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Grateful Dead 05/08/1977

Barton Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY
SHNID 4982
Source Summary
freshly remastered Betty Board with AUD splices, by Rob Eaton; see info file for extensive notes and credits; etreed by Darrin
Entered by dr.unclear
Checksums shn-md5, st5
Disc Counts 2 / 2
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
8/17/01
08/16/2001
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Archive Identifier gd77-05-08.sbd.hicks.4982.sbeok.shnf ↗

Other Sources
SHNID 266 w/AUD splices? to patch reel flips: Betty Board...
SHNID 5002 Lineage: -- Steve Maizner's Sony ECM-990>Sony...
SHNID 26856 DTS Audio 5.1 : SBD (Betty Board) > Master 7"...
SHNID 26857 Matrix based on these sources: Source Info SBD...
SHNID 28301 MAC> R> CD; recorded by Jerry Moore: Sony 153...
SHNID 28354 flac16 ; MAC> R> CD Audience Recording by...
SHNID 29303 flac16 ; Handheld Shure 57's,10 Feet From...
SHNID 29511 Source Info: "3 Source Matrix Mix, SBD + AUD1 +...
SHNID 30756 flac16, DTS ; complete show; combination of...
SHNID 35086 flac24/96 ; SBD+AUD1+AUD2 Matrix Mix...
SHNID 87486 flac16 ; Set 1 only ; partial SBD (1st part...
SHNID 97274 flac16 ; SBD (shnid=4982) and AUD (shnid=29303...
SHNID 111493 flac16 ; Matrix by Hunter Seamons using Final...
SHNID 117026 flac16 ; source: aud taped by Jerry Moore;...
SHNID 117027 flac24 ; source: aud taped by Jerry Moore;...
SHNID 134093 flac24 ; source: aud cassette master; taped by...
SHNID 137569 flac24 ; 3 Source Matrix by Dusborne;...
SHNID 137570 flac16 ; 3 Source Matrix by Dusborne;...
SHNID 137571 flac24 ; 2 Source Matrix by Dusborne; Audience...
SHNID 137572 flac16 ; 2 Source Matrix by Dusborne; Audience...
SHNID 148737 flac24 ; Source: Betty Cantor's SBD Reel...
SHNID 152379 flac2448; Source: Mono Sony hand-held...
Lineage:

Betty Board Portion -- Master 7" Nagra reels 1/2 track @ 7.5ips>Sony PCM 501. Playback on Sony PCM 701>DAT (Digital Transfer) -- Rob Eaton DBX Decoding (Spring '99) Playback on Panasonic 4100 DAT>DB 924 D/A>Dolby 361's w/dbx K9-22 Cards>DB 124 A/D>Neve Capricorn (Digital mixing console)>DB 300S>Panasonic 4100 DAT>DAT>Digi Coax Cable>Tascam CD-RW 700>CDR (x1)>SHN (Rob Eaton remaster)

Audience Portion -- Steve Maizner's Sony ECM-990>Sony TC-152 aud master>First Gen Reel>played directly to hard drive.  The excellent aud splices were normalized and patched using ProTools by Karen Hicks


Disk 1:

Set I

1. Minglewood Blues -> (AUD splice provides beginning of track)
2. Loser
3. El Paso
4. They Love Each Other
5. Jack Straw
6. Deal
7. Lazy Lightning -> Supplication (Aud Splice during transition)
8. Brown Eyed Women
9. Mama Tried

Disk 2:

Set I (continued)

1. Row Jimmy
2. Dancin' In The Streets

Set II

3. Take A Step Back/Tuning
4. Scarlet Begonias-> Fire On The Mountain

Disk 3:

Set II (continued):

1. Estimated Prophet
2. Tuning/Dead Air
3. Saint Stephen->
4. Not Fade Away->
5. Saint Stephen->
6. Morning Dew
7. Encore: Saturday Night





