Grateful Dead 06/16/1974
Des Moines State Fair Grandstand, Des Moines, IA
Source Summary
S : MR > DAT > CDR > EAC > SHN; Editing by Alan J Fink; See info file for details; Note- This shn set was submitted by Alan Fink himself
S : MR > DAT > CDR > EAC > SHN; Editing by Alan J Fink; See info file for details; Note- This shn set was submitted by Alan Fink himself
Other Sources
SHNID 207 SBD (could be MR> C> D); complete version via...
SHNID 15781 S : MR > DAT > CDR > EAC > SHN; Editing by Alan...
SHNID 26452 mixed SBD sources: Set 1: MSR> C> DAT> CD Set 2...
SHNID 136659 flac24 ; source: aud cassette master; taped by...
SHNID 136660 flac16 ; source: aud cassette master; taped by...
SHNID 136706 flac16 ; Matrix 2 Source Mix - SBD...
SHNID 136707 DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Mix ; SBD (shnid=17701) S :...
SHNID 136709 flac16/48kHz ; 5.1 LPCM Surround Sound (48k) -...
SHNID 143135 flac16 ; Partial Show Source: SBD > MR > Dat...
Grateful Dead
6/16/74
Des Moines State Fair Grandstand
Des Moines, IA
S : MR > DAT > CDR > EAC > SHN
Disc 1:
Set I
-----
1. Bertha
2. Mexicali Blues
3. Row Jimmy
4. Beat It On Down The Line
5. Scarlet Begonias
6. Black Throated Wind
7. Sugaree
8. El Paso
9. It Must Have Been The Roses
10. Jack Straw
Disc 2:
1. China Cat->
2. I Know You Rider
3. Around
Set II
------
4. U.S. Blues
5. The Race is On
6. Eyes Of The World->
7. Big River
Disc 3:
1. Playin' In The Band
Set III
-------
2. Tennessee Jed
3. Me & My Uncle
4. Deal
5. Greatest Story Ever Told
6. Ship Of Fools
Disc 4:
1. Truckin'->
2. Nobody's Jam->
3. Wharf Rat->
4. Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad
5. E: Casey Jones
Original Notes:
d1t01 Bertha- splice @ 4:04; serious mix problems prior to this
d1t07 Sugaree- MR flip @ 3:59
d3t01 Playin'- d/o @0:01, d/o @3:16
d3t02 T.Jed- <1 sec. digi-noise @0:02
d4t03 W.Rat- MR flip @2:50
Original SHNs, http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=9506,
via Robert Naylor, Popi, not seekable
====================
March 9th, 2003
Editing by Alan J Fink "aj.fink@verizon.net" using Cool Edit Pro
d2t04 U.S. Blues- 0:00 - 0:21 patched with SBD : ? > C
d3t01 Playin'- 0:00 - 0:13, 3:25 mix patched with SBD : ? > C
d3t02 T. Jed- < 1 sec. digi-noise @0:02 mix patched with SBD : ? > C
New SHNs created by Alan J Fink (aj.fink@verizon.net) MKW.
Sector boundaries verified via shntool.
====================
April 1-5, 2003 CoolEditPro 2.0 steve windsor (stephenr@snet.net)
Manual detection and correction only.
D1T1 Bertha Removed Pops at 4:05.344, 4:05.431; splice remains
D1T3 Row Jimmy Reduced Pops at 0:17.084, 0:19.873
D1T5 Scarlett Removed Pops at 0:13.(951, 970, 975), 2:00.225
D1T6 BTW Reduced Pop at 0:10.006
D1T7 Sugaree Reduced Pops at 0:22.302, 0:35.(310, 319)
Copied right channel to partial missing left channel at 0:36.110 for 0.040.
D1T8 El Paso Removed pop at 2:44.214; smoothed out remaining pop
Removed pop at 3:15.841 for 0.030
Reduced pop at 3:12.884 for 0.025
Removed pop at 3:20.156 for 0.054
Removed pop at 3:21.197 for 0.030
Note these last 4 were horrendous; no music or anything
remotely important was removed. The same type of pops existed
in Sugaree, but were not removed in order to preserve continuity.
D1T9 Roses Bad Pop around 0:13.553, but much more so in the left channel than right;
copied the right to left channel from 0:13.451 for 0.260,
then removed pop at 0:13.553.
