Grateful Dead 08/27/1972
Old Renaissance Faire Grounds, Veneta, OR
Source Summary
SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> DAT@44.1K> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; Banter between songs from the two-track master reels: S:MR> DAT> SS> CD> EAC> SHN; dankseed
SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> DAT@44.1K> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; Banter between songs from the two-track master reels: S:MR> DAT> SS> CD> EAC> SHN; dankseed
Other Sources
SHNID 152 SBD MR> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN; via S. Kaplan, G....
SHNID 2199 SBD Master Betty reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD >...
SHNID 3328 SBD-> two-track MR-> DAT-> Sonic Solutions->...
SHNID 4682 SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> DAT@44.1K> DAT>...
SHNID 8045 SBD > 4-TRACK RTR @ 7.5 i.p.s. > PCM> (PCM) > D...
SHNID 21619 Bertha Remaster of the Braverman/Dank 16 track...
The newest and greatest version (ha),
seeded 10/7/01. This seed combines the 16-track master reel
(so-called "dank") source with the between-song banter that was
edited out of it. The splices should be, with one or two exceptions,
inaudible. Full text file to follow.
pb (braverman@earthlink.net)
Banter between songs from the two-track master reels:
S:MR> DAT> SS> CD> EAC> SHN
Here's the dank text file:
Grateful Dead
August 27, 1972
Old Renaissance Faire Grounds
Veneta, OR
Benefit for Springfield Creamery
Disc 1 47:55
-Set I-
1. Promised Land 03:06
2. Sugaree 07:13
3. Me & My Uncle 03:04
4. Deal 04:41
5. Black Throated Wind 06:31
6. China Cat Sunflower> 07:56
7. I Know You Rider 06:02
8. Mexicali Blues 03:35
9. Bertha 05:44
Disc 2 50:18
-Set II-
1. Playin 18:40
2. He's Gone 08:49
3. Jack Straw 04:59
4. Bird Song 12:19
5. Greatest Story 05:33
Disc 3 65:57
-Set III-
1. Dark Star> 31:26
2. El Paso 04:39
3. Sing Me Back Home 10:29
4. Sugar Magnolia 08:33
5. E1: Casey Jones 06:08
6. E2: Saturday Night 04:41
Source:
SBD>16 Track Master Reels>DAT@44.1K>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN
DAT>WAV via Sony SDT-9000 DDS drive using VDAT 0.6f
(see error logs below)
WAV was edited in Soundforge 4.0 (crossfading of reel cuts between
songs, no music was disturbed except for Sugar Magnolia)
WAV>SHN via CDWAV 1.53>MKW 0.97b
The songs from the reels were originally edited down to DAT very
tightly, almost no banter is present in this version.
Known Flaws: the first few notes of Sugar Magnolia were missing
and were patched in from the circulating Gans CD source.
The following spots were edited using pencil tool in Soundforge
(small bits of analog static removed):
d1t1, 2:18 - left channel click - smoothed, still slightly audible
d1t1, 2:20-2:23 - left channel static - smoothed, still slightly
audible
d1t06, 2:12 - pop - fixed
d2t01, 14:28 - right channel crackle - fixed
d2t05, 3:37 - right channel click - fixed
d2t05, 4:13 right channel click - fixed
d2t05, 04:18 - right channel static - smoothed, still audible
d2t05, 04:45 - right channel static - fixed
d2t05, 04:00-05:00 - some other static, smoothed, but still audible
d2t05, 5:05 - right channel click- still slightly audible
d3t01, 0:28 - two right channel clicks - fixed
d3t01, 0:38 - right channel click - fixed
d3t01, 8:06, 8:11 - right channel crackles - fixed
d3t01, 26:29 - right channel click - fixed
There are a few other minor analog anomalies that were left alone:
d1t01, 2:02 click in right channel
d1t01, 2:26 slight pop
d1t07, 3:48 click
d2t01, 6:00 faint click
d2t04, 10:12 pop
d2t05, 3:36 click
d2t05, 3:42 click
d3t01, 28:24 click
d3t04, 5:10-7:50 intermittent analog buzzing in right channel
There's probably some more to be found, however, all are quite minor
Reel>DAT transfer by Dick Latvala
DAT clone supplied by Rob Eaton, 6/2001
DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch, 6/2001
------------------------
DAT transfer error logs:
------------------------
each of the two source dats were extracted twice and compared using EAC's wav compare feature
DAT1:
wav 1: 117 missing samples 0:27:21.540
wav 2: 0:00:00.003 longer
(wav 2 used for this shn archive, extraneous samples at 27:21.540 deleted, not audible)
DAT2:
wav 1: 363 missing samples 0:58:45.741
wav 2: 363 missing samples 0:30:15.591
(wav 1 used for this shn archive, questionable spot at 58:45 was checked, no audible errors exist)
-----------------------
____________________________________________________________________________
*Dankseed Certification received 01-07-03*
and posted at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dankseeds/files/gd72-08-27/
Listening test performed by *5* danksters
positive criteria met:
Tracking- OK
Seamless and complete- OK
Lineage listed- OK
negative criteria met:
DAE- NO
Resampled- NO
Diginoise- NO
seeded 10/7/01. This seed combines the 16-track master reel
(so-called "dank") source with the between-song banter that was
edited out of it. The splices should be, with one or two exceptions,
inaudible. Full text file to follow.
