Thunder & Lightning 08/04/1984
Chi Chi Club, San Francisco, CA
Source Summary
flac24: Soundboard Cassettes (1st Gen) Transfer: Cassettes > Tascam 122 MkIII > ESI 24-bit USB Audio Interface > MAC pc > wav 24/96 Lineage: wav 24/96 > iZotope RX 11 Advanced > iZotope 11 Master Rebalance > Cd Wave > Flac 24 edited and mastered SIRMick July 2025
flac24: Soundboard Cassettes (1st Gen) Transfer: Cassettes > Tascam 122 MkIII > ESI 24-bit USB Audio Interface > MAC pc > wav 24/96 Lineage: wav 24/96 > iZotope RX 11 Advanced > iZotope 11 Master Rebalance > Cd Wave > Flac 24 edited and mastered SIRMick July 2025
Ed Perlstein, who has archived collections by Nick Gravenites, Spencer Dryden, Steve Keyser (John Cipollina’s manager) and others, and who currently possesses John Cipollina’s personal tapes, was given the approval of John’s sister, Antonia, to share John’s live and studio outtake recordings in the interest of keeping his music alive for future generations. Steve Keyser, who recorded most of John's live shows with several different bands while he was his manager, has allowed Ed to digitize his master cassettes, and to share them with John’s fans and collectors.
Charlie Kaiser has recently given us access to his soundboard masters. He was the Front Of House soundman and recording engineer for virtually all of John's bands from about 1983 until his passing. This included Thunder and Lightning, Dinosaurs, Terry and The Pirates, Problem Child, and any of the spinoff bands.
Thunder and Lightning
Chi Chi Club,
San Francisco, CA.
08/04/1984
Source: Soundboard Cassettes (1st Gen)
Transfer: Cassettes > Tascam 122 MkIII > ESI 24-bit USB Audio Interface > MAC pc > wav 24/96
Lineage: wav 24/96 > iZotope RX 11 Advanced > iZotope 11 Master Rebalance > Cd Wave > Flac 24
Set I
01 tuning
02 Blues In My Bottle
03 Pride Of Man
04 Down In The Bottom
05 Trouble In Mind
06 Small Walk In Box
07 Four Floors Or Forty
08 Help Me
09 Six Weeks In Reno
10 Dekalb Blues
11 Nick's Highland Fling
Set II
12 Hollywood Baby
13 Run Outta West
14 On Top Of Old Smokey
15 Dancin' Fool
16 Going Back To Anna
17 Fantasy World
18 Ten Days Of Rain
19 Who Do You Love
20 Southside
21 You Can't Hurt Me No More
Set III
22 Tired Of Spending Money
23 Bad Luck Baby
24 I Did It For The Band
25 My Party
26 Herpes Blues
27 Left Hand Soul
28 banter
29 Buried Alive In The Blues
30 Good Night Irene
31 Momma Don't Allow Me
Nick Gravenites - guitar, vocals
John Cipollina - guitar, vocals
Doug Kilmer - bass, vocals
Greg Elmore - drums
Source provided by Steve Keyser
Transferred by Ed Perlstein
Pitch checked by Seth Kaplan
Files tagged by Mike Schuncke
Artwork by Bruno
Edited and mastered
SIRMick
July 2025
shntool output:
length expanded size cdr WAVE problems fmt ratio filename
0:31.213 17978924 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.4666 01 tuning.flac
5:52.133 202828844 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5195 02 Blues In My Bottle.flac
4:52.640 168560684 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5162 03 Pride Of Man.flac
6:06.373 211031084 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5192 04 Down In The Bottom.flac
6:38.827 229724204 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.4951 05 Trouble In Mind.flac
9:51.627 340777004 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5008 06 Small Walk In Box.flac
5:08.640 177776684 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5189 07 Four Floors Or Forty.flac
5:17.893 183106604 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5167 08 Help Me.flac
5:07.907 177354284 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5115 09 Six Weeks In Reno.flac
4:46.373 164951084 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5142 10 Dekalb Blues.flac
10:37.000 366912044 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5053 11 Nick's Highland Fling.flac
2:41.533 93043244 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.4953 12 Hollywood Baby.flac
6:44.600 233049644 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5268 13 Run Outta West.flac
