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Fat Cats 09/21/2001

SHOWID 72845

Set I

Soldier's Home
Frontier
It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry
Spring
Fatman In The Bathtub
Climb// (daw Crash:song Faded Out, Also Missing "high Time")
Dark Hollow
Teaspoon
Friend Of The Devil
Stand Back
Waiting In Vain
Me And Rennie
Baby Blue
Bronyaur Stomp
Bertha

Set II

 

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User (active/rating) Media / # Show Sound Details DB Source User Source
Richie (5/5) SHN / 1 View   Aud>?>CDR>EAC>SHN
Notes: 1CDR
Cardz024 (5/5) CDR / 1 A A View  
Andrew Crow (4/0) CDR / 1 A+ View   Oktava MC012's* -> Marantz PMD650 (safety copy) ->AES/EBU out -> Dr. D format...
Notes: 1.? 2.?Let it Go 3.?My Baby Will 4.? 5.Fatman in the Bathtub 6.?Triangle Song// (DAW crash:song faded out, also missing "High Time") 7.?Dark Hollow 8.?Hands Down Easy 9.Friend of the Devil 10.? 11.Wait in Vain 12.?Me and Remi 13.? 14.?Zeppelin tune 15.Bertha
Andrew Crow (4/0) CDR / 1 A+ View   Oktava MC012's* -> Marantz PMD650 (safety copy) ->AES/EBU out -> Dr. D format...
Notes: 1.? 2.?Let it Go 3.?My Baby Will 4.? 5.Fatman in the Bathtub 6.?Triangle Song// (DAW crash:song faded out, also missing "High Time") 7.?Dark Hollow 8.?Hands Down Easy 9.Friend of the Devil 10.? 11.Wait in Vain 12.?Me and Remi 13.? 14.?Zeppelin tune 15.Bertha
Crazytigerrabbitman (3/4.8) SHN / 1 View  
Renee (3/5) shn / 1 View  
marc serpa francoeur (3/0) / 1 View  
SolarGarlic (1/0) SHN / 1 View  
Greg N. (1/5) SHN / 1 A View  
Morgan (1/0) / 0 View  
Matt Ponak (1/0) CDR wav / 1 A+ View  
Notes: Feckin' Fantastic show
calgarytrader (0/4.8) cdr / 1 a a View  
Dustin (0/0) SHN / 1 A View   Aud>?>CDR>EAC>SHN?
Keri (0/5) CDR / 1 A View   Aud>?>CDR>EAC>SHN
Greg N. (0/0) / 1 View  
steve (0/0) cd-r / 2 View   Aud>?>CDR>EAC>SHN
Esau (0/0) SHN / 1 A ( View   See Notes
Notes: Fat Cats September 21, 2001 Jambands.ca Fall Festival Lancaster Tavern, Kitchener, Ontario Recorded/Mixed by Eric Warren (tungstengruvsten@hotmail.com) Recording information: Microphones: Oktava MC012's* -> Marantz PMD650 (safety copy) ->AES/EBU out -> Dr. D format convertor -> SP/DIF in Delta 1010(16bit/44.1kHz) Soundboard: stereo patch -> Delta 1010 (24 bit/96kHz) *-10dB pad, cardioid capsules--hung XY from ceiling, 15' from stage The two stereo pairs were recorded in Vegas 2.0 See mixing info below. 1.Soldier's Home 2.Frontier 3.It takes alot to laugh, it takes a train to cry. 4.Spring 5.Fatman in the Bathtub 6.Climb// (DAW crash:song faded out, also missing "High Time") 7.Dark Hollow 8.Teaspoon 9.Friend of the Devil 10.Stand Back 11.Waiting in Vain 12.Me and Rennie 13.Baby Blue 14.Bronyaur Stomp 15.Bertha Notes: All work was done from the hard drive copies, the MD Safety copies weren't needed. All monitoring was done with Event 20/20bas Active monitors as well as AKG K240 headphones. Signal path was Delta 10/10 -> Mackie 1604VLZ -> Event 20/20bas. The Soundboard was resampled to 16-bit/44.1k in Soundforge (Highest Quality) prior to mixing With the 4 tracks being available to me, I chose to mix AND master the recordings for a few different reasons: a. To correct any imperfections that would degrade the listening experience 2. To compensate for the lack of compression on the soundboard tracks c. To elevate these performances from standard bootleg quality 7. Cause I can and will! d. all of the above This was the one and only time the DAW crashed- lost a song and a half in the process of rebooting and reconfiguring it to use another hard drive(stupid lightning). This is the first matrix mix, and this had to be treated differently than a straight stereo signal. Since the microphones were 15' back from the PA, there is an inherent delay between the two signals. The microphones had to be moved ahead 1.3 mS (t=d/v where t=time in seconds, d=distance of mics and v=velocity of sound:1130 ft/sec) in relation to the soundboard BEFORE they were mixed together to compensate for this delay. I did the change by lining up a couple of percussion peaks and then checking in each song to make sure it visibly lined up. The actual delay was 1.26 mS when done this way. Digital Editing: We didn't run compressors on anything when we did sound so a couple things really peaked the levels, the odd clap, feedback or percussion seems like it. These were manually notched in Vegas with Volume automation. 2 sec fade in/out were added at the start, set break and end. The Soundboard had a Low Shelf EQ (1.7dB@190Hz) applied, while the Mic's had no EQ changes, just a subtle left/right adjustment to make both mic's equal volume. The microphones and soundboard were mixed together at a ratio of 1:3, then the resulting mix was normalized to 0.5 dB. This was then run through the Timeworks Mastering Compressor. Due to the acoustic nature of these guys, the threshold was reduced to -4dB to allow greater dynamics in the material.duced to -4dB to allow greater dynamics in the material.