Grateful Dead 05/08/1977
Barton Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY
Source Summary
DTS Audio 5.1: SBD (Betty Board) > Master 7" Nagra reels 1/2 track @ 7.5ips > Sony PCM501. Playback on Sony PCM 701>DAT (Digital Transfer) -- Rob Eaton DBX Decoding (Spring '99) Playback on Panasonic 4100 DAT > DB 924 D/A > Dolby 361's w/dbx K9-22 Cards > DB 124 A/D > Neve Capricorn (Digital mixing console) > DB 300S > Panasonic 4100 DAT> DAT> Digi Coax Cable > Tascam CD-RW700 > CDR (x1) > SHN (Rob Eaton remaster) AUD (Steve Maizner) > Sony ECM-990 > Sony TC-152 aud master > First Gen Reel > Played directly to hard drive > CDR > SHN; see pub comments re additional reflac version
DTS Audio 5.1: SBD (Betty Board) > Master 7" Nagra reels 1/2 track @ 7.5ips > Sony PCM501. Playback on Sony PCM 701>DAT (Digital Transfer) -- Rob Eaton DBX Decoding (Spring '99) Playback on Panasonic 4100 DAT > DB 924 D/A > Dolby 361's w/dbx K9-22 Cards > DB 124 A/D > Neve Capricorn (Digital mixing console) > DB 300S > Panasonic 4100 DAT> DAT> Digi Coax Cable > Tascam CD-RW700 > CDR (x1) > SHN (Rob Eaton remaster) AUD (Steve Maizner) > Sony ECM-990 > Sony TC-152 aud master > First Gen Reel > Played directly to hard drive > CDR > SHN; see pub comments re additional reflac version
Other Sources
SHNID 266 w/AUD splices? to patch reel flips: Betty Board...
SHNID 4982 freshly remastered Betty Board with AUD...
SHNID 5002 Lineage: -- Steve Maizner's Sony ECM-990>Sony...
SHNID 26857 Matrix based on these sources: Source Info SBD...
SHNID 28301 MAC> R> CD; recorded by Jerry Moore: Sony 153...
SHNID 28354 flac16 ; MAC> R> CD Audience Recording by...
SHNID 29303 flac16 ; Handheld Shure 57's,10 Feet From...
SHNID 29511 Source Info: "3 Source Matrix Mix, SBD + AUD1 +...
SHNID 30756 flac16, DTS ; complete show; combination of...
SHNID 35086 flac24/96 ; SBD+AUD1+AUD2 Matrix Mix...
SHNID 87486 flac16 ; Set 1 only ; partial SBD (1st part...
SHNID 97274 flac16 ; SBD (shnid=4982) and AUD (shnid=29303...
SHNID 111493 flac16 ; Matrix by Hunter Seamons using Final...
SHNID 117026 flac16 ; source: aud taped by Jerry Moore;...
SHNID 117027 flac24 ; source: aud taped by Jerry Moore;...
SHNID 134093 flac24 ; source: aud cassette master; taped by...
SHNID 137569 flac24 ; 3 Source Matrix by Dusborne;...
SHNID 137570 flac16 ; 3 Source Matrix by Dusborne;...
SHNID 137571 flac24 ; 2 Source Matrix by Dusborne; Audience...
SHNID 137572 flac16 ; 2 Source Matrix by Dusborne; Audience...
SHNID 148737 flac24 ; Source: Betty Cantor's SBD Reel...
SHNID 152379 flac2448; Source: Mono Sony hand-held...
Grateful Dead
Barton Hall, Cornell Univ.
