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Derek & The Dominos 10/16/1970

SHOWID 44207

Set I

Ramblin' On My Mind
Why Does Love Got To Be So Sad
Blues Power >
Have You Ever Loved A Woman
Mean Old World
Motherless Children
Let It Rain

Set II

 

Set III

 

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Collectors With This Show

User (active/rating) Media / # Show Sound Details DB Source User Source
Joe (5/5) FLAC / 0 View   Silvers > CD-R > Liteon IHap 322 > EAC v. 0.99 Prebeta 5 (Secure, Offset Correct) > FLAC
wes meyette (5/0) / View  
xghs (5/0) FLAC16/44.1 / 0 View   unknown "1st Gen Aud Source" > CDR> EAC from Geetarz
Notes: "1st Gen Aud Source" is questionable, perhaps it is, but recorded with inferior equipment
Slick2007 (5/5) FLAC / 1 B+ View  
Rick Martin (5/5) Flac / 1 A- View   Silver CD > EAC > WAV > FLAC
Notes: Complete?
michael kass (5/5) cdr / 1 View  
BLG (5/0) FLAC / 1 View   bootleg cd
Baden (5/5) / 0 View  
David Bennett (5/5) cd / 1 A A View  
Gary K (5/5) cdr / 1 B+ View  
Marty (5/4.9) CDR / 1 View  
Notes: flac
Lester's Soundroom (5/5) CDR / 1 View  
sean hite (5/0) / 0 View  
Notes: Silver CD > EAC > WAV > FLAC
karl banach (5/4.9) cdr / 1 A A View  
Russell (5/5) FLAC / 1 View  
Notes: "The Majestic Stand"
joebeacon (5/5) cdr / 1 View  
Wiserphil (5/5) / 1 B+ View  
Jeff S (5/5) cd-r / 1 A- View   aud (remaster/upgrade. From DIME torrent)
sonny gable (5/5) / 1 View  
Jordan Jacobs (5/3) FLac / 0 View   AUD
Notes: from 1st Gen Audience Source - Aud 3
Jordan Jacobs (5/3) Flac / 0 View   xx
Notes: The Majestic Stand (Mid Valley 2006) 10/16/1970, 11/20/1970,
Srron (5/5) CDR / 2 View  
Joe (5/5) CD / 1 View  
Steve Blanchard (5/5) FLAC / 1 View   Liberated Deep Six bootleg
dann (5/5) flac / 0 View  
Will (5/0) / 0 View  
BILL SCARNATI (5/4) CDR / 1 View  
clay pelland (5/5) / 1 View  
Jeff Schlingbaum (5/5) CDR / 1 A- View   SBD
barry bryson 2 (5/0) CD / 1 View  
John (5/4.3) / 1 View  
Notes: book 3
Paul Conlon (5/4.9) cdr / 1 View  
mike rowley (5/0) cdr / 1 View  
Joe (5/5) CD-R / 1 B- View   Aud.
Joey Browning (5/4.9) cdr / 1 B View  
Ryan Stewart (5/3.7) / 1 A A View  
Robert Freemer (5/5) / 2 View  
Robert Freemer (5/5) / 1 View  
paul ross (5/4.5) cdr / 1 View  
SkyDog1980 (5/4.7) CDR / 1 View  
Lee Leff (5/0) CDR / 1 A A- View  
Freebird 63 (4/5) CDR / 1 B+ View   aud
Steve K (4/5) FLAC / 1 B View  
Notes: Part of "The Majestic Stand."
Michael Shilling (4/5) CDR/Flac / 1 A- View  
Notes: CD 2 from Feast Away box set. Zigzag Records; 2000 Press. My Favorite show from the Collection, largely due to an Outstanding 17 min. rendition of "Why Does Love Got To Be So Sad". Audience Recording; AUD 5-/6
Brad Foster (4/4.9) FLAC / 1 View   AUD
Edgar H (4/5) / 1 View   disc 1 of "The Majestic Stand" (Mid Valley)
Notes: SHOW HAS A VERY RICH AND FULL SOUND THAT ONLY A SMALL CLUB CAN PROVIDE. LONG JAMS EVERYWHERE, AND AN EXCELLENT VERSION OF "WHY DOES LOVE GOT TO BE SO SAD." IF YOU WANT TO HEAR CLAPTON PLAY AT ALL LIKE JIMI HENDRIX, THIS IS THE CLOSEST THING I HAVE COME ACROSS. ERIC'S GUITAR IS VERY WILD, BUT NOT DRIVEN BY MANY EFFECTS LIKE HENDRIX. A MUST HAVE FOR COLLECTORS.
Edgar H (4/5) / 1 View   "1st Gen Aud Source" > CD-R > LiteOn iHAP 322 > EAC v. 0.99 Prebeta 5 (Secure Mode,...
Notes: Geetarz Comments: This is a legendary Dominos show, and a personal favorite. Some older reference guides inexplicably refer to this as a soundboard, but it's clearly a marginal to average recording. Luckily a fantastic performance makes for any drawbacks of the source material. "Ramblin" features some of EC's best ever slide playing. EC can at times play slide a little too precisely - but in this performance, he exhibits loopy, "out of the box" playing that clearly shows Duane Allman's influence as he dances around all the notes. I don't recall EC performing "Ramblin'" in this arrangement again, which alone makes it unique. This performance is also notable for an incredible, mind bending, tour-de-force performance of "Why does Love...", which is in my Not-So-Humble opinion, not only the finest performance of this song of all time, but has to be one of EC's top performances of any song, ever. If I were making a list of the "Top 25 songs EC ever played" or something like that, this song would be on that list. And it's not just EC here. If you listen to some of the very early gigs, the band were a little loose, but here they play as a