6:09.600 212889644 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5198 14 On Top Of Old Smokey.flac
5:06.120 176325164 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5400 15 Dancin' Fool.flac
7:35.187 262187564 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5370 16 Going Back To Anna.flac
4:43.840 163491884 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5511 17 Fantasy World.flac
3:19.560 114946604 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5481 18 Ten Days Of Rain.flac
9:29.453 328005164 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5219 19 Who Do You Love.flac
3:21.773 116221484 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5327 20 Southside.flac
4:30.453 155781164 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5332 21 You Can't Hurt Me No More.flac
2:59.573 103434284 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5275 22 Tired Of Spending Money.flac
8:45.240 302538284 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5301 23 Bad Luck Baby.flac
5:50.320 201784364 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5397 24 I Did It For The Band.flac
6:02.920 209041964 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5245 25 My Party.flac
2:25.667 83904044 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5232 26 Herpes Blues.flac
9:13.680 318919724 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5262 27 Left Hand Soul.flac
1:40.560 57922604 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.4801 28 banter.flac
6:19.787 218757164 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5380 29 Buried Alive In The Blues.flac
3:34.360 123471404 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5117 30 Good Night Irene.flac
3:40.373 126935084 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5416 31 Momma Don't Allow Me.flac
169:05.227 5843651924 B 0.5219 (31 files)
flac fingerprints:
01 tuning.flac:82ac2c023dd054e21d2bb6040f9f4759
02 Blues In My Bottle.flac:19f2e28bf12ae5a9de69ce11450dbf58
03 Pride Of Man.flac:10049a7ed05455b2b91fec55525cce75
04 Down In The Bottom.flac:a13b76ce05d58d7ed524ecdfda9872df
05 Trouble In Mind.flac:0d7ead2e89cd470a80b8fb0dbcf4bd62
06 Small Walk In Box.flac:60b38e119e84d2d2cd7cf42d327a5dd4
07 Four Floors Or Forty.flac:6c0d95275eb596043ebb422d7e7e345d
08 Help Me.flac:00f8681b02ca1dea62e6b64574e1abe5
09 Six Weeks In Reno.flac:2a7c3c76e9d44a8ff5ed2b351cd3b6f7
10 Dekalb Blues.flac:153a8f01a52bab83282b22162eeb91ba
11 Nick's Highland Fling.flac:a9c618ffa9238438bf726d3dc92bb4dc
12 Hollywood Baby.flac:394c924ee98d2918c0584bb2b13dfb5e
13 Run Outta West.flac:bb9a4a24334dfa30ecd0925d2a18c3d4
14 On Top Of Old Smokey.flac:48229c79377b460cdc2e9decc9f3f56c
15 Dancin' Fool.flac:7fc9ccefc2257f8fda16e71dd39a9be0
16 Going Back To Anna.flac:ce170e5cdceea44331ab3e7a9c78717e
17 Fantasy World.flac:c4ef48629f3dd8047270a65d3ce35a53
18 Ten Days Of Rain.flac:ae8164d4c6385450487d12269a8a431a
19 Who Do You Love.flac:57ae426ff65b28764ec72c9e946d4ef4
20 Southside.flac:093a8cc04569b5e6910881c3c0384742
21 You Can't Hurt Me No More.flac:f56d9ca7267693a216c10ee651eb4fa3
22 Tired Of Spending Money.flac:7e467037ad7c9a620cba9199bf94a4dd
23 Bad Luck Baby.flac:87d3bba6a6f6fe5876dd05139f68c86c
24 I Did It For The Band.flac:27fe687504f8a1598abb605882ebf87f
25 My Party.flac:442b98aa10d4ac45f8cc74f5d072bb6c
26 Herpes Blues.flac:375cdd8ef9162fbf01074051d1b74af7
27 Left Hand Soul.flac:83951e0b82ed30599d1e67c898e35c55
28 banter.flac:7e50a83ab4365d24be6fc08d1445b666
29 Buried Alive In The Blues.flac:f57d79800abfb3cfa031aeeb0b6b3949
30 Good Night Irene.flac:584e5557f445af6d23b87e708ee8b314
31 Momma Don't Allow Me.flac:2d3acda5e5eecefefdecbceb1f48db09
Charlie Kaiser has recently given us access to his soundboard masters. He was the Front Of House soundman and recording engineer for virtually all of John's bands from about 1983 until his passing. This included Thunder and Lightning, Dinosaurs, Terry and The Pirates, Problem Child, and any of the spinoff bands.