Ithaca, NY
05/08/77 Set 2
DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Mix
01 [01.55] Take A Step Back
02 [10.46] Scarlet Begonias >
03 [16.01] Fire On The Mountain
04 [09.58] Estimated Prophet
05 [04.43] Saint Stephen >
06 [16.22] Not Fade Away >
07 [01.52] Saint Stephen >
08 [13.39] Morning Dew
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Source Info
SBD (Betty Board) > Master 7" Nagra reels 1/2 track @
7.5ips > Sony PCM501. Playback on Sony PCM 701>DAT (Digital
Transfer) -- Rob Eaton DBX Decoding (Spring '99) Playback on
Panasonic 4100 DAT > DB 924 D/A > Dolby 361's w/dbx K9-22
Cards > DB 124 A/D > Neve Capricorn (Digital mixing console) >
DB 300S > Panasonic 4100 DAT>DAT>Digi Coax Cable > Tascam
CD-RW700 > CDR (x1) > SHN (Rob Eaton remaster)
AUD (Steve Maizner) > Sony ECM-990 > Sony TC-152 aud master >
First Gen Reel > Played directly to hard drive > CDR > SHN
---------------------------------------------------------
Tech Notes
I used EAC in secure mode to extract all tracks at 100%
no reported errors. Cool Edit Pro 2.0 was used to align &
synch both sources. CEP2.0 used to adjust the volume
for the center and LFE channels. Surcode CD Pro DTS was
used to encode to DTS. -3db was NOT applied to the rear
channels. Both of the sources for the front and rear
channels were left at their original levels.
- Mixed by dan@am-dig.com
- Shn conversion 09-FEB-2004
- Artwork by dan@am-dig.com 300dpi - For best results
print at the highest resolution onto glossy photo paper.
Design for use with a clear single jewel case.
---------------------------------------------------------
DTS-Audio-CD Info
Front Left Left Channel SBD (Betty Board)
Front Right Right Channel SBD (Betty Board)
Center Mixed to mono -3db SBD (Betty Board)
Surround Left Channel Sony ECM-990
Surround Right Channel Sony ECM-990
Sub/LFE Mixed to mono -3db SBD (Betty Board)
---------------------------------------------------------
Notes
Known Flaws:
1.2 second digital error at approx. 10:35 to 10:37 in Scarlet
was patched using my 10 year old DAT copy that was labeled:
SBD: Master Reel > DAT. The result is smooth and most likely
undetectable.
Crowd cheer/tuning between Estimated and St. Stephen was missing
on the AUD source. I used a "crowd cheer/tuning" from another
portion of the same Aud recording. I also shortened the overall
length by a minute. No music is missing and it came out sounding
smooth and natural.
The first set was riddled with btwn song cuts and had several
cuts in songs on both the SBD and the AUD. It is possible to
make a DTS and a matrix mix for set one but the final result
will be very "choppy". Maybe someday but for now, enjoy this!
---------------------------------------------------------
More On DTS
Today's audio standards are moving towards multi-channel sound,
like DTS and Dolby Digital. While the Audio-CD standard (Red Book)
hasn't changed to accommodate these new sound formats, it is still
possible to go around the specification and to put a 5.1 surround
recording on a regular Audio-CD. To play a DTS-Audio-CD you must
connect your DVD/CD player via a digital cable (optical or coaxial)
to your DTS Dolby-Digital receiver. It is not 100% sure that your
receiver will recognize a DTS-Audio CD, so the first time you're
trying to playback a DTS-Audio-CD you must do a test to determine
if it can. Begin with the volume very low, start the disc and rise
the volume gradually. NEVER listen to a DTS-Audio-CD through the
analogue audio outputs of your CDDVD player.
Burning Instructions
Burn them the absolute same way as you would burn any normal Audio-CD
from .shn files.
Barton Hall, Cornell Univ.
Ithaca, NY
05/08/77 Set 2
DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Mix
01 [01.55] Take A Step Back
02 [10.46] Scarlet Begonias >
03 [16.01] Fire On The Mountain
04 [09.58] Estimated Prophet
05 [04.43] Saint Stephen >
06 [16.22] Not Fade Away >
07 [01.52] Saint Stephen >
08 [13.39] Morning Dew
---------------------------------------------------------
Source Info
SBD (Betty Board) > Master 7" Nagra reels 1/2 track @
7.5ips > Sony PCM501. Playback on Sony PCM 701>DAT (Digital
Transfer) -- Rob Eaton DBX Decoding (Spring '99) Playback on
Panasonic 4100 DAT > DB 924 D/A > Dolby 361's w/dbx K9-22
Cards > DB 124 A/D > Neve Capricorn (Digital mixing console) >
DB 300S > Panasonic 4100 DAT>DAT>Digi Coax Cable > Tascam
CD-RW700 > CDR (x1) > SHN (Rob Eaton remaster)
AUD (Steve Maizner) > Sony ECM-990 > Sony TC-152 aud master >
First Gen Reel > Played directly to hard drive > CDR > SHN
---------------------------------------------------------
Tech Notes
I used EAC in secure mode to extract all tracks at 100%
no reported errors. Cool Edit Pro 2.0 was used to align &
synch both sources. CEP2.0 used to adjust the volume
for the center and LFE channels. Surcode CD Pro DTS was
used to encode to DTS. -3db was NOT applied to the rear
channels. Both of the sources for the front and rear
channels were left at their original levels.