single organism, rising and falling, playing off each other for all they are worth. "Why Does..." has always had a demanding and unusual bass line, and Gordon holds it down, driving the song in the same way that Entwhistle would actually drive the rhythm of The Who as Moon, or in this case Jim Gordon, lays out some 15+ minutes of drum madness, and Bobby Whitlock holding it all together with a shimmering B3 and his incredible vocals. This performance of this song is indeed "epic", and unforgettable. This show also features the first-ever live performance of "Motherless Children", albeit in raw form, which in a way adds to its charm. Up until 2000, the best extant version was the one best identified by its length, 73:08. In mid-2000, a new version was discovered, which was labeled "1st Generation Audience Source". One way to identify this source, is that it clocks in at 72:54, whereas the inferior source clocks in at 73:08, with the additonal time on the inferior source being extra space on the tape where it was copied along the way. Sonically, this is a vast improvement over the 73:08 version, I'd say at least 2, perhaps as many as 4 generations' improvement. It goes without saying that this is also a real improvement over the commercial RoIO "Electric Factory" CD (Deep-6, Deep6-5). In the years since 2000, this low gen recording has been traded a bit, first among a circle of the pretty serious collectors and then likely used as the source for some of the tweaked and remastered versions later released on various ROIO labels.
Warren Childers (4/4.9) CD / 1 A B View  
Notes: Audience recording.
Scott Albrecht (4/5) Cdr / 1 A B- View   Aud
Notes: Audience recording w/o crowd noise, vocals very low. First 'Motherless Children'
Gringo (4/5) CD / 1 A B View  
Rene Mikkelsen (4/0) CDR / 1 A- View   AUD
Michael Hughey (4/0) flac / 1 View  
Notes: Source: Audience Recording Lineage: Mid Vally Bootleg CD > WAV > FLAC
Jan Bohan (4/5) / 1 B+ View   AUD
Notes: 73 mins; Deep Six boot
Blue R Ted (4/0) CD-R / 0 View  
Ryan Polansky (4/5) cdr / 1 A A View  
Notes: Vocals are very low.
Chris Arnold (4/3) CDR / 1 A A View   SHN
Woody (4/5) CDR / 1 View  
zowie (3/5) cd / 1 a- View   aud
Notes: early show
joe m (3/5) FLAC / 1 View   Philadelphia, October 16, 1970, early show Liberated Deep Six bootleg Stereo audience recording...
Jeff Hyman (3/5) cdr / 1 B+ View   aud
Alex Bushe (3/5) CD-R / 1 View  
Alan (3/5) CD / 1 A B+ View   Feast Away set / Majestic Stand.
Notes: from Feast Away set, see also 'Majestic Stand' - EVR 4CD.
Chuck (3/5) / 1 View  
Dan Stone (3/0) CDR / 1 View  
Notes: Liberated Deep Six bootleg
Bill d'Angelo (3/5) CDR / 1 View  
Fred (3/5) CDR / 1 View  
Jimmy (3/0) cdr / 1 View  
Jimmy (3/0) cdr / 1 View  
hugh (3/5) cd / 1 B+ View  
Ron Laxton (3/5) cdr / 1 View  
DiamondDave (3/5) CDR / 1 A View   SBD>??>CD
Chevy Lover (3/0) / 1 View  
Corey (3/5) Shn / 1 View   AUD -> ? -> CD -> EAC -> SHN
marc geanoules (3/5) CD / 1 B- View   aud
Rich Willis (3/0) CDR / 1 View  
Notes: Unknown source
MtnJammer (3/5) CDR / 1 A- View  
Notes: 1st Motherless Children
Tom Owens (3/5) FLAC / 1 View  
Chinacat (3/5) CDR / 1 B View  
RichB (3/5) Cdr / 1 B++ View  
Notes: Slight tape hiss
Jim Decker (3/5) CDR / 1 A A- View  
Notes: Tracklisting: Rambling On My Mind Why Does Love Got To Be So Sad Blues Power Have You Ever Loved A Woman Mean Old World Motherless Children Let It Rain
Graig Kreindler (3/5) cd / 2 B View   Aud
Notes: Doesn't sound too hot, but a nice show!
Richard Stein (3/5) CDR / 1 A A View  
sandman (3/0) cd / 1 View  
Soop (3/0) shn / 1 View  
KDW (3/0) CDR / 1 View  
Mikel Norris (3/5) CDR / 1 A B+ View  
Notes: Decent audience recording. First time they play Motherless Children.
Brian Mayes (3/4) CDR / 1 View  
RM's Giant Live Music Archive (2/5) FLAC / 0 View   audience source (RS040)
Notes: Silver CD > EAC > WAV > FLAC; Sorry, no checksum or fingerprints or artwork
RM's Giant Live Music Archive (2/5) FLAC / 0 View   Electric Factory (AC047)
Notes: liberated Deep Six bootleg
RM's Giant Live Music Archive (2/5) FLAC / 0 View   early show, 1st gen audience source (P031)
Notes: Lineage: "1st Gen Aud Source" > CD-R > LiteOn iHAP 322 > EAC v. 0.99 Prebeta 5 (Secure Mode, Offset Correct +6, 0, 24 bytes) > FLAC
Eric H. (2/5) CDR / 1 B View  
Mike Langen (2/4.9) cdr / 1 A/B View   Aud