Thunder and Lightning
Chi Chi Club,
San Francisco, CA.
08/04/1984
Source: Soundboard Cassettes (1st Gen)
Transfer: Cassettes > Tascam 122 MkIII > ESI 24-bit USB Audio Interface > MAC pc > wav 24/96
Lineage: wav 24/96 > iZotope RX 11 Advanced > iZotope 11 Master Rebalance > Cd Wave > Flac 24
Set I
01 tuning
02 Blues In My Bottle
03 Pride Of Man
04 Down In The Bottom
05 Trouble In Mind
06 Small Walk In Box
07 Four Floors Or Forty
08 Help Me
09 Six Weeks In Reno
10 Dekalb Blues
11 Nick's Highland Fling
Set II
12 Hollywood Baby
13 Run Outta West
14 On Top Of Old Smokey
15 Dancin' Fool
16 Going Back To Anna
17 Fantasy World
18 Ten Days Of Rain
19 Who Do You Love
20 Southside
21 You Can't Hurt Me No More
Set III
22 Tired Of Spending Money
23 Bad Luck Baby
24 I Did It For The Band
25 My Party
26 Herpes Blues
27 Left Hand Soul
28 banter
29 Buried Alive In The Blues
30 Good Night Irene
31 Momma Don't Allow Me
Nick Gravenites - guitar, vocals
John Cipollina - guitar, vocals
Doug Kilmer - bass, vocals
Greg Elmore - drums
Source provided by Steve Keyser
Transferred by Ed Perlstein
Pitch checked by Seth Kaplan
Files tagged by Mike Schuncke
Artwork by Bruno
Edited and mastered
SIRMick
July 2025
shntool output:
length expanded size cdr WAVE problems fmt ratio filename
0:31.213 17978924 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.4666 01 tuning.flac
5:52.133 202828844 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5195 02 Blues In My Bottle.flac
4:52.640 168560684 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5162 03 Pride Of Man.flac
6:06.373 211031084 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5192 04 Down In The Bottom.flac
6:38.827 229724204 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.4951 05 Trouble In Mind.flac
9:51.627 340777004 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5008 06 Small Walk In Box.flac
5:08.640 177776684 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5189 07 Four Floors Or Forty.flac
5:17.893 183106604 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5167 08 Help Me.flac
5:07.907 177354284 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5115 09 Six Weeks In Reno.flac
4:46.373 164951084 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5142 10 Dekalb Blues.flac
10:37.000 366912044 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5053 11 Nick's Highland Fling.flac
2:41.533 93043244 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.4953 12 Hollywood Baby.flac
6:44.600 233049644 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5268 13 Run Outta West.flac
6:09.600 212889644 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5198 14 On Top Of Old Smokey.flac
5:06.120 176325164 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5400 15 Dancin' Fool.flac
7:35.187 262187564 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5370 16 Going Back To Anna.flac
4:43.840 163491884 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5511 17 Fantasy World.flac
3:19.560 114946604 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5481 18 Ten Days Of Rain.flac