- Mixed by dan@am-dig.com
- Shn conversion 09-FEB-2004
- Artwork by dan@am-dig.com 300dpi - For best results
print at the highest resolution onto glossy photo paper.
Design for use with a clear single jewel case.
---------------------------------------------------------
DTS-Audio-CD Info
Front Left Left Channel SBD (Betty Board)
Front Right Right Channel SBD (Betty Board)
Center Mixed to mono -3db SBD (Betty Board)
Surround Left Channel Sony ECM-990
Surround Right Channel Sony ECM-990
Sub/LFE Mixed to mono -3db SBD (Betty Board)
---------------------------------------------------------
Notes
Known Flaws:
1.2 second digital error at approx. 10:35 to 10:37 in Scarlet
was patched using my 10 year old DAT copy that was labeled:
SBD: Master Reel > DAT. The result is smooth and most likely
undetectable.
Crowd cheer/tuning between Estimated and St. Stephen was missing
on the AUD source. I used a "crowd cheer/tuning" from another
portion of the same Aud recording. I also shortened the overall
length by a minute. No music is missing and it came out sounding
smooth and natural.
The first set was riddled with btwn song cuts and had several
cuts in songs on both the SBD and the AUD. It is possible to
make a DTS and a matrix mix for set one but the final result
will be very "choppy". Maybe someday but for now, enjoy this!
---------------------------------------------------------
More On DTS
Today's audio standards are moving towards multi-channel sound,
like DTS and Dolby Digital. While the Audio-CD standard (Red Book)
hasn't changed to accommodate these new sound formats, it is still
possible to go around the specification and to put a 5.1 surround
recording on a regular Audio-CD. To play a DTS-Audio-CD you must
connect your DVD/CD player via a digital cable (optical or coaxial)
to your DTS Dolby-Digital receiver. It is not 100% sure that your
receiver will recognize a DTS-Audio CD, so the first time you're
trying to playback a DTS-Audio-CD you must do a test to determine
if it can. Begin with the volume very low, start the disc and rise
the volume gradually. NEVER listen to a DTS-Audio-CD through the
analogue audio outputs of your CDDVD player.
Burning Instructions
Burn them the absolute same way as you would burn any normal Audio-CD
from .shn files.
Comments
Other Sources (comments)
w/AUD splices? to patch... (3)
freshly remastered Betty... (16)
Lineage: -- Steve Maizner's... (6)
Matrix based on these... (0)
MAC> R> CD; recorded by... (6)
flac16 ; MAC> R> CD... (0)
flac16 ; Handheld Shure... (0)
Source Info: "3 Source... (0)
flac16, DTS ; complete... (0)
flac24/96 ; SBD+AUD1+AUD2... (0)
flac16 ; Set 1 only ;... (11)
flac16 ; SBD (shnid=4982)... (0)
flac16 ; Matrix by Hunter... (0)
flac16 ; source: aud taped... (0)
flac24 ; source: aud taped... (0)
flac24 ; source: aud... (0)
flac24 ; 3 Source Matrix... (0)
flac16 ; 3 Source Matrix... (0)
flac24 ; 2 Source Matrix... (0)
flac16 ; 2 Source Matrix... (0)
flac24 ; Source: Betty... (0)
flac2448; Source: Mono... (0)
w/AUD splices? to patch... (3)
freshly remastered Betty... (16)
Lineage: -- Steve Maizner's... (6)
Matrix based on these... (0)
MAC> R> CD; recorded by... (6)
flac16 ; MAC> R> CD... (0)
flac16 ; Handheld Shure... (0)
Source Info: "3 Source... (0)
flac16, DTS ; complete... (0)
flac24/96 ; SBD+AUD1+AUD2... (0)
flac16 ; Set 1 only ;... (11)
flac16 ; SBD (shnid=4982)... (0)
flac16 ; Matrix by Hunter... (0)
flac16 ; source: aud taped... (0)
flac24 ; source: aud taped... (0)
flac24 ; source: aud... (0)
flac24 ; 3 Source Matrix... (0)
flac16 ; 3 Source Matrix... (0)
flac24 ; 2 Source Matrix... (0)
flac16 ; 2 Source Matrix... (0)
flac24 ; Source: Betty... (0)
flac2448; Source: Mono... (0)
Date: 12/01/2004
User:
Diana
Darrin wrote about this DTS version:
"When using the shn plugin on my pc (p4, 2.8ghz, 512mb ram), I've been unable to burn cds at speeds faster than 4x without the "burn proof" feature kicking in to prevent buffer underruns. I have no such problem when burning flac files and therefore summarily convert all shns I download to flac once downloaded. Bottom line, sorry for the confusion caused by my inadvertently circulating a second version of this fine dts mix of a great show and rest assured that this flac version has no intermediate dae/etc. steps."