pb (braverman@earthlink.net)
Banter between songs from the two-track master reels:
S:MR> DAT> SS> CD> EAC> SHN
Here's the dank text file:
Grateful Dead
August 27, 1972
Old Renaissance Faire Grounds
Veneta, OR
Benefit for Springfield Creamery
Disc 1 47:55
-Set I-
1. Promised Land 03:06
2. Sugaree 07:13
3. Me & My Uncle 03:04
4. Deal 04:41
5. Black Throated Wind 06:31
6. China Cat Sunflower> 07:56
7. I Know You Rider 06:02
8. Mexicali Blues 03:35
9. Bertha 05:44
Disc 2 50:18
-Set II-
1. Playin 18:40
2. He's Gone 08:49
3. Jack Straw 04:59
4. Bird Song 12:19
5. Greatest Story 05:33
Disc 3 65:57
-Set III-
1. Dark Star> 31:26
2. El Paso 04:39
3. Sing Me Back Home 10:29
4. Sugar Magnolia 08:33
5. E1: Casey Jones 06:08
6. E2: Saturday Night 04:41
Source:
SBD>16 Track Master Reels>DAT@44.1K>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN
DAT>WAV via Sony SDT-9000 DDS drive using VDAT 0.6f
(see error logs below)
WAV was edited in Soundforge 4.0 (crossfading of reel cuts between
songs, no music was disturbed except for Sugar Magnolia)
WAV>SHN via CDWAV 1.53>MKW 0.97b
The songs from the reels were originally edited down to DAT very
tightly, almost no banter is present in this version.
Known Flaws: the first few notes of Sugar Magnolia were missing
and were patched in from the circulating Gans CD source.
The following spots were edited using pencil tool in Soundforge
(small bits of analog static removed):
d1t1, 2:18 - left channel click - smoothed, still slightly audible
d1t1, 2:20-2:23 - left channel static - smoothed, still slightly
audible
d1t06, 2:12 - pop - fixed
d2t01, 14:28 - right channel crackle - fixed
d2t05, 3:37 - right channel click - fixed
d2t05, 4:13 right channel click - fixed
d2t05, 04:18 - right channel static - smoothed, still audible
d2t05, 04:45 - right channel static - fixed
d2t05, 04:00-05:00 - some other static, smoothed, but still audible
d2t05, 5:05 - right channel click- still slightly audible
d3t01, 0:28 - two right channel clicks - fixed
d3t01, 0:38 - right channel click - fixed
d3t01, 8:06, 8:11 - right channel crackles - fixed
d3t01, 26:29 - right channel click - fixed
There are a few other minor analog anomalies that were left alone:
d1t01, 2:02 click in right channel
d1t01, 2:26 slight pop
d1t07, 3:48 click
d2t01, 6:00 faint click
d2t04, 10:12 pop
d2t05, 3:36 click
d2t05, 3:42 click
d3t01, 28:24 click
d3t04, 5:10-7:50 intermittent analog buzzing in right channel
There's probably some more to be found, however, all are quite minor
Reel>DAT transfer by Dick Latvala
DAT clone supplied by Rob Eaton, 6/2001
DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch, 6/2001
------------------------
DAT transfer error logs:
------------------------
each of the two source dats were extracted twice and compared using EAC's wav compare feature
DAT1:
wav 1: 117 missing samples 0:27:21.540
wav 2: 0:00:00.003 longer
(wav 2 used for this shn archive, extraneous samples at 27:21.540 deleted, not audible)
DAT2:
wav 1: 363 missing samples 0:58:45.741
wav 2: 363 missing samples 0:30:15.591
(wav 1 used for this shn archive, questionable spot at 58:45 was checked, no audible errors exist)
-----------------------
____________________________________________________________________________
*Dankseed Certification received 01-07-03*
and posted at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dankseeds/files/gd72-08-27/
Listening test performed by *5* danksters
positive criteria met:
Tracking- OK
Seamless and complete- OK
Lineage listed- OK
negative criteria met:
DAE- NO
Resampled- NO
Diginoise- NO
Comments
Other Sources (comments)
SBD MR> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN;... (6)
SBD Master Betty reel > PCM... (3)
SBD-> two-track MR-> DAT->... (1)
SBD> 16 Track Master Reels>... (16)
SBD > 4-TRACK RTR @ 7.5... (14)
Bertha Remaster of the... (12)
SBD MR> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN;... (6)
SBD Master Betty reel > PCM... (3)
SBD-> two-track MR-> DAT->... (1)
SBD> 16 Track Master Reels>... (16)
SBD > 4-TRACK RTR @ 7.5... (14)
Bertha Remaster of the... (12)
Date: 05/07/2003
User:
Chuck Frolio
Almost every track has sector boundary errors.
Date: 01/13/2004
User:
Adam O.
The newly seeded "Bertha" remaster of this source has no sector boundary errors.
Date: 12/11/2004
User:
uh_clem
A shntool-fixed FLAC version is now in circulation with the following fingerprint:
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gd72-08-27d3t05-fixed.flac:ae41f996d328b29539ddf04fd260906c
gd72-08-27d3t06-fixed.flac:4e52c8b5e6d1f6ae1b047ba8895710f4
Date: 12/21/2004
User:
Diana
I've just added in the ffp for the straight fix to the existing record- thanks!
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