Grateful Dead 11/03/1984
Berkeley Community Theater, Berkeley, CA
Source Summary
MSP > D > CD patched with MAC > C > C > D EAC & SHN conversion by John Mollman from Jim Powell's seed
MSP > D > CD patched with MAC > C > C > D EAC & SHN conversion by John Mollman from Jim Powell's seed
Other Sources
SHNID 8212 SBD> MC> DAT> CD; Seeded to etree by Peter...
SHNID 18111 AUD>MC>DAT>CDR via Raoul Duke, encoded by Willy...
SHNID 78704 flac16 ; Sennheiser 421s > PCM > DAT > Sony...
SHNID 110773 flac16 ; Recording Info: SBD -> PCM -> Dat...
SHNID 147478 flac16 ; source: aud cassette master;...
SHNID 147479 flac24 ; source: aud cassette master;...
SHNID 150801 flac16/44.1khz Source: Master AUDCA:...
SHNID 150802 flac24/48khz Source: Master AUDCA:...
SHNID 169044 flac1648 Master Audience Cassettes;...
SHNID 169045 flac2496 Master Audience Cassettes;...
Grateful Dead
11/03/84
Berkeley Community Theater, Berkeley, CA
MSP > D > CD patched with MAC > C > C > D
EAC & SHN conversion by John Mollman from Jim Powell's seeds
Sector Boundaries verified w/ shntool
Disc #1: 57:07
Set I
1. --preamble-- [0:28]
2. Alabama Getaway [6:35] >
3. Promised Land [7:12]
4. FOTD [10:39]
5. Down in the Bottom [8:34]
6. It Must Have Been the Roses [5:26]
7. The Music Never Stopped [9:03] >
8. Deal [9:08]
9. "we'll be back" [0:05]
Disc #2: 48:54
Set II
1. Feel Like A Stranger [9:51]
2. Cumberland Blues [6:06]
3. Gloria [8:48] >
4. Why Don't We Do it in the Road [6:00] >
5. Jam [5:12] >
6. Drums [12:49]
Disc #3: 55:16
1. Space [12:10] >
2. Uncle John's Band [11:47] >
3. Dear Mr. Fantasy [6:57] >
4. Throwing Stones [9:26] >
5. Lovelight [9:05]
6. --outro-- [0:12]
ENCORE
7. --dead air-- [0:05]
8. Brokedown Palace [5:32]
9. --outro-- [0:05]
Notes from Jim Powell:
Patches & remastering by Dave Greenberg. Uploads &
project coordination by Jim Powell.
This contains the complete show. About 20 seconds
from the end of Gloria to the first six seconds of Why
Don't We Do It In The Road and 19 seconds from Uncle
John's Band (10:42 - 11:01) are patched in from AUD.
A 1 second glitch at the end of space (12:03) was also
fixed.
This show, the last of an important 6-show run at the
BCT in late '84, tends to be undeservedly overshadowed
by the previous night (11/2/84, which features the
Gimme Some Lovin breakout and lots else). Highlights
of the 3rd include a solid first set featuring one of
the two or three 15-bar-blues versions of Down In The
Bottom and, in the second set Stranger > Cumberland,
the most jammed out version of Gloria they ever
played, and a splendid space > UJB > Mr. Fantasy. The
Throwin Stones is also strong. Why Don't We Do It In
The Road is something of a car crash, but fun.
We've waited a long time to get this together. It's a
pleasure to put it out.
SHN Notes:
EAC test & copy in secure mode, offset corrected. Sector boundaries verified w/ shntool. Shorten encoded (seekable) using shorten.
Seeded to ETree 1/17/2004 by John Mollman
11/03/84
Berkeley Community Theater, Berkeley, CA
MSP > D > CD patched with MAC > C > C > D
EAC & SHN conversion by John Mollman from Jim Powell's seeds
Sector Boundaries verified w/ shntool
Disc #1: 57:07
Set I
1. --preamble-- [0:28]
2. Alabama Getaway [6:35] >
3. Promised Land [7:12]
4. FOTD [10:39]
5. Down in the Bottom [8:34]
6. It Must Have Been the Roses [5:26]
7. The Music Never Stopped [9:03] >
8. Deal [9:08]
9. "we'll be back" [0:05]
Disc #2: 48:54
Set II
1. Feel Like A Stranger [9:51]
2. Cumberland Blues [6:06]
3. Gloria [8:48] >
4. Why Don't We Do it in the Road [6:00] >
5. Jam [5:12] >
6. Drums [12:49]
Disc #3: 55:16
1. Space [12:10] >
2. Uncle John's Band [11:47] >
3. Dear Mr. Fantasy [6:57] >
4. Throwing Stones [9:26] >
5. Lovelight [9:05]
6. --outro-- [0:12]
ENCORE
7. --dead air-- [0:05]
8. Brokedown Palace [5:32]
9. --outro-- [0:05]
Notes from Jim Powell:
Patches & remastering by Dave Greenberg. Uploads &
project coordination by Jim Powell.