"When using the shn plugin on my pc (p4, 2.8ghz, 512mb ram), I've been unable to burn cds at speeds faster than 4x without the "burn proof" feature kicking in to prevent buffer underruns. I have no such problem when burning flac files and therefore summarily convert all shns I download to flac once downloaded. Bottom line, sorry for the confusion caused by my inadvertently circulating a second version of this fine dts mix of a great show and rest assured that this flac version has no intermediate dae/etc. steps."
Date: 12/01/2004
User:
Diana
Summary of some other formerly misplaced comments, now on correct version:
-Gary reported flac version being in circ (md5's above)
-Darrin replied, "That would be my doing -- I converted the shns I downloaded off of the bt.etree.org bittorrent of the above version directly to flac using dbpoweramp so I could burn directly to audio cd using flac's nero plugin and must have sent the flacs up to tol instead of the shns. The flac versions are bit-perfect identical to the shns originally circulated, just in flac format instead of shn."
-Charles then asked, "Why not just use the Nero SHN plugin, nxMySHN.dll? It works the same as the FLAC plugin, nxMyFLA.dll."
-Charlie Miller followed up, "I was not aware of the shn plugin...where do I put the .dll with win2k? cm"
-Gary reported flac version being in circ (md5's above)
-Darrin replied, "That would be my doing -- I converted the shns I downloaded off of the bt.etree.org bittorrent of the above version directly to flac using dbpoweramp so I could burn directly to audio cd using flac's nero plugin and must have sent the flacs up to tol instead of the shns. The flac versions are bit-perfect identical to the shns originally circulated, just in flac format instead of shn."
-Charles then asked, "Why not just use the Nero SHN plugin, nxMySHN.dll? It works the same as the FLAC plugin, nxMyFLA.dll."
-Charlie Miller followed up, "I was not aware of the shn plugin...where do I put the .dll with win2k? cm"
Date: 12/01/2004
User:
Gary
To make matters worse, I'll point out that these DTS sources are lossy and pobably shouldn't even be listed here. There is more info here.
Date: 12/02/2004
User:
Diana
There also appears to be developing info here, mentioning that Dan voluntarily pulled his seed(s) off bt.
Date: 12/02/2004
User:
Diana
BTW re listing "here" as in http://db.etree.org/shncirc, if something's been circulating in shn or flac then it belongs in this listing, whether lossy-sourced or not. It's part of the historic record of shn and flac sets in circulation. Example: An mp3-sourced version of some Phish show went around years ago in shn. Its listing here was instructive: that it existed, that a better version was needed for circ, and not to circulate the mp3>shn item further.
Date: 12/10/2004
User:
kevin
The flac files posted to tol do not rip to DTS-Audio on a plain CD-R.
I used Nero with the flac plug-in to burn directly from the flac files and it only records two tracks to the CD.
What's the exact process for burning this disc?
I used Nero with the flac plug-in to burn directly from the flac files and it only records two tracks to the CD.
What's the exact process for burning this disc?
Date: 12/10/2004
User:
Darrin
this should be burned/treated like any other audio cd -- and NOT burned as a data disk, etc.
I simply selected all of the flacs and burned them to an audio disk -- played fine in my dvd player as a dts surround.
I simply selected all of the flacs and burned them to an audio disk -- played fine in my dvd player as a dts surround.
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