Bad Pop around 0:16.514, but much more so in the left channel than right;
copied the right to left channel from 0:16.464 for 0.125,
then removed pop at 0:16.514.
Removed pop at 1:02.905
D1T10 Jack Straw Removed pops at 2:46.112, 4:06.648, 4:12.084, 5:11.237
D2T1 China Cat Removed pop at 7:31.743
Copied Right to Left channel at 7:22.177 for 0.148, then removed pop at 7:22.222;
some wierd sound persists in the left channel
D2T6 Eyes Removed dual crackles at 7:22.400
Removed pops at 10:53.766, 10:58.919, 12:29.013(R), 12:32.878,
14:07.574 (confirmed not music; it's off beat), 15:56.229, 16:18.350, 17:37.464
Digital noise in right channel @ 14:07.890; copied no-noise left channel to
right channel from 14:07.865 for 0.200.
D2T7 Big River Removed pops at 4:29.784, 4:34.691
D3T1. Playin' Removed pop at 6:14.904
D3T4. Deal Removed pops at 3:06.424(R), 3:08.831, 3:10.461
D3T5. Greatest Removed pops at 0:21.914, 0:22.147, 0:23.266(R), 0:39.644, 0:50.171,
Wierd left then right channel noise. Copied right to left 3:34.328 for 0.035
then left to right 3:34.364 for 0.033. Smoothed remainder at 3:34.361.
Removed noises at 4:51.081 for 0.021, 4:56.880 for 0.018.
D3T6. Ship Dropout at 0:39.639 for 0.892. No action taken.
Dropout in left channel at 1:22.015 for 0.022; since right channel was better,
copied right channel to left channel 1:22.004 for 0.050. Slight warble remains.
D4T1. Truckin' Removed pop at 4:38.612
D4T2. Nobody's Removed pops at 0:0.052, 0:25.533, 2:25.243, 3:20.522, 8:51.835,
8:57.577, 11:06.545, 11:34.349, 12:10.636.
D4T4. Goin' Down Removed pops at 1:00.378, 6:17.059, 6:59.405, 7:00.447
D4T5. Casey Jones Dropout in left channel at 0:4.489. Digital noise in different channels
Copied right channel from 0:4.05
6/16/74
Des Moines State Fair Grandstand
Des Moines, IA
S : MR > DAT > CDR > EAC > SHN
Disc 1:
Set I
-----
1. Bertha
2. Mexicali Blues
3. Row Jimmy
4. Beat It On Down The Line
5. Scarlet Begonias
6. Black Throated Wind
7. Sugaree
8. El Paso
9. It Must Have Been The Roses
10. Jack Straw
Disc 2:
1. China Cat->
2. I Know You Rider
3. Around
Set II
------
4. U.S. Blues
5. The Race is On
6. Eyes Of The World->
7. Big River
Disc 3:
1. Playin' In The Band
Set III
-------
2. Tennessee Jed
3. Me & My Uncle
4. Deal
5. Greatest Story Ever Told
6. Ship Of Fools
Disc 4:
1. Truckin'->
2. Nobody's Jam->
3. Wharf Rat->
4. Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad
5. E: Casey Jones
Original Notes:
d1t01 Bertha- splice @ 4:04; serious mix problems prior to this
d1t07 Sugaree- MR flip @ 3:59
d3t01 Playin'- d/o @0:01, d/o @3:16
d3t02 T.Jed- <1 sec. digi-noise @0:02
d4t03 W.Rat- MR flip @2:50
Original SHNs, http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=9506,
via Robert Naylor, Popi, not seekable
====================
March 9th, 2003
Editing by Alan J Fink "aj.fink@verizon.net" using Cool Edit Pro
d2t04 U.S. Blues- 0:00 - 0:21 patched with SBD : ? > C
d3t01 Playin'- 0:00 - 0:13, 3:25 mix patched with SBD : ? > C
d3t02 T. Jed- < 1 sec. digi-noise @0:02 mix patched with SBD : ? > C
New SHNs created by Alan J Fink (aj.fink@verizon.net) MKW.
Sector boundaries verified via shntool.
