who Do You Love.flac:a5838439cc2f018a72b07f0a0d8bfc8c
20 Southside.flac:0fa84b73c2d0affad6d49af01d7febd3
21 You Can't Hurt Me No More.flac:6b0e60c8a771cfcdc6d6cb19e1561459
22 Tired Of Spending Money.flac:045efa7424211dd2ada058c2b24c8380
23 Bad Luck Baby.flac:86f4af8fd2b500d4bbacfaa63d520a63
24 I Did It For The Band.flac:44d6ccb645c71896c4ef98a029325a6f
25 My Party.flac:afa57a92a74702f14a082838369cf8dd
26 Herpes Blues.flac:55f2030ee857391afdfdccc206eade69
27 Left Hand Soul.flac:3fcf2e40dbe342447818c899eaee312c
28 banter.flac:406d15f70540b7039e4d122cffac6ff9
29 Buried Alive In The Blues.flac:173e751298d0cfed654a6b6d4ca58bf3
30 Good Night Irene.flac:6d4c64ff869d763b2c253940855737e6
31 Momma Don't Allow Me.flac:a0dcdec857a6be8a0186f7974a194bef
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