Culled from a May 6, 1999 post by Rob Eaton to dnc --

I recently re-decoded 5/5/77 and 5/8/77. I went into Right Track Studios in NYC (my home base studio ) set up in studio B (which is the premier state of the art Digital Music Studio in world). I had clean dat copies (provided by Tim Daulton) that were NOT decoded. I set up a chain consisting of: Panasonic Sv4100 AES out-->DB Technologies 924AD (24bit/96k capability)-->Dolby 361 Modules w/DBX K9-22 cards-->Neve Capricorn 32bit point processing/full 24bit Digital Console-->DB Technologies 122s 24bit/16bit conversion and 44.1k/48k sample rate conversion-->Panasonic Sv4100 Dat AES in. This is State of the Art Tchnology, getting as much of the music that was on the tapes as possible. The thing about DBX that nobody else got is that in order to decode it properly the volume into the decoder has to be exact, otherwise the tapes can be to bass heavy or to bright and compressed. These tapes are absoultly the best possible reproductions of the dig tapes made from the masters (I only wish I had the actual reels so I could do a proper azimuth adjustment on them).

Seeded to etree by darrin (dnsacks@usa.net) august 2001

Comments

Date: 08/23/2001
User: pete
Can anyone tell me if this SHN is superior to the version found on gdlive.com? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Date: 08/24/2001
User: darrin
Pete, I think that the sbd portion sounds slightly better than that on the gdlive version (it's crisper and fuller imho) and that the aud splices are head and shoulders above those on the gdlive version. Download a track or 3 from each, compare 'em, and decide for yourself.

Oh, and let us know what you think.
Date: 08/31/2001
User: pete
Thanks for the info, Darrin. After downloading a couple of tracks from both, i think that this newly remastered Betty Board does sound slightly better than the version at gdlive.com. The audience sectios were really cleaned up with this version.
Date: 10/09/2001
Why weren't Scarlet Begonias and Fire on the Mountain kept on separate tracks as in previous versions? Has anybody separated these and re-seeded? Regardless, this seed is a definite improvement and worth upgrading to.
Date: 11/03/2001
User: Andy
Sounds better than any other versions I've heard, but there seems to be a digi-snit @ 10:36 in Scarlet. Anyone else noticed this? My MD5's check out fine.
Date: 11/05/2001
User: DiPalma81
Yeah...this show is very crispy. Mine has that little skip during Scarlet Begonias also, same spot, and my MD5s checked out also.
Date: 01/17/2002
Very nice and clear - much better sound quality than what anyone actually in Barton Hall that night (like me) heard :-). Great job, Rob!
Date: 02/14/2002
This show sounds great! Hats off to the mixer!
Date: 08/15/2002
Incipient argument not directly related to this shn set has now been removed. More general discussions are welcome on the general messageboard here.
Date: 09/16/2002
My Eaton 5-8-77 DAT does not have the skip in Scarlet. It is completely clean. I don't have time to do the splices as was done with this seed, but if someone wants to, I can send transferred SHN's.
Date: 09/21/2002
User: darrin
Dan uploaded a copy of his version to me and it unfortunately contains exactly the same bit of diginoise as the seed (this is not a "skip" but a bit of digital "fuzz").

Specifically, the diginoise is on d2t4 from 10:36.418 through 10:36.448 -- I'm going to try and patch this from the non-eaton bbd.
Date: 01/31/2003
User: scottz
any word on whether a patch was made on this scarlet? c'mon, I mean we all have all the time in the world to fix a split second dropout right? :)
Date: 05/16/2003
User: dms
Just to clear this up... My DAT copy of this contians the same spot of diginoise as Darrin's. Both Darrin and I concluded that this spot of noise is present on all circulating copies. Therefore we very well may not be able to get rid of this flaw unless Rob Eaton re-seeds.
Date: 08/07/2003
This file set seems to contain the same flaws during Loser (d1t02) that are noted for the previous file set (http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=266), however they appear about 3 seconds earlier, consisting of two small pops at 2:39 and 2:46. An additional pop occurs at 8:24 of Loser.
Date: 01/13/2005
dancin' in the streets from this show is included as a bonus track on the reissue of terrapin station. the first track from this show to make it to official release i believe.
Date: 06/27/2006
User: Bob
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=26633
this has recieved an EAC>FLAC and being torrented under the same ID it is not this id.