====================
April 1-5, 2003 CoolEditPro 2.0 steve windsor (stephenr@snet.net)
Manual detection and correction only.
D1T1 Bertha Removed Pops at 4:05.344, 4:05.431; splice remains
D1T3 Row Jimmy Reduced Pops at 0:17.084, 0:19.873
D1T5 Scarlett Removed Pops at 0:13.(951, 970, 975), 2:00.225
D1T6 BTW Reduced Pop at 0:10.006
D1T7 Sugaree Reduced Pops at 0:22.302, 0:35.(310, 319)
Copied right channel to partial missing left channel at 0:36.110 for 0.040.
D1T8 El Paso Removed pop at 2:44.214; smoothed out remaining pop
Removed pop at 3:15.841 for 0.030
Reduced pop at 3:12.884 for 0.025
Removed pop at 3:20.156 for 0.054
Removed pop at 3:21.197 for 0.030
Note these last 4 were horrendous; no music or anything
remotely important was removed. The same type of pops existed
in Sugaree, but were not removed in order to preserve continuity.
D1T9 Roses Bad Pop around 0:13.553, but much more so in the left channel than right;
copied the right to left channel from 0:13.451 for 0.260,
then removed pop at 0:13.553.
Bad Pop around 0:16.514, but much more so in the left channel than right;
copied the right to left channel from 0:16.464 for 0.125,
then removed pop at 0:16.514.
Removed pop at 1:02.905
D1T10 Jack Straw Removed pops at 2:46.112, 4:06.648, 4:12.084, 5:11.237
D2T1 China Cat Removed pop at 7:31.743
Copied Right to Left channel at 7:22.177 for 0.148, then removed pop at 7:22.222;
some wierd sound persists in the left channel
D2T6 Eyes Removed dual crackles at 7:22.400
Removed pops at 10:53.766, 10:58.919, 12:29.013(R), 12:32.878,
14:07.574 (confirmed not music; it's off beat), 15:56.229, 16:18.350, 17:37.464
Digital noise in right channel @ 14:07.890; copied no-noise left channel to
right channel from 14:07.865 for 0.200.
D2T7 Big River Removed pops at 4:29.784, 4:34.691
D3T1. Playin' Removed pop at 6:14.904
D3T4. Deal Removed pops at 3:06.424(R), 3:08.831, 3:10.461
D3T5. Greatest Removed pops at 0:21.914, 0:22.147, 0:23.266(R), 0:39.644, 0:50.171,
Wierd left then right channel noise. Copied right to left 3:34.328 for 0.035
then left to right 3:34.364 for 0.033. Smoothed remainder at 3:34.361.
Removed noises at 4:51.081 for 0.021, 4:56.880 for 0.018.
D3T6. Ship Dropout at 0:39.639 for 0.892. No action taken.
Dropout in left channel at 1:22.015 for 0.022; since right channel was better,
copied right channel to left channel 1:22.004 for 0.050. Slight warble remains.
D4T1. Truckin' Removed pop at 4:38.612
D4T2. Nobody's Removed pops at 0:0.052, 0:25.533, 2:25.243, 3:20.522, 8:51.835,
8:57.577, 11:06.545, 11:34.349, 12:10.636.
D4T4. Goin' Down Removed pops at 1:00.378, 6:17.059, 6:59.405, 7:00.447
D4T5. Casey Jones Dropout in left channel at 0:4.489. Digital noise in different channels
Copied right channel from 0:4.05
Comments
Other Sources (comments)
SBD (could be MR> C> D);... (1)
S : MR > DAT > CDR > EAC >... (0)
mixed SBD sources: Set 1:... (3)
flac24 ; source: aud... (0)
flac16 ; source: aud... (0)
flac16 ; Matrix 2 Source... (0)
DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Mix ; SBD... (0)
flac16/48kHz ; 5.1 LPCM... (0)
flac16 ; Partial Show... (0)
SBD (could be MR> C> D);... (1)
S : MR > DAT > CDR > EAC >... (0)
mixed SBD sources: Set 1:... (3)
flac24 ; source: aud... (0)
flac16 ; source: aud... (0)
flac16 ; Matrix 2 Source... (0)
DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Mix ; SBD... (0)
flac16/48kHz ; 5.1 LPCM... (0)
flac16 ; Partial Show... (0)
Date: 06/06/2003
User:
Alan J Fink
May 28th, 2003
SBE found on gd74-06-16d1t08 "El Paso" and shns not seekable.