This contains the complete show. About 20 seconds
from the end of Gloria to the first six seconds of Why
Don't We Do It In The Road and 19 seconds from Uncle
John's Band (10:42 - 11:01) are patched in from AUD.
A 1 second glitch at the end of space (12:03) was also
fixed.
This show, the last of an important 6-show run at the
BCT in late '84, tends to be undeservedly overshadowed
by the previous night (11/2/84, which features the
Gimme Some Lovin breakout and lots else). Highlights
of the 3rd include a solid first set featuring one of
the two or three 15-bar-blues versions of Down In The
Bottom and, in the second set Stranger > Cumberland,
the most jammed out version of Gloria they ever
played, and a splendid space > UJB > Mr. Fantasy. The
Throwin Stones is also strong. Why Don't We Do It In
The Road is something of a car crash, but fun.
We've waited a long time to get this together. It's a
pleasure to put it out.
SHN Notes:
EAC test & copy in secure mode, offset corrected. Sector boundaries verified w/ shntool. Shorten encoded (seekable) using shorten.
Seeded to ETree 1/17/2004 by John Mollman
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SBD> MC> DAT> CD; Seeded to... (2)
AUD>MC>DAT>CDR via Raoul... (0)
flac16 ; Sennheiser 421s >... (1)
flac16 ; Recording Info:... (1)
flac16 ; source: aud... (0)
flac24 ; source: aud... (0)
flac16/44.1khz Source:... (0)
flac24/48khz Source:... (0)
flac1648 Master Audience... (0)
flac2496 Master Audience... (0)
SBD> MC> DAT> CD; Seeded to... (2)
AUD>MC>DAT>CDR via Raoul... (0)
flac16 ; Sennheiser 421s >... (1)
flac16 ; Recording Info:... (1)
flac16 ; source: aud... (0)
flac24 ; source: aud... (0)
flac16/44.1khz Source:... (0)
flac24/48khz Source:... (0)
flac1648 Master Audience... (0)
flac2496 Master Audience... (0)
Date: 01/21/2004
User:
wik
Regarding source info, what exactly is MSP? If it means PCM, why not say PCM as usual? Or does it mean master stereo porkchop? Or Minneapolis St Paul?
Date: 01/21/2004
User:
jb
I would guess this was actually mastered on cassette. Look at where the patches are. If you assume that the first flip would come between Roses and Music, then it's 45 minutes to the next patch between Gloria and Road and another 45 to the splice in UJB.
Date: 01/22/2004
User:
Joe Jupille
MSP probably = Master Soundboard PCM, in the same form as the better-known MSR, MSC, MAC, etc. This way seems fine to me, saves two letters.
Date: 10/04/2010
User:
charliemiller
This is from a cassette.
Date: 10/29/2010
User:
charliemiller
I currently have the 2nd set from the vault pcm > vault back up dat. It sounds much better than this and help prove that this source is from a cassette which has been heavily EQ'd to be passed off as a PCM. There are many greenberg/powell sources like this. Why would someone EQ a show and try to pas it off as something that it's not?
Date: 10/29/2010
User:
charliemiller
I forgot to mention that it sounds like there is horrible digital noise reduction between songs to help hide the hiss.
Date: 10/29/2010
User:
charliemiller
I also forgot to mention that the "PCM" source is off pitch which further proves that is is from an analog source.
Date: 11/06/2010
User:
charliemiller
The first set is 2.5% fast and the second set is 2.5% slow. That's a 5% difference between sets. This probably comes from two different cassette sources. I'm pretty sure that the first set is a 1st gen cassette (not a master).
Date: 11/06/2010
User:
charliemiller
sorry about the confusion, I only checked the 2nd set which was 2.5% slow, it was the other source that was fast.
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