Notes: Original infofile fro the upload by japrainbow - thanks to him! Derek & The Dominos Title: Noiseless Factory Dates: October 16, 1970 Venue: Electric Factory Theatre, Philadelphia, PA, US. Source: Aud 4 Stereo Recording Lineage: ECDR 7012 Boot CD-R > WAV > EAC > FLAC ------------------------------------------------------- Disc 01: Ramblin' On My Mind 02: Why Does Love Got To Be So Sad 03: Blues Power 04: Have You Ever Loved A Woman 05: Mean Old World 06: Motherless Children 07: Let It Rain ------------------------------------------------------ Band Lineup: Eric Clapton: Guitar, Vocals Bobby Whitlock: Keyboards, Vocals Carl Radle: Bass Jim Gordon: Drums My notes: Currently I am working on my project of reviewing the 70 best Clapton shows from all eras for my future blog. I will eventually upload all the shows getting the highest ratings (9 and 10) on Dime, unless they are on the tracker. This is the first of them. Also, I would like anyone upload good sounding shows (from aud4/sbd4 up) of the following 1989 and 1990 4 piece shows 1990 USA tour 1991 4 piece and orchestra 1992 any shows My review: Derek & The Dominos 10 16 1970 Electric Factory Frisco Sound: 7-8 Performance: 10 HP: everything LP: none The second performance we have from October (none from September survived, it seems) and the first one in The US. Rather short 7 track set, but probably the best live performance of the band in existence, and also the rarest set list of the existing recordings. It opens with a rousing electric version of Ramblin’ on my mind, done in the Dust my broom vein, with fabulous slide work from Eric – subtlety and finesse in the phrases never shown before and rarely since (influence of Duane shines through). Why does love got to be so sad is the best version ever recorded, with strong enough vocals, tight backing, a mesmerizingly fluid fast lead and the slow part, punctuated by Whitlock’s organ features some of Eric’s most lyrical playing. Blues power is also one of the best versions ever, as not only the rhytm section sets a perfect groove and Eric plays two great long solos (first one using the wah wah), but Whitlock unleashes catchy and powerful organ swirls throughout the track, that elevate it to another level. The intensity is present until the track segues into a relaxed intro solo of Have you ever loved a woman. Clapton’s guitar has an unusual echoey overdrive to it and he plays long, sustained lines that show his unique style of playing developed of the relaxed vibe of B.B. King and muscular attack of his namesake Freddy. His leads are punctuated by the boogiesque, bouncy bass of Carl Radle, steady drumming by Jim Gordon and propulsive piano by Whitlock. Clapton’s vocals leave a lot to be desired, though, even if they are secondary to other elements here. An electrified version of his duet with Duane, Mean old world follows. The band is in a steady shuffle mode, while Clapton alternates between high slide notes a la Duane and his own lower bassy ones he did in the studio. His solos are positively soaring and his ragged, somewhat strained vocals fit the song perfectly. Next comes another slide guitar number, a raw version of Motherless children, done in a very similar arrangement to the 1974 studio and live version. The vocals are low in the mix, especially with respect to Clapton’s chords and the bass. As was the case with Ramblin’, this is the only known version done by the band. Even the “Tulsa Band”, Eric recorded it with in 1974 has performed it only scarcely, for some of the 1975 shows. The concert concludes with a long, 17 minute version of Let it rain. Clapton’s vocals sound low in the mix and distorted, with Whitlock’s organ playing (he’s great on this one) too upfront. Clapton performs a great, six minute long guitar solo featuring even the famous Duane trills from the slow part of Why does love got to be sad studio version, while Carl Radle plays some great basslines. An obligatory Jim Gordon solo is followed by the chorus and a short Clapton break, concluding the great concert. Easily in my top 10 of Clapton shows ever.
Erick (2/3) FLAC / 1 View  
zosa (2/4.9) FLAC / 0 View   AUD?>??>FLAC
Greg Peters (2/5) cdr / 1 View  
Private Stock (2/5) / 1 View  
Notes: Average quality AUD recording. This show is 'different' than most Domino shows, unfortunately the sound quality won't let you fully enjoy it.
Supratik Chaudhuri (2/0) / 0 View  
Lello (2/5) Cd Flac / 1 View  
Judd Yeager (2/5) cdr / 1 View  
AAA Audio (2/4.7) flac / 1 View