SBE fixed via shntool and new SHNs created by
Alan J Fink (aj.fink@verizon.net) using MKW,
appending seek table to end of Shorten files.
__________________________________________________________________
length expanded size cdr WAVE probs filename
5:28.63 58007420 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t01.shn
6:31.46 69080636 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t02.shn
8:07.66 86062076 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t03.shn
5:29.73 58207340 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t04.shn
9:49.26 103960796 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t05.shn
7:32.48 79845740 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t06.shn
5:54.74 62619692 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t07.shn
8:37.46 91307036 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t08.shn
6:26.29 68158652 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t09.shn
6:06.66 64717676 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t10.shn
8:20.03 88207100 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d2t01.shn
7:10.35 75934364 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d2t02.shn
4:57.05 52402604 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d2t03.shn
6:03.15 64068524 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d2t04.shn
4:02.29 42757052 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d2t05.shn
18:46.27 198689948 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d2t06.shn
7:30.02 79384748 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d2t07.shn
29:17.42 310033628 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d3t01.shn
8:10.61 86579516 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d3t02.shn
3:15.43 34499180 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d3t03.shn
5:54.18 62487980 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d3t04.shn
5:31.28 58454300 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d3t05.shn
6:53.49 72968492 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d3t06.shn
8:17.65 87823724 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d4t01.shn
12:54.12 136561868 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d4t02.shn
8:52.64 93995372 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d4t03.shn
8:19.22 88075388 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d4t04.shn
7:17.57 77220908 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d4t05.shn
231:40.64 2338.52 MB (totals for 28 files, 0.5742 overall compression ratio)
SBE found on gd74-06-16d1t08 "El Paso" and shns not seekable.
SBE fixed via shntool and new SHNs created by
Alan J Fink (aj.fink@verizon.net) using MKW,
appending seek table to end of Shorten files.
__________________________________________________________________
length expanded size cdr WAVE probs filename
5:28.63 58007420 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t01.shn
6:31.46 69080636 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t02.shn
8:07.66 86062076 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t03.shn
5:29.73 58207340 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t04.shn
9:49.26 103960796 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t05.shn
7:32.48 79845740 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t06.shn
5:54.74 62619692 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t07.shn
8:37.46 91307036 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t08.shn
6:26.29 68158652 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t09.shn
6:06.66 64717676 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d1t10.shn
8:20.03 88207100 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d2t01.shn
7:10.35 75934364 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d2t02.shn
4:57.05 52402604 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d2t03.shn
6:03.15 64068524 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d2t04.shn
4:02.29 42757052 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d2t05.shn
18:46.27 198689948 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d2t06.shn
7:30.02 79384748 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d2t07.shn
29:17.42 310033628 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d3t01.shn
8:10.61 86579516 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d3t02.shn
3:15.43 34499180 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d3t03.shn
5:54.18 62487980 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d3t04.shn
5:31.28 58454300 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d3t05.shn
6:53.49 72968492 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d3t06.shn
8:17.65 87823724 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d4t01.shn
12:54.12 136561868 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d4t02.shn
8:52.64 93995372 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d4t03.shn
8:19.22 88075388 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d4t04.shn
7:17.57 77220908 --- -- -xx gd74-06-16d4t05.shn
231:40.64 2338.52 MB (totals for 28 files, 0.5742 overall compression ratio)
None of these seeds of 6/16/74 are from a SBD>MR>DAT source. The correct lineage of this show is:
Set One: SBD>MR>Cass>DAT>CD
Set Two & Three: SBD>MCass>DAT>CD
There are noticeable differences in the mix and sound quality between the Reel & Cassette Masters. Rob Eaton's list shows a SBD>MR>Cass>DAT source for the complete show but AFAIK it does not currently circulate.
Set One: SBD>MR>Cass>DAT>CD
Set Two & Three: SBD>MCass>DAT>CD
There are noticeable differences in the mix and sound quality between the Reel & Cassette Masters. Rob Eaton's list shows a SBD>MR>Cass>DAT source for the complete show but AFAIK it does not currently circulate.
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