9:29.453 328005164 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5219 19 Who Do You Love.flac
3:21.773 116221484 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5327 20 Southside.flac
4:30.453 155781164 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5332 21 You Can't Hurt Me No More.flac
2:59.573 103434284 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5275 22 Tired Of Spending Money.flac
8:45.240 302538284 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5301 23 Bad Luck Baby.flac
5:50.320 201784364 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5397 24 I Did It For The Band.flac
6:02.920 209041964 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5245 25 My Party.flac
2:25.667 83904044 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5232 26 Herpes Blues.flac
9:13.680 318919724 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5262 27 Left Hand Soul.flac
1:40.560 57922604 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.4801 28 banter.flac
6:19.787 218757164 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5380 29 Buried Alive In The Blues.flac
3:34.360 123471404 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5117 30 Good Night Irene.flac
3:40.373 126935084 B cxx -- ---xx flac 0.5416 31 Momma Don't Allow Me.flac
169:05.227 5843651924 B 0.5219 (31 files)
flac fingerprints:
01 tuning.flac:82ac2c023dd054e21d2bb6040f9f4759
02 Blues In My Bottle.flac:19f2e28bf12ae5a9de69ce11450dbf58
03 Pride Of Man.flac:10049a7ed05455b2b91fec55525cce75
04 Down In The Bottom.flac:a13b76ce05d58d7ed524ecdfda9872df
05 Trouble In Mind.flac:0d7ead2e89cd470a80b8fb0dbcf4bd62
06 Small Walk In Box.flac:60b38e119e84d2d2cd7cf42d327a5dd4
07 Four Floors Or Forty.flac:6c0d95275eb596043ebb422d7e7e345d
08 Help Me.flac:00f8681b02ca1dea62e6b64574e1abe5
09 Six Weeks In Reno.flac:2a7c3c76e9d44a8ff5ed2b351cd3b6f7
10 Dekalb Blues.flac:153a8f01a52bab83282b22162eeb91ba
11 Nick's Highland Fling.flac:a9c618ffa9238438bf726d3dc92bb4dc
12 Hollywood Baby.flac:394c924ee98d2918c0584bb2b13dfb5e
13 Run Outta West.flac:bb9a4a24334dfa30ecd0925d2a18c3d4
14 On Top Of Old Smokey.flac:48229c79377b460cdc2e9decc9f3f56c
15 Dancin' Fool.flac:7fc9ccefc2257f8fda16e71dd39a9be0
16 Going Back To Anna.flac:ce170e5cdceea44331ab3e7a9c78717e
17 Fantasy World.flac:c4ef48629f3dd8047270a65d3ce35a53
18 Ten Days Of Rain.flac:ae8164d4c6385450487d12269a8a431a
19 Who Do You Love.flac:57ae426ff65b28764ec72c9e946d4ef4
20 Southside.flac:093a8cc04569b5e6910881c3c0384742
21 You Can't Hurt Me No More.flac:f56d9ca7267693a216c10ee651eb4fa3
22 Tired Of Spending Money.flac:7e467037ad7c9a620cba9199bf94a4dd
23 Bad Luck Baby.flac:87d3bba6a6f6fe5876dd05139f68c86c
24 I Did It For The Band.flac:27fe687504f8a1598abb605882ebf87f
25 My Party.flac:442b98aa10d4ac45f8cc74f5d072bb6c
26 Herpes Blues.flac:375cdd8ef9162fbf01074051d1b74af7
27 Left Hand Soul.flac:83951e0b82ed30599d1e67c898e35c55
28 banter.flac:7e50a83ab4365d24be6fc08d1445b666
29 Buried Alive In The Blues.flac:f57d79800abfb3cfa031aeeb0b6b3949
30 Good Night Irene.flac:584e5557f445af6d23b87e708ee8b314
31 Momma Don't Allow Me.flac:2d3acda5e5eecefefdecbceb1f48db09
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